Ivan le Fou Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 Well it changed since the pic what taken. The M972 has been removed, so has the offset dot, dueck defense sights have replaced the Troys. So: King Arms Larue 12". AAC SPR + silencer. VFC extrem bipod. Larue SPR1.5 scope mount. Leupold M3 with Buttler Creek covers. Dueck Defense offsets sights. PTS UBR with 0.7 butt pad. PTS MOE grip. Troy panels. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
god84 Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 Ivan thats a nice build, i quite like the m16 length barrel with that stock, Nice work!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Noveske Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 Oops, since my post was interpreted as a hate post and deleted, I'll re-post my pic -VFC SR16E3 IWS AEG $460 -KAC URX3 $300 -KAC URX3 Handstop $58 -KAC URX3 Panel Set $41 -KAC 300M Flip BUIS $166 -Crusader 14.5" Midlength Barrel $33 -Dytac KAC Gasblock $25 -KM 6.04 Inner Barrel $60 -Magpul CTR $80 -Magpul Enhanced Buttpad $20 -Magpul PTS MIAD $50 -Surefire Scout M600C $300 -Surefire SR07 Tapeswitch $80 -Larue Offset Scout Mount $107 -G&P DBAL A2 (IR Version) $163 -Aimpoint T1 Micro $650 -KAC Micro Battery Cover $38 -KAC Micro Mount $156 -Magpul PTS TMAG $19 -PVS 14 Pinnacle $3500 -Larue PVS Mount $189 -Internals, AWS Raptor, Motor $200 Hmm.. not sure if I missed something... but yeah $6695 ($3006 if you don't include the PVS14 and mount, but hey, everyone seems to be including optics and what not) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kagami Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 lol, when the optic costs more than the entire gun setup. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 58 USD for a freakin hand stop??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Noveske Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 58 USD for a freakin hand stop??? I know huh! That's KAC for ya! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kagami Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 tbh the K9 is the same price and arguably comes with less stuff, at least the KAC comes with a QD swivel which is at least 20-25 dollars. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PianoBlack Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 $20-25 for a QD swivel? Try $12.50 for a MI one or $14.50 for a VLTOR one. -Piano Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kagami Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 Hm, my mistake KAC lists them for 18. either way, the KAC handstop is a machined aluminum piece. There's cheaper options but the KAC feels the best for me, I don't especially like the LaRue or even the new Magpul one which was kind of a disappointment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Noveske Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 The KAC URX3 handstop, however is machined Delrin.. LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
08kecarv Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 The KAC URX3 handstop, however is machined Delrin.. LOL LOL, a.k.a. unobtanium Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kagami Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 lol really? i see urx 3/lw handstops everywhere, no one gets them lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 I never understand KAC's prices....their BUIS are super expensive compare to other RS(ie Troy) items.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawaiianjuggernaut Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 I haz triple membership Polarstars make getting into this club too easy. lolz. Gun: "Kiersten" G&P VLTOR Upper G&P VLTOR Lower PTS UBR stock PTS motor grip (even though there isnt a motor...) Madbull Troy Extreme battle rail. Madbull blackside silencer Madbull Hopup Madbull barrel EPAR Engine Upgraded 200psi solenoids 551 sight For this one: I am not exactly sure if Ive spent over 1k on it, but its pretty darn close: "Grace" TM M4 base G&P Zombie Lower G&P VLTOR Upper PTS UBR PTS Motor grip Matrix SPR kit Element Blackwater Silencer 551 sight +Internal 500fps@20rps pimpage "Wendy" TM G3 BaseCA Metal Body CA RIS CA Outer barrel Extension TM G3 scope mount NCstar illuminated 2-7 scope PDI barrel Prommy Hopup bucking Internally is where most the money is. Shooting 600 with .2s @ 15rps on a medium sized 11.1. New GB shell, G&P m180 motor, sorboed+ all the goodies. Max range is like 300-330. It shoots so hot, its only legal at 1 certain field, for certain events. -Hawaiian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kunlun Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 I'm in love with Wendy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3vi1-D4n Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Just asking out of curiousity, what are your motivation to spend $3000-6000 on a WA AR15? On a real steel I would understand to a degree but even with my AR15 (which has its own collection of SBR/LBR uppers, tactical kit, optics, and rails for each of the uppers), it is still not as expensive as those AR15s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawaiianjuggernaut Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 I'm in love with Wendy Bwahaha. me too. Its so much fun picking people off from 250+feet. They have no idea where shots come from, and there is still a good amount of juice behind the .4s she lobs -Hawaiian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3vi1-D4n Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 its called an i.w.s mount fella. i got it from a mate who gets a few bits now and then. plus what make m240 have you got?, because if its the inokatsu 1 then the mount will need some modding to fit. this is due to the four screws not quite lining up, so you have to file the holes on the mount for the holes to line up. not sure if they fit on the other brand m240's as for the flash hider, the inokatsu ones are as rare as the real thing. so you may be looking a while unfortunatly mate. i must admit i was tempted on putting a hutu on mine, but i just prefered to spray into an area and wait for the screams Gotcha, well we never got the memo. We