AirSoftNJ Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Yay, at last. No good to me, as I'm more than happy with my 'customised', 200mm, 93 auto barrels. Greg. I have a EDGI 220mm 6.00 Tight Bore Barrel. Which I think Out Performs the 93 Autos by a Mile. PM me if your Intrested thanks for the input So does that mean i should still order the ksc taiwan version, rather than the new kwa taiwan version ? KSC and KWA Are Completely different comapnys. I love KSC more than KWA. The KSC seems to me to be a Little Better Quailty. There Taiwan Version is also called System 7 and FEATURES a 430 FPS Rocket Valve comapred to a 350 and the Taiwan Verison Had Heckler & Kotch and GMBH Trades and Cal 4.6 x 30 ///Comapred to Energy >1 Joule and Caliber 6mm and a Serial Number As far as I know, there is both a KSC Taiwan & KWA Taiwan. The function & design is the same. As usual, the KWA may suffer quality issues & is thus priced, suitably lower than the KSC. There may also be differences in trades. If trades don't matter & function is your only interest, the KWA, with a decent warranty, is probably the way to go. The warranty, would ensure decent support, should you get a dodgy one. Greg. Yes the Taiwan also has a Higher FPS. Yes The Gun Has No Umarex. The Body is the Japan Verison The Warranty is only 45 days and the Worst thing to happen is the Swelled Hop Up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 I have a EDGI 220mm 6.00 Tight Bore Barrel. Which I think Out Performs the 93 Autos by a Mile. PM me if your Intrested No need to keep it private when the whole forum can benefit from the information. Can you put a link to the supplier? How much did it cost? How long before delivery? When you say 'a mile', can you quantify, the difference in performance, compared to the stock 160mm barrel? Many thanks, Greg. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 (edited) oh double double double Edited March 12, 2010 by greg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 www.edgicustom-usa.com they have a list of pre made barrels you can email them and they will custom make you one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jotohomomoto Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 After the 45 day warranty if anything ever goes wrong that you can't handle, you can send it to KWAUSA in CA and they'll fix it for a flat rate of $35. Its good to know they got your back. On the other hand, I've heard KSC has a little better quality and the trades ARE more accurate. That being said, the build quality of KWA has been top notch in my opinion. I don't understand how KWA and KSC can be so "close" yet so "far away." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
galactica Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 KSC and KWA Are Completely different comapnys. I love KSC more than KWA. The KSC seems to me to be a Little Better Quailty. There Taiwan Version is also called System 7 and FEATURES a 430 FPS Rocket Valve comapred to a 350 and the Taiwan Verison Had Heckler & Kotch and GMBH Trades and Cal 4.6 x 30 ///Comapred to Energy >1 Joule and Caliber 6mm and a Serial Number They may be separate companies, technically, but the guns come off the same production line and are identical except for the trades and the power adjustment elements. I have a KSC Japan and a KWA USA. My KSC had different tolerances in the bolt manufacture than Greg's KSC did. There's no difference in the mouldings or the finish or the reliability. Greg did find my trigger pin had bent in the KWA, but that had had about ten times more use than the KSC which is my "for best" gun and has only recently been skirmishing since it got its tightbore. I fully expect the same thing to happen to the KSC when it gets as much use as the KWA did, though I am trying to be lighter on the trigger than I used to be. By the way, it seems that there are tolerance problems with the 20-rd mags from KWA. So...don't buy them yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AirSoftNJ Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 No need to keep it private when the whole forum can benefit from the information. Can you put a link to the supplier? Name's ED, Email and Ask for It edgi_langis@yahoo.com How much did it cost? 70 USD Shipped How long before delivery? 2 Days from Taiwan to US When you say 'a mile', can you quantify, the difference in performance, compared to the stock 160mm barrel? Reports Coming ASAP, I am currently on Vacation Many thanks, Greg. www.edgicustom-usa.com they have a list of pre made barrels you can email them and they will custom make you one Incorrect, Yes that is Possible but EDGI is a Privately Owned Company Under the Discreation of EDGI Langis..Like Dairy Queen and 7-11 They are Privately Owned and Operated but Report to the EDGI Custom Langis office So Baically Your Paying a another Shipping fee, Plus a Surcharge fee for EDGI USA to Make Money and Ship it to you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 (edited) So Baically Your Paying a another Shipping fee, Plus a Surcharge fee for EDGI USA to Make Money and Ship it to you then where did you get yours ASNJ ? I assumed you got your EDGI 220mm 6.00 Tight Bore Barrel from edgi ? What if i want two ? where can i get them ? Edited March 13, 2010 by Crimson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AirSoftNJ Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 In the Previous Post, You Have to Email ED at edgi_langis@yahoo.com Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Your previous post confused me ? Edgi dont do a 220mm 6.0 barrel ? http://www.edgicustom-usa.com/products.php So you do have a custom one then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AirSoftNJ Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 There is 2 EDGI's... One is US Based as Just a Reseller and Sells what Ed Ships them From Taiwan There are not Listed only Email Only Available, THIS IS THE REAL EDGI.....http://edgicustom.