cfg123 Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 I saw that last night, pretty cool. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hispeed1 Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 (edited) I saw that last night, pretty cool. Â I liek the Block 2 M4 CQBR's they showed. Seeing new footage is great-but I wasn't happy with it, wasn't too positive. Nice to see some old woodland. When will we see some AOR2. Edited February 1, 2010 by Hispeed1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeuteGegangen Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 I liek the Block 2 M4 CQBR's they showed. Seeing new footage is great-but I wasn't happy with it, wasn't too positive. Nice to see some old woodland. When will we see some AOR2. Â I think the navy called a pretty heavy 'dibs' on that one hispeed. Soldier Systems had an article about it and how they wanted to brand it like USMC had done with their new patterns. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
navymp28 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 yeah your not gonna see AOR per sey being in use by non NSW cats often if at all. And for the record it is NWU Type 3 now not AOR2 ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fatal Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Seeing new footage is great-but I wasn't happy with it, wasn't too positive. Â When is someone getting shot ever positive, it's War. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hispeed1 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 (edited) Thanks for the AOR2/NWU T3 info guise. I thought AOR1/2 was all of USSOCOM. I guess we'll keep seeing more US SF in woodland, 3-color desert, Multicam & ACU then. Â @ Fatal: oh you know what I mean! Lol! I was also hoping for more cool-guy action footage, gear, etc. Her old report on some SEAL's was a little better. Edited February 2, 2010 by Hispeed1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azulsky Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 When is someone getting shot ever positive, it's War. Â Well its just the fact that they chose to focus alot of their little air time on shortcoming and pitfalls of the training program instead of something a bit more uplifting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
reaper16 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Well its just the fact that they chose to focus alot of their little air time on shortcoming and pitfalls of the training program instead of something a bit more uplifting. Â Â Well maybe thats a good thing, take note of the mistakes as to fix them eh? Ever heard the old saying those who do not learn from their mistakes are doomed to repeat them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azulsky Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Yes im sure 60 minutes is qualified to correct Green Berets on their indig training./sarcasm  Im just saying you think the little snippet of time that the soldiers get some air time it could be about progess not about isolated incidents  When we resurrect John Wayne, we'll get him to clear up all this with a sequel to The Green Berets Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sierra hotel Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 I'm going to have to agree with Azulsky. The reporter stated that they spent 2 months embedded with this unit. Firstly I don't know how editing and cutting all that footage down to a 10-15 minute story paints a realistic picture of what is going on over there. Furthermore it's a shame they focused on the negative aspects of their time with them, I'm sure there had to be more than a few success stories during that period as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atomicaardvark Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 The Quiet Professionals from 60 Minutes last night with Lara Logan I watched this last night and was a little disappointed with this latest offering from 60 Minutes. As has already been mentioned - 2 months spent with the ODA and all they get is a sub-20 minute piece! The SEAL one was more interesting. That said, it was good to see the FID mission in a little more detail; made a nice change from the boots on the ground engaging an unseen enemy pieces that usually air. Until The Quiet Professionals, the FID mission was generally being overlooked by the media and as this is part of the justification behind the surge (get more troops on the ground training the ANSF) 60 Minutes at least did something new in focusing on this; albeit the piece was too short IMO and therefore could not give the topic the coverage and importance that it deserves. Â Some interesting footage nonetheless of the ODA training and in the field with the Afghan Commandos... liking the M81 woodland loadouts - might have to mod my shirt and rock this next time I play! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fatal Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 (edited) Well its just the fact that they chose to focus alot of their little air time on shortcoming and pitfalls of the training program instead of something a bit more uplifting.  2 Months isn't a very long time, it isn't pitfalls in training, it's what is going on real-time. I can remember being on numurous patrols with IA and IP's where they discharged their weapons when they shouldn't. It happens a lot and needs to be seen that these soldiers need help in training.  Yes im sure 60 minutes is qualified to correct Green Berets on their indig training./sarcasm Im just saying you think the little snippet of time that the soldiers get some air time it could be about progess not about isolated incidents  When we resurrect John Wayne, we'll get him to clear up all this with a sequel to The Green Berets  They are, they are civilians and tax payers, which is who the US Military works for, so yes, they are more then allowed to questioning their work, but it doesn't mean they are right, or wrong. To me the whole video was on progress, you don't think that shooting those 2 kids has any effect on progress? Showing how those soldiers don't know proper weapons handling skills after their initial training? Instead of checking out the gear you should maybe actually watch and listen to the video it goes over quite a bit. These incidents aren't isolated at all, these are everyday things going on overseas.  