Frontiers Posted September 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Nope, all new China made, and it's supposed to be around $450 to $500 USD retail. i remember reading its the Trigger Happy version even in US forums they say so, now what makes you think $500 USD gun would be a china made you name one gun that costs $500 that has been made in China...there ain't one Link to post Share on other sites
speculator Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 i remember reading its the Trigger Happy version even in US forums they say so, now what makes you think $500 USD gun would be a china made you name one gun that costs $500 that has been made in China...there ain't one Celsius PTW?? Link to post Share on other sites
Frontiers Posted September 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Celsius PTW?? never heard of that one, in China or seen, if it would be made here it would be sold here aswell Link to post Share on other sites
Praying Mantis Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 AGM MG42? Link to post Share on other sites
Frontiers Posted September 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 AGM MG42? just got canceled maybe...AGM Boss was was arrested many days ago and have not been released i doubt he will get anything out before the 60th anniversary, hope he can get out safely without repercussions. Link to post Share on other sites
hymer Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Noooooo, It cant be canceled, I wil lcry if that happens Anyway has the M60 hit any known retailers yet? Link to post Share on other sites
Frontiers Posted September 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Noooooo, It cant be canceled, I wil lcry if that happens Anyway has the M60 hit any known retailers yet? there is a rumour here that it got into a containers going to EU and US before the lockdown so some big retailer might have it in next 2-3 weeks out, lets hope atleast that its true so we can enjoy it Link to post Share on other sites
xxxFENCExxx Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 TaiwanGun sells them - http://www.taiwangun.com/shop,show,1640 ~ $550 / 360Euro Link to post Share on other sites
chownsy Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Celsius PTW?? thats Hong Kong made, not mainland china made (from what i beleive) Link to post Share on other sites
dog green 1 Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 How can I hide one of these without the wife finding out I've added something else to the collection??? Maybe she'll confuse it for my MG42. Link to post Share on other sites
JeepCJ8 Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 My search fu was weak, Has anyone found it in a HONG KONG store yet? Link to post Share on other sites
EOL Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 I have the A&K M60 MK43 and i love it so i have to get this one too. Link to post Share on other sites
Ferrarilove1 Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 Just saw this on this front page and the VN version is about $70 more at AEX over the MK43, I suppose that's because of the high metal content but still much more affordable than the TOP version . $400 isn't too much for a support weapon who wants to be the first to write a review first? Link to post Share on other sites
Hillslam Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 its only more because its new and they think it'll draw more sales Link to post Share on other sites
Ferrarilove1 Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 its only more because its new and they think it'll draw more sales Yes, I forgot that. Just like the mark-up of the WWII stuff AGM is releasing, but I expect the sales to preform well even with the economy in shambles. I also noticed there is "MADE IN CHINA" on this side of the gun ¬_¬, hopefully otherwise it will have correct trademarks. Link to post Share on other sites
AGLSwagger Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 It's available here but its not available everywhere unlike most A&K releases. Hope its not because of the raids the chinese are making and the apparent shutting down of acm factories. Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?...953%3Cbr%20/%3E Link to post Share on other sites
dog green 1 Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Still says out of stock?? Link to post Share on other sites
EOL Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Anyone found them in any HK shops yet? Link to post Share on other sites
Ming Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Anyone found them in any HK shops yet? Or the UK, for that matter? Or is this likely to be a post-Chinese New Year thing now? Link to post Share on other sites
GoLgO 13 Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 These are starting to show up as sold out everywhere I have looked? Anybody have any updates on this? Link to post Share on other sites
Frontiers Posted January 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 after chinese new year can be expected, next month 20th Chinese come back to work Link to post Share on other sites
Forze Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 www.taiwangun.com for the euro peeps (shop in poland) Link to post Share on other sites
Hillslam Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 I was in AirsoftSmith just this weekend and they have them sitting on the counter. www.AirsoftSmith.com Link to post Share on other sites
JeepCJ8 Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 As you can see in this image that my love of all things belt fed continues. As I also have several competing machine gun replicas a direct comparison is possible as well my hope is that this will make the review even more informative and comprehensive.. I will be initially comparing closely with the STAR/ARES M60E4/Mk43. Purchasing/ and packaging My A&K was purchased at Airsoft Atlanta for $395 on Thursday and shipped via UPS, It arrived today a few hours ago due to the weekend and the holiday. Packaging was excellent. One of my concerns with A&K is the resent raid by Chinese government official has shut manufacturing operations down, whether or not this is permanent or not only time will tell. In the mean time replacement parts for any A&K products has proven to be difficult. (I can not find a replacement upper stock pin for a M249) What this means to us and this review is if you want this replica don't wait, once they are gone, they are GONE! at least for the near future. The replica arrives with a proper metal flash hider which is sadly painted orange and a improper M16 plastic flash hider which is glued on. To remove this one needs to back off a set screw and apply moderate twisting force onto the plastic flash hider, initially I thought it was threaded on to but it is a press fit. After it is removed you only have to clean the glue residue off with a wire brush and screw the metal one into place (it is left handed threads) In addition the replica is shipped with a pouch, powered box magazine and a user manual. Physical impressions and Description The A&K M60 replicates the first issued M60 machine gun, nicknamed the pig, it is a awful heavy hunk of fire power. So much so that the military considers the M60 a crew server weapon to help lug its weight around. The replica itself is massive compared to most airsoft replicas most players are familiar with even in comparison to the now common M249. What surprised me is the difference in weight between the STAR/ARES M60E4/MK43 (12.2 .lbs empty) and the A&K M60 (18.2 .lbs empty) Understand that the M60E4/Mk43 is a improved lightened, easier to handle M60 machine gun so it makes sense that the full size one would be awkward and heavier, I just did not expect it to be nearly twice as heavy! If you are a small person, this is NOT the replica for you. I knew from a excellent review of the A&K M60E4/mk43 done by Hillslam that the A&K M60 replicas where body chassis is in two major sub assemblies that bolted together into the middle. I had serious concerns about this as it has been proven to be problematic in other replicas. Mine is no different, the screw in my replica are mechanically tight but the forward portion of the operative charging handle has a wobble not unlike that of the infamous barrel wobble found on some M4/M16 replicas. I intend to look into eliminating this wobble in the near future. luckily this loose fit is much better than the prototype which looked bent. The gearbox is massive, It is if not the same then based on the M249 gearbox that is known for its resistance to abuse. It does have the quick change spring/ spring guide found in the M249 and M60 replicas however there is NO space in the body to use this feature, one much remove the gearbox to do so. In the competing STAR and ARES M60s there is a cavernous space for a battery behind the gearbox. There is not room for even this in the ARES, instead it is wired to the side with the intention of placing a battery into a hanging nylon pouch that also encloses a plastic powered box magazine. The box magazine I have high hopes for this box magazine, The biggest problems I have had with the STAR and ARES M60E4/MK43 has been with the box magazine. The A&K box mag looks very similar to its competitors. Thankfully upon closer inspection it is not (thank lord) I have not yet disassembled it yet but some of the difference appear to be more than superficial. More on this at a later date. One thing I can mention is that the box mag does lack the mounting buttons that the ARES and STAR box mags are fitted with. It is wired into the gun with a 3 pin connector (ARES uses a 2 pin connector and the STAR used 3 AA batteries (or 4 A or a 9 volt depending on how desperate you where to get it to feed) The feed trays are also different between the two replicas as the A&K rightfully is the earlier style. Guess I'll have to find a B3 C ration can to make a feed ramp which was a common GI field modification. More on this replica review after I get some field time with it. Link to post Share on other sites
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