gunnermaniac Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 Cheers for the heads up, I'll drop him a pm now. T_hum does not see it as a practical project due the costs(understandable). It seems as if there simply isn't the demand for the mags and the platform does have a fairly small customer base so I don't see this happening sadly unless someone with ability is willing to take a risk. If there is significant support/interest for co2 mags drop me a pm or something and we will get some sort of petition going in attempt to convince a manufacturer however I can't see much support for it even though the appeal for co2 is so great to me and others I know. Any other ideas for getting some made? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
t_hum Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 Ill go ahead and chime in here publicly as well. Like I mentioned to Gunner, the cost of developing the GG mag is plenty high and it is certainly the most demanded style. It also happens to be a little less expensive to manufacture and test. I have a hard time justifying the added cost of then doing a co2 revision for a considerably smaller market which will also cost more. Ive had a few people asking me to do a limited run or a custom run of these with the expectations that theyd be affordable. The sad reality is these are expensive things to make even in bulk. Additionally, in order to cover my behind and protect my family, I simply wont make a magazine without having it properly tested to insure safety. Its a pressurized vessel. It will require proper testing. This may be disappointing to some. Sorry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chochla Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 I have been waiting/hoping for the release of co2 mags You dream of CO2 mags. I dream of GG mags. I ordered them on Friday. WGC delayed quotation of one day and guess what? Remark says: back-order. The same applies to guns. CQB version had 'in stock' status only one day longer. They products are going like hot cakes but KJW obviously does not see it. I truly do not understand this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ahadsz Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 Co2 mags, when do they release, and I cant find the kjw m4 anywhere either it stinks... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunnermaniac Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 Co2 mags, when do they release, and I cant find the kjw m4 anywhere either it stinks... As noted above, it doesn't look like they will be made let alone released by manufacturers. Looks like it's going to have to be propane adapter and velocity reducers for me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
suicidalsnowman Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 Propane ain't so bad, some people at my old local now associate the smell of propane with being shot in the back seconds later Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weekenny Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 I'd go Co2 if they did them. Mind you I need to go KJW in the first place Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ahadsz Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 (edited) I need co2 mags, for an all winter season, forget that smell its the performance and how it affects me in my opinion. Is there any good gun with co2 mags, we isnt too great and inokatsu is expensive.. Edited September 1, 2010 by ahadsz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kai_Wolf Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 Anyone get the plastic upper yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lupus78 Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 Personally I prefer regular gas mags for their ease of use. Yes, I think CO2 mags are pain in the *albatross*. I just hate screwing the endcaps, replenishing a new capsule and then screwing the cap back on. So much easier just to to top up the mags with GG when I reload, and after that in the game I don't have to worry if there's enough gas in the capsule left. If there's bb's, theres gas too (thanks to the reliable KJ mags). I carry enough mags (six of them) with me, plus a pistol with a couple of mags. So it has to be a really long game when that's not enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weekenny Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 CQB model ordered and t-hum PM'd soon I'll be back in the land of GBBR's Been through this thread a couple of times and have picked up a load of handy tips - Cheers all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
suicidalsnowman Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 Congratulations, welcome to a world or more fun and reloads in a firefight than you though possible Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weekenny Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 Cheers buddy, looking forward to it. Not my first GBBR but hopefully this one will last longer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew12 Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 I'll chime in here. T_hum mentioned a few pages back he knew someone who was in the process of producing some Co2 mags. That would be me! I am planning on getting together with T_hum soon to bump some ideas around and a possible collaboration. I Am actually good friends with Raven_1 who pointed me to the KJ platform some time back. Over the last few months I have been developing both a GG and co2 version of STANAG and PMAG's. Without going too far into details, they will be similar in design to most after market WA type mags. The differences will be that the materials are much better and much more refined, and hopefully I will keep the price point below $50/mag. Any questions feel free to ask. I am quite busy lately so I may not respond to a PM or thread quickly But I'll do my best to answer any questions. As far as my testing goes, since receiving my 'testing' gun on the 24th of august, I have put about 1500 rounds through it with no serious problems. Only some chipping on the piston cup. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
