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I see guys thanks for the info , but I still don´t understand which is the function of the charging handle lock.But Horsem4n if you recommend me not to use it I won´t use it xD.Thanks man!

 

Vercingetorix can you give me a link or pm me? I´m very interested in what you are to talking about but are you sure about compatibilities?

 

Thanks

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if you fire the gun without the lock, the charging handle may move and when the bolt returns forward and hits the charging handle, it will break the charging handle.

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CountFloyd: Dont worry you dont need a whole new charging handle, just the latch which is the bit thats broken. This was something that seemed to be pretty common in going on the first versions, newer ones should come with a steel one. I think AB sell the steel one seperately too for not much.

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WETTI , very interesting new parts !

 

I'm very interested in the new bolt locks as that will certainly eliminate the wear and tear as much as possible.

 

Also very interested in new recievers etc .

 

Let this be known as the "summer of WE"

 

Gaz

 

 

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I see guys thanks for the info , but I still don´t understand which is the function of the charging handle lock.But Horsem4n if you recommend me not to use it I won´t use it xD.Thanks man!

 

Vercingetorix can you give me a link or pm me? I´m very interested in what you are to talking about but are you sure about compatibilities?

 

Thanks

This page: http://www.skdtac.com/index.asp?PageAction...mp;Category=204

 

Dunno if they fit, but I'd think they would, or at least could be minimaly modded with say a drill or dremel to fit at the most.

 

I am pretty sure you can fit em to AEGs, and I am almost positive they fit as drop ins for PTWs and WAs

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Shown are prototypes, all tested on my personal weapon yesterday during skirmish. Works great without any issues all day. The bolt catch is particularly sweet!! Well..... everything's VERY sweet ... & I ain't giving these back!!!

 

T.S. Custom is now a WETTI-approved 3rd-party custom manufacturer of after-market improvement parts for WE's products.

 

OK, here's what T.S. Custom will be releasing very shortly (starting next week ):

 

(1) Steel hammer + steel disconnector set

(2) Steel match triggers (in 2-3 different styles)

(3) Anti-rotation pins (2 types) - these actually work to prevent the trigger set front pin from loosening due to vibration. A must-have item!!

(4) Steel ambidextrous safety - just lovely!!

(5) Trigger guards (2-3 styles) - drop in replacement, very comfy!!

(6) Totally-redesigned bolt catch for the magazine (drop-in replacement) - we're especially excited about this!! This thing assures 100% bolt lock after last round by providing a 'flat' , larger contact surface with the bolt, thus eliminating the chance of any wear on both contact areas. These will come in 3-packs & will costs less than USD10.00/pack

(7) Selected copies of the counter-weighted M4 spring guides (2 versions) - these will 'increase' as well as 'solidify' the recoil feeling of the gun. Depending on the power level of your gun, one of these versions will give optimized result.

(8) Custom lower receivers in different markings (either laser or engraved) - all anodized finished. Rumored designated markings incl. "DD", "MK18 Mod0", "Stag Arms", etc... (feel free to give suggestions here, people )

(9) CNC upper & lower receivers set(s) in T-7075 aircraft-grade aluminum - No speculations here, but I'm getting serial # 0001 on the style I want. I'll leave this as a VERY, VERY pleasant surprise to everyone later on!

 

http://g.imagehost.org/0685/temp_11.jpg

 

http://g.imagehost.org/0924/temp_10.jpg

 

http://g.imagehost.org/0678/temp_9.jpg

 

http://g.imagehost.org/0069/temp_8.jpg

 

http://f.imagehost.org/0103/temp_7.jpg

 

http://g.imagehost.org/0822/temp_1.jpg

 

http://g.imagehost.org/0509/temp_1.jpg

 

Wetti also for number#8: a lower with Bushmaster markings would be nice!(could it be possible to get personalisable serial numbers on the receivers?)

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Wow, those aftermarket parts truly make the WA versus WE debate even more interesting. I was about to commit to a G&P WAM4 given the wobble fix and the new PGC mags, but this changes things entirely.

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Wow, those aftermarket parts truly make the WA versus WE debate even more interesting. I was about to commit to a G&P WAM4 given the wobble fix and the new PGC mags, but this changes things entirely.

 

This is only the beginning! ;)

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@Horsem4n: Thanks for the info mate , now i´m pretty sure I will not use it.

 

@MarkSCU: Also thanks a lot for the info Mark will contact AB, even if I got to buy a new charging handle it´s not too much money, but got a problem I can´t go through shipping services because it puts me 1 error found, I think I´m not the only one with this problem.

 

@Vercingetorix: Nice items!!! thanks and they are very cheap now if someone knows about compatibility.

 

WETTI as you are from WE brand in my opinion you should give some advice and support for this problem that as they have said it´s not only mine.

 

Best regards guys.

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Hey guys, there seems to be some minor reoccuring problems that some of the rifles have:

 

charging handle

o-rings

hop-up

etc.

 

Since airsoftbuddy carries a list of spare parts,

 

which parts would you guys recommend I pick up as an "in case it breaks" scenario?

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@Horsem4n: Thanks for the info mate , now i´m pretty sure I will not use it.

