Azulsky Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 All the condom carrying water stuff is BS. Try it then come post about it. It fails Link to post Share on other sites
mattmanic Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 All the condom carrying water stuff is BS. Try it then come post about it. It fails You could probably carry that if you only filled it 1 third up or it might be useful if you needed to store water in your house incase the water supply became irradiated or something. Link to post Share on other sites
Azulsky Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Well yeah if you have a faucet.....but as has been done since the invention of Bathtubs, when the hurricane comes you just fill the whole tub with water to drink and use the facilities. Link to post Share on other sites
sgt.kicker Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Gah, now I wanna make a kit. There are a bunch of military surplus stores nearby, so I'm gonna buy some stuff for a kit that can be used at home and on the road. There are four humans, two cats, and two cars under our roof. What I've thought of so far: -flashlight x2 -extra AAA, AA, C, and D batteries -extra flashlight bulbs -swiss army knife -water purification tablets -water bottles x5 -$100 cash -MRE x5 -chemlight x5 -lighter -waterproof matches -first aid kit -non-perishable cat food -scissors -duct tape -regular blanket -compass -super glue -aspirin -those heat-keeping blankets (?) x6 -extra duffel bag -gasoline (in a safe container elsewhere in case we need to go) -cat carrier (in case we need to go) I didn't include stuff like extra clothes because that can be grabbed on the fly... Anything I should add/get rid of? Link to post Share on other sites
babybackribs Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Anything I should get rid of? The cats. Link to post Share on other sites
Chimpy Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 In all seriousness, the SAS survival guide should be a packed in every "bug-out" bag. Quite possibly one of the better publications i've read. The Collins Gem version of that and Food for Free are awesome. Great fun for taking out on walks to fiddle about in the undergrowth when you stop for lunch. Living in a city my survival kit consists of a wallet with cash and cards, mobile phone and keys to my house. My concession to 'stuff' is a Inova microlight and USB key with my important personal docs encrypted on it. Link to post Share on other sites
Robinio Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 I just don't understand the ammo? Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 And people say that if you are into guns (Be it imitation real, what ever) that we are all a bunch of guys hoping for the end of days. I mean where would they get that idea from. Link to post Share on other sites
mattmanic Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 The cats. But you need to keep them alive incase the food runs out. Link to post Share on other sites
phaserrifle Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 I've come across the principle of escape and evade bags before, although I know them as BOBs (Bug Out Bags) I don't currently have one, but I'm reckoning I will have a perminent one set up once I start driving (incase of being stuck in snow ect) but I do currently (till the end of the summer holidays) have my BOJ (Bug Out Jacket) set up for a spesific scenario, being that the my explorer leader is going to call us with about 10 minuits notice, appear at our door, get the permission to camp forms filled, and then dump us at the local scout campsite with whatever we are stood up in (no bags, no webbing!). so I filled a jacket with useful stuff: 1x leatherman multi-tool 1x 44 pattern metal mug 1x 500g bag of rice 1x brew kit (instant coffee. sugar, hot chocolate mix) 1x packet of instant soup 1x bottle of tobasco sauce 1x bar of kendal mint cake 1x survival bag (a bag which keeps you warm) 1x poncho/tarp 1x roll of assorted cord/bungee 1x mini-first aid kit 1x small torch 1x survival tin (mainly containing fire lighting gear) obviously this is set up for a scenario where I can be sure of certain things (plenty of water, no need to navigate, no need to signal help, and help on hand in the event of serious injury) Link to post Share on other sites
Robinio Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Why that, Ill just go with a can opener and beans! Link to post Share on other sites
babybackribs Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 But you need to keep them alive incase the food runs out. No you don't. Ever heard of the Donner Party? Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 I've been long pondering a bug-out bag. And the main reason I would get one is fire. In case the apartment catches fire, in case I'm up at my parents' cabin and a forest fire breaks out, &c. Of course, earthquakes are another real possibility (I'm sure we've had at least a dozen today, not that I could actually feel any of them). For the time being, my hunting pack is working as a sort of ersatz BOB. Because I live close to my family and I know they have lots of food, I don't worry much about food. Further, my parents live on a well, not on city sewage, so as long as the power holds we have clean water. Mostly, my BOB consists of fire starting essentials, a Nalgene bottle (in which the fire starting bits rest), and a hunting IFAK and trauma kit. I also have not an insignificant amount of rope and para-cord in the kit, my shemagh, Leatherman, boo-boo kit, softshell, sweater, boonie hat, my 16-ga, my AR, my Glock 34, extra ammo (shotshells, 5.56mm, 9mm), unloaded magazines, &c. &c. &c. If something happens that's sizable enough to warrant my needing to get the hell out of Dodge, I have two primary escape routes planned. Both take me far from civilization and plant me in the midst of nature's (and cattle's) bounty. And one has a snow-fed artificial lake (created by a dam) literally about 100 feet away. So water and food are no problem, so long as I can make it out of town. Regardless, I haven't been particularly serious about the need for such a kit and, as a result, it isn't really well thought out, well laid out, or particularly well-planned. Hopefully, since I won't be big game hunting this year, I can get that adjusted. EDIT: A wee list of everything. Constructive criticism encouraged: Fire starter: -Blast match -Dryer