suicidalsnowman Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 So the CO2 mags don't require any internal reinforcement? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunnermaniac Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 I'll chime in here. T_hum mentioned a few pages back he knew someone who was in the process of producing some Co2 mags. That would be me! I am planning on getting together with T_hum soon to bump some ideas around and a possible collaboration. I Am actually good friends with Raven_1 who pointed me to the KJ platform some time back. Over the last few months I have been developing both a GG and co2 version of STANAG and PMAG's. Without going too far into details, they will be similar in design to most after market WA type mags. The differences will be that the materials are much better and much more refined, and hopefully I will keep the price point below $50/mag. Any questions feel free to ask. I am quite busy lately so I may not respond to a PM or thread quickly But I'll do my best to answer any questions. As far as my testing goes, since receiving my 'testing' gun on the 24th of august, I have put about 1500 rounds through it with no serious problems. Only some chipping on the piston cup. Uploaded with ImageShack.us This is awesome. Please keep us updated on the progress of them, especially for that price I would be interested in buying lots How will you be selling them? Through PM's on forums? Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew12 Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 Uploaded with ImageShack.us This is awesome. Please keep us updated on the progress of them, especially for that price I would be interested in buying lots How will you be selling them? Through PM's on forums? Cheers I will. There will be some prototypes in the next 60 days. It just takes time and money, two things I don't have a lot of these days. I'll be selling them through my existing E-commerce site in a special section : Southwest Defense So the CO2 mags don't require any internal reinforcement? they will be adjustable in pressure for different climates. However, I will recommend T_Hum's upcoming bolt and a few small items that will be beneficial for long term durability. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nickthebrick65 Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 My buffer tube, not the stock but the actual tube, has a slight wobble up and down. Is this normal? If it isn't how do I go about fixing this and/or tightening it? Thanks! - Nick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sacairsoftsn00py Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Remove the retractable stock. Loosen the 1.5mm hex screw. Remove the buffer tube's end cap. Slide off the buffer tube. Tighten the brass tube. Slide in the buffer tube. Install and tighten the buffer tube's end cap. Tighten the 1.5mm hex screw. Install the retractable stock. This should fix your wobble. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew12 Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Use a butter knife to crank down the end cap on the buffer tube when you are done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrTreble Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 A drop of locktite helps too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nickthebrick65 Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Thanks guys, will do that in the morning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
niust Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 problem ..i just got the gun last week.. yah! then,. after the a few mags shot.. the mag outflow valve rubber was out it place .. so all gas just PUF...gas all gone at once,..n i have to fix it... then during the game.. I manage to broke 2 more mags..same problem. i just used green gas on semi... temp here in bangkok 32c or 90f.. humidity 80% .. was this a common problem for any of u ... or i just got lemon mags.. ?? can any one give me an idea how to prevent this... did i just filled the mag too much green gas.. how about normal gas? cheers guys since nobody know about the problem.... i ordered 5 mags... and every out flow valves rubber have problem... after 30 rounds... every mag got this problem.. i have to order key valve and readjust o-ring .. and greased it up... now the problem is gone.. look like the o-ring were too loose in my all magazines... I think i will use standard gas now... P Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weekenny Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 So the CO2 mags don't require any internal reinforcement? I wouldn't have thought so. I have Co2 mags for my WE M9 and on green gas mags it does 310fps on Co2 mags it is around 340fps. So it is only a little more powerful but much more consistent. I dunno how WE managed to screw up the M4 Co2 mags as there pistol ones are great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jotohomomoto Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 forgive me if this has already been answered but, the only difference between the kjw m4a1 and cqb is the RIS? I'm really tempted to get one of these b/c of its high skirmishability factor!!!! No mags availible!! bummer. I may just get one and wait (like I did with the kwa mp7!!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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