 

I was able to use mine for a long time by stretching a rubber band over the back of the handle and over the front of the upper receiver. I should for the most part prevent the charging handle from moving back on its own while the bolt is cycling.

 

which parts would you guys recommend I pick up as an "in case it breaks" scenario?

 

 

Part #42 is basically a drop-in fit in most cases. Getting to the stock part is pretty easy, but you're probably going to need a pair of vise grips and needle nose pliers. It should bring your muzzle velocity down substantially if your WE is shooting 400+ FPS, and it's the only thing to reduce FPS as far as I know.

 

If you're bolt catch isn't steel, you're going to want a new one of those as well. Besides that you should be fine for a long while. You may want to get a few replacement o-rings (part #122), but if you polish the opening of the BB cylinder and keep the nozzle assembly tight and straight you should be okay without. Look here for a great sum-up of this thread.

 

;)

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^ Hi Chris

 

To answer your question about the small bb for the hop....

 

I always dreaded being in the shoes you are now - trying to come up with another bb that will work.

 

First, if you indeed lost it,....William sells the replacement part on his AB site as MANY people have lost it swapping out their barrels.

 

If I had to "make do" with something around the house? I would take apart the smallest sealed bearing I could find - rollerblade or smaller. Sealed or not. Just cannibalize the bb's inside.

 

The inner ball bearings have to be ridiculously tiny.

 

It will suck not having the original to compare to, but you will see the hole drilled in the inner barrel - test fit there. Again its SMALL.

 

As for the last page and a Bike Shop product called "Krytek" or something like that, it is likely the same as many of the bike shop lubes. It contains >some< Krytox but very little - since it is soooooo expensive in pure form.

 

Im sure it will work fine. As will any good lube applied there (op rod).

 

The Krytox is a bit overkill, but I use it because it has outstanding cold temp performance. It just laughs at the frosted inners of the WE when it cools way down.

 

WETTI

Dont tease with those photos - get them to market FAST! :P

Im still astonished why the aftermarket isnt all over this opportunity of making/selling upgraded parts.

 

And to all the "quitters" who sold their WE M4's, what a shame. Hang in there, anybody struggling with bugs.... this gun will be a world beater by summer.

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NO update yet as of now; but the factory ppl are indeed working on it. One good news: I've already gotten inquiry by several barrel makers to start making afrer-market 'ultra precision' barrels for our new hop-up system. One of them is EDgi :)

 

EdGI does make pretty decent barrels, hopefully you'll allow him to sell it independently as well. These are the things i need to be able to use this on the field

 

1. Power Down kits to make it shoot around 400fps

2. 50 rounders or higher cap mags

3. New hop chamber

 

Although I think I have to wait until june-july before i'll ever use this in an actual game..

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I was able to use mine for a long time by stretching a rubber band over the back of the handle and over the front of the upper receiver. I should for the most part prevent the charging handle from moving back on its own while the bolt is cycling.

 

Looks like a temporal solution , thanks for the info! any pic there?

 

Regards

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WETTI: Earlier AR15-era bodies and conversion kits would be very welcome as well as pre-made Vietnam War-era XM177E1 and M16A1 rifles (a lot of airsoft re-enactors like myself would love to have these guns). PGC is supposed to manufacture 20-round sized magazines as well as 30 round mags (that hold 50 bb's) and they would be appropriate for the era.

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WETTI: Earlier AR15-era bodies and conversion kits would be very welcome as well as pre-made Vietnam War-era XM177E1 and M16A1 rifles (a lot of airsoft re-enactors like myself would love to have these guns). PGC is supposed to manufacture 20-round sized magazines as well as 30 round mags (that hold 50 bb's) and they would be appropriate for the era.

 

Amen !

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Diemaco L119A1 SFW kits or ready-made carbiens would make just about one out of three UK kitter cream their pants. The rest would be had if you could make a GBB L85A2, but that market is probably saturated at the moment with the AEGs.

 

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Thanks WETTI, I'll try mailing Socom Gear.

 

Sweet news on that new bho lever. And about the lever, mine seems to have killed itself while I was overly fascinated about its function, and no more than a day old to boot. I found that the lever engaged against the bolt with such little area that both surfaces eventually became rounded and would slip, failing to catch on empty unless I physically pull the lever outwards. The parts are small so my camera wouldn't help, though I did sketch up almost exactly how little the two parts met. Was wondering if this part failure happened to anyone else.

 

N4bolt.jpg

 

The area shaded in red is only about 1.5~2 square mm. I've already gone and fixed this by welding the lever and building it up so that a whole lot more material would come into contact. Its working great for now, but I'd still buy that aftermarket lever to be sure.

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Diemaco L119A1 SFW kits or ready-made carbiens would make just about one out of three UK kitter cream their pants. The rest would be had if you could make a GBB L85A2, but that market is probably saturated at the moment with the AEGs.

 

I would have said 1 in 2...

 

HK416/417 would be nice but for now it's the MP5 that has my attension.

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Hey 1st commando, you were right about the D-boys ris. Fits nice and tight. Is it normal to have a loose wobble to the front section? More noticable a "rotation wobble"..especialy with a forward grip.

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