I'm going to have to agree with Azulsky. The reporter stated that they spent 2 months embedded with this unit. Firstly I don't know how editing and cutting all that footage down to a 10-15 minute story paints a realistic picture of what is going on over there. Furthermore it's a shame they focused on the negative aspects of their time with them, I'm sure there had to be more than a few success stories during that period as well.  I would much rather have the truth then some buttered up fairytale. What do you expect to happen in 2 months? Not everyday is a patrol where something happens, there are off days, missions the reporters aren't allowed to go on, training the Afghan's and other stuff that goes on. Again, the point of the story was to inform you what is going on, not a Hollywood mock up of super heros. Edited February 3, 2010 by Fatal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticMag Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 +1 to Fatal. It was a good piece. My classmate liked it, if that tells you anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThaFlash Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Whatever it is, it's quite awesome and I can't wait to not pay $800 for a set. Well, I can wait, but I really want a set of AOR2/digi3/NWU Type III Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hispeed1 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 2 Months isn't a very long time, it isn't pitfalls in training, it's what is going on real-time. I can remember being on numurous patrols with IA and IP's where they discharged their weapons when they shouldn't. It happens a lot and needs to be seen that these soldiers need help in training. They are, they are civilians and tax payers, which is who the US Military works for, so yes, they are more then allowed to questioning their work, but it doesn't mean they are right, or wrong. To me the whole video was on progress, you don't think that shooting those 2 kids has any effect on progress? Showing how those soldiers don't know proper weapons handling skills after their initial training? Instead of checking out the gear you should maybe actually watch and listen to the video it goes over quite a bit. These incidents aren't isolated at all, these are everyday things going on overseas. I would much rather have the truth then some buttered up fairytale. What do you expect to happen in 2 months? Not everyday is a patrol where something happens, there are off days, missions the reporters aren't allowed to go on, training the Afghan's and other stuff that goes on. Again, the point of the story was to inform you what is going on, not a Hollywood mock up of super heros. Â Very true. Point taken. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
navymp28 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 CAG Kit ver 1.0: Â Â Â and the CAG MRE (My prefference version) final: Â Â Uniform for this is a set of M81 woodlands modded, Custom OP Top (combat shirt) and Modded trousers pockets shifted for useing Drop legs and knee pads. Shock cord in ankles. Â Still trying to sort out an ANVIS mount but I am not sure if I really want to screw with that or not. I have a MICH 2000 for this kit and still need to get a good idea of what it still needs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
swiftsilentdeadly Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Â Â MRE party Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barcelona Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Custom OP Top (combat shirt) and Modded trousers pockets shifted for useing Drop legs and knee pads. Shock cord in ankles. Â Link? Or do you make them yourself? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
navymp28 Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 @barcelona it was made here locally. It was a first gen and I am looking to get a fifth gen they are makeing now. It is something that was being made for the teams by a local tailor and thet are always doing different stuff to make them better. I can post pics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt. Kinnaird Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Navymp, how do you have those under the cummerbund shingles configured on the RAV? How did you get them to attach over the velcro part of the RAV? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
navymp28 Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Navymp, how do you have those under the cummerbund shingles configured on the RAV? How did you get them to attach over the velcro part of the RAV? Â Those are LBT shingles and have hook on the back and loop on the front. I just slapped them onto the loop where the cumberbund velcros down and then slapped the cumberbund onto the fron of the pouches. Easy day really. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steinbruchsoldat Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 ... Modded trousers pockets shifted for useing Drop legs and knee pads. Shock cord in ankles. Â Could you get a few pics of that? Maybe in the custom gear thread? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CoolHeart_ASN Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 mrk & mysl1 I hate you for your guns dudes! haha!! Â This 1911 + SF 610r rocks! Is the SFA 1911 L.A Vickers Custom from WA? Â And for the DOAV party.. OMG!! Â Well, I'm finishing my CAG loadout, so in a very few time I could show you something, hahaha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrk Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Thanks CoolHeart! The 1911 is TM with NOVA Vickers body kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CoolHeart_ASN Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 Hmmm... a cheaper choice than the WA model and it's full metal! Â Now all the "cagnatics" should make a photoop together, hahaha! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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