called it the C2 sight mount (dovetail mount), and I have only ever used the C2 sights on the L16 81mm mortars. I have the Inokatsu aluminium version (it was advertised as the steel version). HUTUs are great. Good for directing fire at night, though the GPMG does out range my other support weapons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darkmikey22 Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) Gotcha, well we never got the memo. We called it the C2 sight mount (dovetail mount), and I have only ever used the C2 sights on the L16 81mm mortars. I have the Inokatsu aluminium version (it was advertised as the steel version). HUTUs are great. Good for directing fire at night, though the GPMG does out range my other support weapons. i was told the mount can take both C2 and i.w.s stuff. but you are right it is a C2 mount. really? where did you get it from?. yea mine out ranges most too. but i have been playing about with a psg1 tightbore barrel on .25's. yes the range is a bit shorter but it is so accurate that each round follows right behind each other. but i dont like that, i much prefer to lay rounds down into a beaten zone and cover a whole bunker or postion with rounds, not just 1 person and use it how a proper support weapon should be. Edited March 7, 2013 by Darkmikey22 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3vi1-D4n Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) I got my Inokatsu from Poweredge Hawaii in 2010. Helpful guys particularly when I was purchasing from non-US. Though they didn't really examine the gun before listing it, they just copied inokatsu's "steel and nylon" product pamphlet description when most of it was aluminium (except for a few bits like the bipod, rear sights and barrel trunnion). It was only 7.5kg on empty. I did put more weights on as a GPMG needs to feel like a GPMG. At 10kg loaded it does feel a bit better but still not GPMG weight. I use .25gs and was hitting out to a 80m range, point of aim, at cardboard targets. Though at that range I doubt people feel it. Its firing at 490fps on 0.2g with an M150 spring, madbull 650mm barrel and VFC GBB hop rubber, which seems to be the only combination that works without massive airloss. Given its a VERY LONG barrel on a standard cylinder 490fps is pretty good As far the the whole beaten zone thing, as most of the time we used it its at guys from 50-100m so the distribution of fire is pretty longitudinally spread at that range, particularly if I arc it. Lateral spread you adjust by pivoting anyways as the ranges we tend to engage at is so close. But TBH I feel its better accurate than not, having had a number of inaccurate CA249s, it feels better knowing where the rounds will hit where I aim, rather than 2nd guessing and wasting ammo. I am digressing, more pictures will follow of my collection *Ah I googled, the IWS is the individual weapons sight, as we don't often use the term IWS. Our GPMGs here have both the C2 sight mount AND the 20mm top cover rails. Edited March 7, 2013 by 3vi1-D4n Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawaiianjuggernaut Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 I got my Inokatsu from Poweredge Hawaii in 2010. Helpful guys particularly when I was purchasing from non-US. Though they didn't really examine the gun before listing it, they just copied inokatsu's "steel and nylon" product pamphlet description when most of it was aluminium (except for a few bits like the bipod, rear sights and barrel trunnion). It was only 7.5kg on empty. I did put more weights on as a GPMG needs to feel like a GPMG. At 10kg loaded it does feel a bit better but still not GPMG weight. I use .25gs and was hitting out to a 80m range, point of aim, at cardboard targets. Though at that range I doubt people feel it. Its firing at 490fps on 0.2g with an M150 spring, madbull 650mm barrel and VFC GBB hop rubber, which seems to be the only combination that works without massive airloss. Given its a VERY LONG barrel on a standard cylinder 490fps is pretty good As far the the whole beaten zone thing, as most of the time we used it its at guys from 50-100m so the distribution of fire is pretty longitudinally spread at that range, particularly if I arc it. Lateral spread you adjust by pivoting anyways as the ranges we tend to engage at is so close. But TBH I feel its better accurate than not, having had a number of inaccurate CA249s, it feels better knowing where the rounds will hit where I aim, rather than 2nd guessing and wasting ammo. I am digressing, more pictures will follow of my collection *Ah I googled, the IWS is the individual weapons sight, as we don't often use the term IWS. Our GPMGs here have both the C2 sight mount AND the 20mm top cover rails. They still have a Inakatsu M249 there at Poweredge. ~$2400 give or take last i checked Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3vi1-D4n Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Is it the steel version or the aluminium version I wonder? Poweredge stopped accepting online orders now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawaiianjuggernaut Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Is it the steel version or the aluminium version I wonder? Poweredge stopped accepting online orders now? You could try calling them and asking. I didnt know until now they have different models. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Desert.Express Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) Just asking out of curiousity, what are your motivation to spend $3000-6000 on a WA AR15? On a real steel I would understand to a degree but even with my AR15 (which has its own collection of SBR/LBR uppers, tactical kit, optics, and rails for each of the uppers), it is still not as expensive as those AR15s. Boredom and/or loads of money to throw away,I guess Edited March 10, 2013 by Desert.Express Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Noveske Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Boredom and/or loads of money to throw away,I guess I second that. To each his/her own (way of spending $) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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