lance201 Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 (edited) Review about the VZ-61 Scorpion AEP from JG, 0451A a good copy of the TM Real steel: CZ VZ61 Skorpion, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0korpion_vz._61" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0korpion_vz._61 </a> Manufacturer: Jing Gong/Golden Eagle Importer: AirsoftHQ Weight: 1130 gr. (measured by myself) Length: 268 mm, or 522mm with unfolded stock Type: AEP HopUp / BAX: HopUp adjustable Material: Grip and upper are made from plastic, lower, stock, sights and triggerguard are made from steel, outer is potmetal Magazine: HighCap metal about 80BBs capacity Range: ? Power: 270 FPS Sonstiges: gibt’s auch von WELL, nennt sich da R2 Bought at AirsoftHQ Price: 59 Euro Author: Lance The pictures are far from good because of the low light (where is the summer?), but waiting for good light would put the review to eternity… -------------------------------- Package and content: The Package is a good copy of the original TM-VZ61 package, with the cheap styrofoam covered with cardboard and the „accessories“ in an extra cardboardbox. Inside the box are the AEP with one magazine, cheap plastic rail-adapter, silencer-adapter, small tool for the sight and changing the barrel, battery and a funny loader, some cheap BBS and the manual in English and Chinese. Edited June 25, 2009 by lance201 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lance201 Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Handling: The Operation of the AEP is very easy and with the unfolded stock it is possible to aim through the sights easily. Once you understand the mechanism of the stock, it is folded and unfolded very easily but if you make a small faught the effect could be bad… but more to this later. Folded, the small steelframes from the stock weree holded by the guard of the frontsight The firemode selector is on the left side above the grip and is smooth to use, There isn't a real „click" at the right position, but it is good enough. . The batterycompartment is in the grip and works well enough. Playing arround with the scorpion is much fun and you will get a small picture why the real steel Scorpion is so succesfull. The magazine the VZ61 comes with, is a sheetmetal made highcap. It fits well in the magwell, with a little movement only to the left side.Loading BBs in the mag is a little bit difficult, because the opening is in the front of the mag and very small. I bought two additional mags made fort he Well R2. One plasticmade Drummag and another normal one. The normal one is 100% identical to the original one. The drummag sits much more tight in the magwell and is operated by turning the front knop. It feeds also very well and gives you the right amount of BBs J. The package of the normal one is funny, end you can't see that it should be made by Well either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lance201 Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 The additional magzines: No differences between the two mags.: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lance201 Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 The sights are very simple but effectiv, both are adujstable, the front with the tool that comes within the package and the rear has to different sights, one rinted on it.. You can reach the hopup turning wheel by pulling back the bolt lever, and it works ok enough, I have read that the one from the Well R2 wouldn’t work, but this is not the case here. The firemode selection lever sits above the grip on the left side and works also as the safety. 0 is safe, 1 semi and 20 fullauto. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lance201 Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 The only eyes to fix a singlepoint sling are on the cover of the batterycompm of the grip. But you can't fix a sling there really, because the eyes are to small and the whole weight of the gun at the two small lips of the cover… no chance. So if you want to fix a sling or a lanyard at the VZ61 you have to create an idea of your own. Here you cann see the mechanism that will lock the stock To unlock you have to press the fluted part of the stockholder. Than one part in the mechanism will be disengaged Wile unfolding you have to keep the pressure a little bit otherwise you will break the holding! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lance201 Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Externals: On the first look the VZ61 looks great fort he price. Even the upper receiver plastic lokks ver good and matches perfectly with the steelmade lower. But the potmetal-holder of the grip sucks. Mine broke after the second attempt to fold the stock! Maybe it was only my personal faught, but the force I used was low. If you want to use the AEP for skirming you should wrappe two steel rings around the holding, I will search for some rings in my DIY-market. I fixed the broken part with superclue.. the looks are bad, but it works so far. I put a magnet at the parts of the gun, which are made from steel in my opinion Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lance201 Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 The knops used for the magrelease and the boltlever have a ver good “used-touch”. The outerbarrel is fluted inside so that you can remove him with the tool. It is an -14mm CCW thread. You can put on the sileceradapter afterwards easily The mechanism that holds the batterycompartementcover in place isn#t one of the sturdiest, but if you don’t fix a sling at it it will last.