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jotohomomoto Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 How long is the tightbore? The one on KWA is 160mm but the measurements say that the inner barrel is 220mm. Check it: http://store.kwausa.com/edgi601mminnerbarrel395mm-2-1-1.aspx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Guys gonna order some custom made Mp7 pouches in sexycam each pouch holds 6 mags : If your in the uk and want in let me know Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AirSoftNJ Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 I think I asked this....but what BB's Are you Guys Using .28's or .25's Quote Link to post Share on other sites
galactica Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 .25s mostly, as tracer is not really available heavier. I might use .30s in the summer outdoors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 i only use guarder super polish .28s in Gbbs they cost a lot but are worth it, i know charlie and greg are using them in their mp7s Plan to use them in mine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 (edited) There is 2 EDGI's... One is US Based as Just a Reseller and Sells what Ed Ships them From Taiwan There are not Listed only Email Only Available, THIS IS THE REAL EDGI.....http://edgicustom.blogspot.com/ Many thanks for your info, I look forward to the rest. Was the 220mm that you have a 'one off'. If so, would you happen to know if he would do a 300mm? I'm currently using Guarder ,28 hpms but am considering going with SGM .29's. Greg. Edited March 14, 2010 by greg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Greg- i already asked him they are made to what ever you want I am planing on ordering one from him for my mp7, let me know if you want in Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Greg- i already asked him they are made to what ever you want I am planing on ordering one from him for my mp7, let me know if you want in Yes please. If you are making enquiries can you see how much it will be for a 300x6.01mm? Greg. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
galactica Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 300! he's going for 500fps! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 sure thing will let you know when i get a reply lol 500 fps you get that with an npas and your mags on the heater lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 (edited) 300! he's going for 500fps! I am indeed. With the 200mm tn & cnc rocket valve, the KSC Japan (300 out of the box), has seen 410 @ 19 degrees C. I suspect the same set up would produce more with your KWA. The 230x6.03mm adapted lalax barrel got this to 430. The extra length equates to roughly 1fps/mm, so a 300mm barrel should get her into the 500fps sniper league. I may even have to chop it back a bit. If anyone out there has experience of this, I'd love you to chip in & let me know if I am barking up the right tree, or just barking mad. A 150mm silencer, should shroud the barrel nicely & result in a loverly compact semi auto sniperer. Ultimately, I'd be happy with it running a little under 500, to cater for temperature increase & shot to shot inconsistency. It will be interesting what groups can be achieved with this sort of set up. The hop is pretty stable with .4's, so I'm looking forward to a fun summer. Greg. Edited March 15, 2010 by greg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 yeah tonys silenced TM m92 with a custom 6.04, i think was around 25cm was pushing 450 fps, he then used co2 mags and got around 550fps Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AirSoftNJ Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 I am indeed. With the 200mm tn & cnc rocket valve, the KSC Japan (300 out of the box), has seen 410 @ 19 degrees C. I suspect the same set up would produce more with your KWA. The 230x6.03mm adapted lalax barrel got this to 430. The extra length equates to roughly 1fps/mm, so a 300mm barrel should get her into the 500fps sniper league. I may even have to chop it back a bit. If anyone out there has experience of this, I'd love you to chip in & let me know if I am barking up the right tree, or just barking mad. A 150mm silencer, should shroud the barrel nicely & result in a loverly compact semi auto sniperer. Ultimately, I'd be happy with it running a little under 500, to cater for temperature increase & shot to shot inconsistency. It will be interesting what groups can be achieved with this sort of set up. The hop is pretty stable with .4's, so I'm looking forward to a fun summer. Greg. With .25 G's and a SD Rocket Valve and My 220mm EDGI. With a Warm Mags (IE Under Arm Pit) No Water. I was near 500. Around 490-501 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 (edited) Just got a reply from edgi, greg check our team section for info Edited March 16, 2010 by Crimson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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