ED-SKaR Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 I'd put in inner barrels from AEGs. Not TBs mind, just stock ones(6.08 or w/e) and have them as long as possible given your outer barrels. Nice project so far. I'd love to see what it looks like painted. Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Renegade - Going on from Ed's suggestion, i've got a fair few standard bore AEG barrels you could cut down to the appropriate length. I've also got access to free postage, so if you want a couple, sling me your address and i'll send 'em out free of charge Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted October 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 I'd put in inner barrels from AEGs. Not TBs mind, just stock ones(6.08 or w/e) and have them as long as possible given your outer barrels. Well the barrels are 8" and the shell is 2 3/4" so there's roughly about 5" left for the inner barrel. But it looks bad when the muzzle is made too small with the bore still being for a shotgun, so a good 2" shorter should hide the inner barrels. The fps test for the makeshift 3" plastic barrels proved ok though, probably over 250 since the bb's did fly farther than the barrel did, and that's without hop-up still (not that I'm installing a hop-up anyways). But yeah, proper barrels to be installed in the morning. sling me your address and i'll send 'em out free of charge I greatly appreciate the offer, but I've some brass and aluminum barrels here to chop up. I was just curious to know how much an advantage inner barrels would give so I tried the plastic ones first. I didn't actually glue them in, just stuffed them tight with rolls of paper and tape so I could get them out again if they weren't too good. I also couldn't resist but begin on the next project. Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 I also couldn't resist but begin on the next project. As if a sawnoff wasn't badas5 enough as it is... Can't wait to see it, looks immense even just from the barrels! Link to post Share on other sites
Richwatts2002 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 ok the grin on my face is HUGE! cant wait to see the finnished 40mm version & may well have to ask you to make me one! can i suggest a full stock for the 40mm version as i t would even it out in looks. absolutly great work bud! Link to post Share on other sites
wilfire Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Hehe Think I have been giggling for longer than 15 seconds now. That 40mm going to be silly and amazing at the same time. The wooden bits look sweet now you have stained them. I see what you mean about them looking like one chunk of wood. Does it take careful alignment of the grain to get that effect or just careful glueing and sanding? Good luck with the bigger build. Link to post Share on other sites
charlieboy69 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 this thread make charlie sad. i miss my WA SHAN... why did it have to be stolen. why??!?!? top work though mate, and i like the 40mm already Link to post Share on other sites
ED-SKaR Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 You guys howling for 40mms make me facepalm To make the muzzle "look" good make an inverted dome thingie, cut a hole for the inner barrel, paint it black and use it to seat the inner barrel at the front. This is my plan for another shottie project i have running(that ill never finish) I recon it'll make it look better than having a shiney inner barrel visible, plus you get the longest inner barrel possible (for any gas powered airsoft gun more barrel = more power) Not sure if i explained that well. kinda like: ------------------------ \ 00000000000000000 / ------------------------ (0s are the inner barrel) Link to post Share on other sites
Triggerhappychappy Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Fantastic work Renegade, and LOL @ the blunderbus you've started on, that thing is gonna be immense. Link to post Share on other sites
gopeder111 Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 That is an awesome double barrel Are you going to put a front bead sight? Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted October 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 No bead sight at the moment as its supposed to be lopped off. I would have had posted the completed pics sooner if I wasn't too impatient about drying paint. I had assembled everything the other night only to realize that the paint hadn't cured enough yet as it was practically drizzling all day; had to retouch some parts damaged by my grubby hands. I've installed the inner barrels now. 3" brass inner barrels and they're removable via a screw each so the owner can choose to modify its length or remove them altogether (they're really loud without em). *screws hidden underneath, covered by the fore end Painted parts and stained wood with one coat of clear varnish for a semi-gloss effect Glamour shots. The shells are TM though as I had plenty of those and only one Tanaka shell left with me. edit: Does it take careful alignment of the grain to get that effect or just careful glueing and sanding? Just eyeballing it works. Make sure that all layers have the grain pointing to the same direction and don't use parts of the wood where obvious differences would be noticed like parts with knots and change in grain quality. You have to squeeze them tight with vices when gluing to get as much of the glue out between the layers. Pockets of glue or having the glue set thick will show upon staining. Sanding it is all about following the direction of the grain before finishing, gradually increasing in grit #. I start with 60 for shaping and just sand in every which direction, then move on to 100 starting to follow the grain, 200 then 600 likewise. Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 I WANT ONE. Actually, i want a full length full stocked one, so i'd have an excuse to dress like an angry farmer. Still, awesome build dude - looks fantastic. Link to post Share on other sites
Pkekyo-Nor Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Yeah... you're gonna have to make me one of these! Absolutely stunning! Link to post Share on other sites
Wege Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 The next would be the over/under style. Link to post Share on other sites
teflon don Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 wouldn't you get more range and spread if you would use airsoft surgeons buck shot or slug shot i guess that the trigger pull would be lighter because they work like 40 mm grenades Link to post Share on other sites
tomster Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Very, very awesome man, put a vid on youtube! Link to post Share on other sites
wilfire Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Just eyeballing it works. Make sure that all layers have the grain pointing to the same direction and don't use parts of the wood where obvious differences would be noticed like parts with knots and change in grain quality. You have to squeeze them tight with vices when gluing to get as much of the glue out between the layers. Pockets of glue or having the glue set thick will show upon staining. Sanding it is all about following the direction of the grain before finishing, gradually increasing in grit #. I start with 60 for shaping and just sand in every which direction, then move on to 100 starting to follow the grain, 200 then 600 likewise. Ah ok. Thanks for that. Might have to give that a try. Just need some thing to build now Looks fantastic. Well done on a very good looking build. Link to post Share on other sites
ED-SKaR Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 That is very nice, good job! Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 The next would be the over/under style. agreed. never seen one in airsoft and they do look undeniably badass. will you be making your 40mm in the style of the 'force-a-nature' (very short barrels and a short full stock)? Link to post Share on other sites
firewolf Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Fps with barrels? cheers Link to post Share on other sites
nieb15 Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Awesome, just awesome. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted October 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Thanks guys! will you be making your 40mm in the style of the 'force-a-nature' (very short barrels and a short full stock)? I'm actually not very sure yet. Right now I'm thinking a sawed stock like the "Randal" custom winchester where the stock is cut a couple of inches after the pistol grip ends. Still designing the action if its going to be scaled up like an M79 or keep it with shotgun parts but with jumbo barrels. Fps with barrels? cheers A little more than the 250 I expected. Kinda stings though since there's 3 on em in a tight group (point blank) but they spread quick after 15m. Link to post Share on other sites
elrey Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 It's always nice to see quality custom jobs. Great work! Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 damn, thats sick! how much did it cost to build it? can you post up blueprints (or sketches) and measurements? i REALLY want to build one. if anyone wants to know, all redwolf does to make the converted tanakas is take out the inner barrel and shell stopper, nothing else. the shells are held in by the ridges of the chamber and extractor and fire directly and only from the shell. i look to use madbull shells. or, if its more interesting for you, how much would it take to commission you for the build? you can PM me, but i probably wont be able to pay for it for a while. can we see pics of it being handled by someone? one more thing, the reason the shells fire off fine with normal depression of the button is because when the valve creeps open, the millisecond the gas starts flowing the valve is forced completely open to let the rest of the gas out. it really is just a small grenade. Link to post Share on other sites
Hurmekyna Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 What about a four barrel one next time..? Link to post Share on other sites
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