lint -Water proof container (Nalgene bottle) -Waterproof matches Hydration and food: -3L CamelBak -USGI canteen with canteen cup -Whatever can be found -Water purifier Navigation: -State maps (Montana, Idaho, Wyoming), city map, region-specific topo maps -Compass Comms: -Cell phone -Emergency whistle -Signaling mirror Clothing (in addition to on-my-back): -Sweater -Soft shell -Poncho -Boonie hat -Watch cap -Three changes of t-shirts and underwear -Additional pair of trousers -Three pair socks Misc.: -SureFire E2D-LED -Large pack of SureFire CR123 batteries -Shemagh -Parang -Leatherman -Utility knife -Folding knife -Cash money, a couple hundred dollars, in $20 bills -Basic gun cleaning kit, including bore snakes and gun goup. -Important documents (DL, CCW permit, insurance card(s), &c.) Firearms: -G34 (in pack or holster); three loaded magazines, three unloaded (in pack) -M6A1 (in Sneaky Bag or openly); two loaded magazines, four unloaded (in pack) -1622 (in a take-down soft case) Ammunition: -100 rounds 9mm NATO (plus ammunition in loaded magazines) -200 rounds 5.56mm NATO (plus ammunition in loaded magazines) -50 rounds 16-gauge The BOB in question would be a large duffel, containing a large back pack with most of the aforementioned items in it. This would supplement the items I keep in my car (truck rifle, additional ammunition, blankets, roadside emergency kit, snow shovel, tire chains, binos, &c.). Link to post Share on other sites
Dan_Breen Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Until you've actually been in a car that's physically incapable of dealing with dodgy weather you really won't understand just how helpless a driver can be. This is where I feel lucky - I have a Land Rover so have yet to encounter this kind of weather. In terms of grab bags, I keep a box in the landy with this stuff: 2 x 1.5 ltr bottles of water pack of cereal bars Sleeping bag breakdown kit First aid kit Webbing strops + tow rope Waterproof jacket Just common sense really. Link to post Share on other sites
Chimpy Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 I guess the only things you could add to that would be a fire extinguisher and rescue tool type jobby. A shovel is handy in the snow as digging out is no fun without one. I do a fair amount of winter driving into the Highlands to go skiing and numpties are everywhere getting stuck and crashing. People really tend to underestimate how dodgy it can be especially as you get higher up. Link to post Share on other sites
The End Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 get this- http://www.mossberg.com/products/default.a...ection=products Link to post Share on other sites
scorch Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 I really like the idea, unfortunately the image is tainted for me by the types of people who would be sure to pack their tinfoil helmet first. And I really don't fancy being one of those. Link to post Share on other sites
Scuffer Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 I really like the idea, unfortunately the image is tainted for me by the types of people who would be sure to pack their tinfoil helmet first. And I really don't fancy being one of those. Quoted for truth and comedy reasons. Just common sense really. Yup. Think we have to draw the line somewhere between having a few useful items to hand and preparing for Z-Day. Just look at past events/disasters etc and think what would realistically have been useful in those situations. For all of the disasters in the western world the government of the country has always put on some kind of aid/emergency shelter + distribution centres although they are often too late, unequiped/prepared. So to get to them you will need a radio (small, simple wind-up type) to find out where they are (should the power be knocked out etc) a map of the area and personal documents, contacts list and identification. If travelling (which is more than likely) then you'l need the correct tool items to get your vehicle through whatever terrain/weather is typical for your area. Other bits are fairly obvious, torch, multi tool, money, change of clothes, food and water etc. Link to post Share on other sites
AceOfSkulls Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 I really like the idea, unfortunately the image is tainted for me by the types of people who would be sure to pack their tinfoil helmet first. And I really don't fancy being one of those. HA! thats your first mistake , you dont pack a tin foil helmet, you would be wearing it! Link to post Share on other sites
Dan_Breen Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 HA! thats your first mistake , you dont pack a tin foil helmet, you would be wearing it! What we need in this situation is a face in hands, slowly shaking head in disbelief smiley... Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 get this- http://www.mossberg.com/products/default.a...ection=products What we need in this situation is a face in hands, slowly shaking head in disbelief smiley... Seriously, I worry about how many people seem to think that the best way to deal with an emergency is to shoot it. A lot. Link to post Share on other sites
Chimpy Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Seriously, I worry about how many people seem to think that the best way to deal with an emergency is to shoot it. A lot. http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/149674 Link to post Share on other sites
babybackribs Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Seriously, I worry about how many people seem to think that the best way to deal with an emergency is to shoot it. A lot. Shouting at the problem very loudly also helps a lot. Link to post Share on other sites
The End Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Seriously, I worry about how many people seem to think that the best way to deal with an emergency is to shoot it. A lot. well after all it is a Just In Case haha. But seriously, in an emergency, people's morals and ethics would break down, I'd rather have a deterent to stop them than being unarmed. Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 well after all it is a Just In Case haha. But seriously, in an emergency, people's morals and ethics would break down, I'd rather have a deterent to stop them than being unarmed. What if the other guy has a bigger gun? Link to post Share on other sites
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