Carsten Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Also, I think this may have been answered but is the flash hider 14mm+ meaning I can pop on any G&P compatible flash hider? yep, I have my old phantom flash hider on it that was on my old G&P M4 However, he did say that when we order extra magazines from him that he would include the WE produced steel bolt catch for free for those who have bought the pre-steel-bolt-catch version. great! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davedawg123 Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Did he give an ETA on the steel bolt stops? And are any other upgrades planned on the newer versions? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 I can't really tell whether or not the bolt catch is made of steel, but Airsoft Buddy said mine wasn't. He said WE was still producing the steel ones to be put into newer guns. However, he did say that when we order extra magazines from him that he would include the WE produced steel bolt catch for free for those who have bought the pre-steel-bolt-catch Now THAT is what I call excellent customer service and product support. Well done AirsoftBuddy and WE !!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ianhaz Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 14mm+ threads? Damn it my SFW barrel extension is 14mm- Its not gonna stop me buying one and figuring a way around this small setback mind Quote Link to post Share on other sites
db_pepsi Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 14mm+ threads? Damn it my SFW barrel extension is 14mm- Its not gonna stop me buying one and figuring a way around this small setback mind theres always that - to + adaptor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 (edited) anybody want to guess how long its going to take them to make the SCAR? the only thing holding me back from buying the M4 is the fact that its an M4... Edited November 22, 2008 by Horsem4n Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ianhaz Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 theres always that - to + adaptor Wont that add length to the outer barrel though? Might make it look a little weird but sounds like its my only option Just wondering if anyone can confirm that the pistol grip of the WE is real spec? Im just wondering if the G&P storm grip for the WA will fit without extensive modding, as i hear the WA pistol grips are real spec. Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slu Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 (edited) Wont that add length to the outer barrel though? Might make it look a little weird but sounds like its my only option Just wondering if anyone can confirm that the pistol grip of the WE is real spec? Im just wondering if the G&P storm grip for the WA will fit without extensive modding, as i hear the WA pistol grips are real spec. Cheers Yeah adds about an inch. You guys have me sold, I may be getting one as soon as the steel bolt stops come in. Edited November 22, 2008 by slu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 (edited) no, it only adds a centimeter. if you order one now from airsoftbuddy, itle come with a steel bolt stop. the grip is real steel spec. the grips for real guns arent much more expencive than airsoft rifle grips. maybe around 5-10 bucks. Edited November 22, 2008 by Horsem4n Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davedawg123 Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 if you order one now from airsoftbuddy, itle come with a steel bolt stop. Are you sure? Just a few posts back, WE was supposedly still working on them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don_R_Luigi Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 hehe, a few years ago I posted about WE/Stti AEG M4 comming out for about $150 full metal this was the start of all the el cheepo AEGs comming out. I posted it on this forum, I found the news on some italian site. I hope the mark of this post means theres going to be some nice realistic rifle GBBs comming out, but also cheap ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slu Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 no, it only adds a centimeter. if you order one now from airsoftbuddy, itle come with a steel bolt stop. Where's this info from? Someone just posted that the steel bolt stops are still at the factory. Yeah its probably closer to a cm than an inch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ianhaz Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Cheers for the help guys, I think I can get away with a centimeter, and good to know the grips are real spec too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 If I get one of these, I want to attach a CQD style sling plate at the base of the stock pipe. Would a regular airsoft type (I'd be using a VFC) work or would I be better off getting a RS one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 If I get one of these, I want to attach a CQD style sling plate at the base of the stock pipe. Would a regular airsoft type (I'd be using a VFC) work or would I be better off getting a RS one? Airsoft sling plates will not work unless they are designed to work with RS styles buffer tubes (i.e. 99% of airsoft sling plates are not compatible). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lt.Fenix Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 (edited) "Dear Frank, I've jent a email to WE ans ask them about the coming package is it comes with the steel bolt catch after read your email. WE said that they still making the steel bolt catch, and will comes with the GBB M4 but not now. For those who ordered/purchased the WE GBB M4 before the steel bolt launch, we will ship together when they order the spare mags from us. So that means, if you place order for the WE GBB M4. Then you will get the steel bolt when you order the spare mags. Thanks William Airsoft Buddy" This is the email I received on Wednesday, so unless WE has started putting steel bolt catches in since then, I'd say Horsem4n is mistaken... unless Airsoft Buddy is, and I doubt the latter. Edited November 23, 2008 by Lt.Fenix Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John_234 Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 What I want next is a gas Sig rifle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lupus78 Posted November 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 (edited) However, he did say that when we order extra magazines from him that he would include the WE produced steel bolt catch for free for those who have bought the pre-steel-bolt-catch version. That is pure awesomeness. I'm happier every minute I've ordered the WE M4 from AB. And yes, I could also recommend this rifle to anyone interested. The build quality, power, accuracy and reliability are all equal (some even superior) to most AEG's in my opinion. Especially for it's price. And the shooting experience with it is something that even the PTW cannot match. Only thing AEG's are better for, is unrealistic and continuous spraying of huge amount of bb's. It is obvious you cannot use similar suppression fire with this carbine. And I think this is just a good thing. This rifle teaches more how to use a real carbine. More magazine changes and more cautious shots than just spraying where you think someone is. And I'm loving it every minute. Airsoft sling plates will not work unless they are designed to work with RS styles buffer tubes (i.e. 99% of airsoft sling plates are not compatible). Does anyone know if the plates designed for WA and PTW are compatible? I would also like to attach a one-point sling to the base of the tube. Edited November 23, 2008 by Lupus78 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elrey Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 if you order one now from airsoftbuddy, itle come with a steel bolt stop. Do you know this with 100% certainty? Edit: Whoops, should have finished reading the thread first. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Does anyone know if the plates designed for WA and PTW are compatible? I would also like to attach a one-point sling to the base of the tube. They should be compatible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Carsten Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 I've disassembled the gun and made some detail photos I'd like to share with you. The photos are (very) big and I hope there are some new details for you.. Firstly, I encountered "some" wear out within the mag well as you can see on 2 photos, while I've only shot about .. 200 - 300 rounds.. Can anybody check his rifle if there is wear out, too? Lupus, Jin15... etc? AirsoftBuddy, maybe you can send this to WE,.. ? It seems, that the inserted mag is "pressing" against the mag well and from the other side the mag release spring that is "rubbing" against it.. especially when releasing the mag you are manually "rubbing" that spring against it.. overview the WE sign on the front sight.. one of the few markings on the WE M4 the spring & buffer wich can be found in the buffer tube ( uh.. where else? ) markings on the top rail of the upper receiver the upper receiver, back.. seems to be very thick and stable thick bolt carrier.. seems to be very good material the bolt carrier half inserted function here is the hammer.. .. and thats how it works.. the hammer is .. hammering against this pin.. .. and on the other side, the pins releases the gas from the mag.. here you can already see the wear out I've stated above :/ here again, the wear out marked^^ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Carsten Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 bolt carrier bolt stop function the bolt stop itself here is the bolt stop function deactivated by the mag.. here, its activated now, the bolt will stop behind if the mag is empty now, it will not stop Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Carsten Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 disassembling the thread in front of the.. front sight. with the short inner barrel installed is that the place for the flash hider. the disassembled front sight.. 2 pins and a screw holding it in place.. G&P barrel nut and delta ring installed outer barrel disassembling hop up / inner barrel as previous stated, the inner barrel is whobbling a bit due to missing spacers.. so I put some tape around the inner barrel.. ..and it works the hop up hole at the back of the inner barrel the whole hop up unit.. .. and closer.. .. and disassembled.. as you can see on the right side, the hop up is pressed down by a ball bearing^^ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lt.Fenix Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Carsten, yes that "wear" is somewhat normal. I think I've even seen that on real AR's. Mine is like that too and I'm sure others' are also. It's not due to the magazine wearing the material out.. it's just that the way it was designed, only a very small amount of material was left so when the hole for the mag catch is machined, the wall thickness becomes so small that little amounts of it will break off as it is being cut. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Carsten Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 ok, thanks.. its not a problem at all cause its not interfering the function of the rifle I was just wondering that after 200 rounds the material will degrade so fast.. but the material is very thin on that place in deed.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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