somegirls Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 I just recieved my KWA MP7 GBB mit full licensed HK markings. Hefty, rock solid. The stock has minimal play, but nothing to worry about. The foregrip locks into position nicely, but has some minor play as well. Honestly I can't say much about since I recieved it an hour ago. So this is something like a first impression topic.. yet. More to come. All I can say is, it is loud. Really lound. And the bolt cycles sooo smooth, amazing. WE can learn alot from this weapon. So, here are some pics, enjoy! (Sling Mount on top not included) The charging handle feels kinda fragile. A glance at the hop up unit. Which is accessed through the Gaspiston outlet channel (or whatever it's called) using an included tool. Clever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
somegirls Posted July 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Typical KSC/KWA Blowback system. The magazine is well made, no leaks (Hello WE/WETTI. Take a look, it is possible) and no wobble in the mag well. But nothing is perfect. There are some unclear imprefections on the metalparts like the endplate and the rails. The metalparts are something like steelblue. Differs from the flat black body, but it looks nice. MORE TO COME! Oh yeah, price is 249,- € including a 40 round magazine. 20 round mags are coming up. (I'm neither a worker for KSC/KWA nor I'm a vendor. Just a happy customer and glad to see that there actually is a way to make a gbb "rifle" working out of the box and when it hits the market. Unlike my WE M4 which is still not working properly after 4 month and $ of upgrades) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwinTurboCH Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Where did you get this? I've been trying to find one since they were announced Looks awesone though Can't wait for a full review Quote Link to post Share on other sites
somegirls Posted July 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 (edited) It's available through several vendors in germany. www.kotte-zeller.de I got it from here. They were the first who released it. One thing right away: There is no easy way to field strip this. You need to remove the 2 rear pins, and even that isn't easy. THat's a definate con. Personally I like to lub every GBB before I use them for the first time and I clean them every time I used it. If you wanna quickly clean the barrel you have the stick the cleaning rod into the nozzle and than push it through which means you drag all the dirt and oil towards the hop up. And actually that's the last thing you wanna do. Later today I'll do some 5 meter shooting and give you some feedback on the accuracy. EDIT: I just hit the chrono with Abbey Predator and .2s at almost exactly 1jouel / 340FPS. It's nice and loud but the recoil is slim to none. My KSC Glock "kick" harder. But it still is a lot of fun. Edited July 22, 2009 by somegirls Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwinTurboCH Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Damn on two counts Firstly about how cheap it is in Germany and secondly at the fact i don't speak german. Thanks for the info though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spencerman Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 That looks great, I cant wait for mine to come fingers crossed!! The only thing that I can say that I really dont like is that stupid stamp on the back that says the trademarks are used under license by Umarex. Why did they have to spoil the lovely trademarks with that, bloody Umarex. Other than that, you are a jolly lucky fellow to have such a nice looking gun before everyone else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
somegirls Posted July 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Yeah that's true. I had the "licensed" Maruzen MP5k and all the markings were just terrible. a huge red HK logo on the magwell and the Umarex text was like 5 times as big as on the MP7. So I can deal with it. And it might be removable with acetonfree nailpolisher remover. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
somegirls Posted July 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 (edited) ok guys, first shootin. I went in the basement to first zero in my sights and then adjust my hop up. Distance was 7 meters and I used .25 KSC perfects. So, these were my pick up shots from which I wanted to adjust the iron sights. You be the judge. I just say it the way it is. KSC or KWA did to their guns before they left the factory what WE, my money and my time couldn't do in 3 month. Edited July 22, 2009 by somegirls Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwinTurboCH Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Sounds excellent, any chance you could grab me one and send it to the UK for me if i sent you cash? I'd love you forever. LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
somegirls Posted July 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 If you sent me the money in advance I could. Keep in mind that german guns are semi only!! Unfortunately I'll be on holyday from saturday for one week. you could try to reach kotte&zeller here: service@kotte-zeller.de They do ship to the UK for 10,-€ I'm sure they can send you an invoice in english. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wraithxt1 Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 How do you rate the report of it compared to a WE m4? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
somegirls Posted July 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Compare and old WE 1911 to a new KSC Glock. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rvp69 Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 (edited) sorry to hear your having probs with your we man,i have not as yet had any problems,but tbh my hfc mach11 gbb system is better than my we lol...i want one of these that you have,what online stores have them that you know of?( new zealand also does not allow auto ) Edited July 23, 2009 by rvp69 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KMFDM Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Hmm, the gas system in this thing, is it system 7 or just the system KSC used prior to system 7? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wege Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 rvp69 - check the link he provided... that is a location (in germany) for the KWA Mp7.. and it will be semi-only too.. as that is what Germany is allowed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
somegirls Posted July 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Hmm, the gas system in this thing, is it system 7 or just the system KSC used prior to system 7? System 7 or NS2 (for KWA) AFAIK. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 sounds promising....I hope the my pre-order from Tokyo Model moves ahead soon... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3vi1-D4n Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 (edited) Damn it, my wallet is burning... Now waiting for someone to start an "MP7 vs MP9" thread. I want the MP9 cos its shorter, but I want System 7, and the higher FPS from the MP7. I would like something accurate too so a comparison of MP7 vs MP9 accuracy at 5-10m would be good, and as well an FPS comparison. Edited July 23, 2009 by 3vi1-D4n Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 bolt catch works on this too? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
somegirls Posted July 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 bolt catch works on this too? Indeed, and it works every time. Strange is that you cannot lock the bolt back manually. So, you cannot pull the charing handle and than engage the bolt lock, you need to insert an empty magazine and than pull the charging handle back. I don't know who the real steel works though. So it might just be a good replica of the original MP7. Here some more picks of the markings: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
accuracy Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 very nice. thanks for the review. I wish someone would now come out with a new mp5 GBB. But don't worry. I'm in the same boat with you on the WE. But compared to what the WA users are going thru, i'm alright. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
somegirls Posted July 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 An update on the magazine: I just saw that there is a unique way they designed the magazine follower. Of course you can lock it down like on any other KWA/KSC weapon. The problem with that used to be that when you release the follower by pushing it down it would slam up against the magazine feeding lips what puts additional stress on the lips. On the MP7 KWA created a locking mechanism in the actual follow. There is a tiny button in the follower that pops out when you lock it down. So, when you push the button down your finger still makes contact with the follower and you can smoothly lead it towards the feeding lips. Very nice feature. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wege Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 how does this thing strip down? Are you able/willing to take pics of the internals at all? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3vi1-D4n Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Nice pics Somegirls, http://www.6millimeter.info/joomla/index.p...91&Itemid=1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
somegirls Posted July 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 how does this thing strip down? Are you able/willing to take pics of the internals at all? haven't done it yet, it's pretty complicated. Nice pics Somegirls, http://www.6millimeter.info/joomla/index.p...91&Itemid=1 yeah those are my pics. (Just in case you think I ripped them off) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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