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lance201 Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Included accessories: Battery: The 7,2 Volt 500 mAh battery is a usual suspect. It works, but the poweradapter is a funny thing, I don’t know any European powerou can plug these ugly part in J ---------------------------------- Markings: Nada, but this is much better than bad ones. ---------------------------------- Performing: Between 260 and 275 FPS, haven’t measured the ROF, but I think it isn’t the highest…It is accurate enough like all my other china clone AEPs that I own from Cyma and DE. ---------------------------------- Conclusion: If you want an alternative fort he normal AEPS ort he MP7, than this is the right choice, cheap and stury with the execption of the stockholder, but I think rhis is easy to fix with to steelrings. I do not own the Well R2 but I think that there are no big differences between them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lance201 Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Some more pictures with diffrent configurations and some filtering:: Pro: - cheap - powerfull for an AEP - only one weak point - very nice looks contra: - imho only the weak point in the stockholder Additional accessories: The Mags for he Well R2, silencers and muzzlebreaks on the adpater, original holsters and magpouches and a lot of things that you can put at the rail. Notes: At the usual german, austran or polish sellers the JG VZ61 is sold out, only the Well R2 is available.. __________________ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Talon Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 That is a great review, I have been searching for a decent review for the Jing Gong Skorpion for a while now and this is by far the best i've come across, well done. Keep us posted if you decide to attempt a take down or add upgrades. Cheers, - Talon - Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lance201 Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 thank you very much... I did it out of the train... not so easy with splitting and UMTS only. Lance Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SSG69Pro Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 (edited) Nice Review and nice pics, perhaps you can tell us the ROF with the 7,2V accu somewhen Edit: and a very nice translation from the former german version into this english one, lance! Edited June 25, 2009 by SSG69Pro Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bersy Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Great review! got a JG one on its way to me soon does anyone know what hopup rubber these use? How did you find the hopup on yours? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lance201 Posted June 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 hi, I didn't open it, but the hopup works for me, like the hopups in the other AEPs. Lance Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marlowe Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Excellent review! I think I may invest in one of these as a sidearm for my RS SVD if I can't source a Maruzen GBB variant in HK. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bersy Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Got mine and i'm very pleased with it, havent skirmished yet tho but i'm thinking of getting a KM 45 rubber sometime as the stock rubber are normally quite poor. Hopefully i'll have my TM battery and 2x JG 90rds mags for my next shoot! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fenris357 Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 very usefull review thanks fella! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KMFDM Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Unless a GBB clone comes soon I might just get one of these (= Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L85FREAK Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Any skirmish reports with this gun? Or did I miss it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lance201 Posted July 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Any skirmish reports with this gun? Or did I miss it? Not yet, you have to wait until I have the next change to play with the little thing. Lance Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L85FREAK Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 How much range does it have? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maverick343432 Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 (edited) Is there any noticeable differences between the WELL version and the JG? Thinking about picking up a WELL VZ61 to replace my aging MP5K. Edited July 24, 2009 by maverick343432 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Typewriter Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Wich one do you guys recommend, the JG or the Well? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gisburn20 Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 a word of warning on the hop. As usual with a chinese gun the hop rubber is coated in gunk, but worse than that , the hop dial has a small lug inside to stop you turning the hop dial too far "Off", BUT, if you turn it too far "on" it can ride over the ramp that applies pressure to the nub and you cant turn the hop back on because of the lug! Fortunately this AEP is very very easy to takedown ( loosen grub screw on takedown pin , remove pin and slide upper receiver off , hop falls into your hand) and you can strip out the hop dial (and remove the lug if you want) and reset it. I think this is responsible for the myth that this gun has no hop! Jim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lance201 Posted August 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 Wich one do you guys recommend, the JG or the Well? I have seen the Well R2 at a friend now and I couldn't see any big differences at the first view. Also his gun came with the normal and the drummag for the same price as mine with only the normal magazine. And I really have no probs with the hops, but I use this AEP only under 15 meters distance. Lance Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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