bbstriker Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Speculation upon speculation. Come on guys. Its a new product. It has no display so it will either have pre-programmed fixed UHF channels for different markets (e.g. UK PMT 446) or will be programmable. I've had nothing but good experience of programming radios from real kenwoods, replica kenwoods to Puxing radios. I've got several puxing radios across 3 models and they have been a breeze to program from XP laptop to military rugged tablet PC's running Windows 98. So much pessamistic speculation is - well very cynical. Let's give the product time to get to market. and see. I for one am 100% certain these radios will ship as Kenwood system clones just like 99% of all other chinese replicas- but that's my humble opinion. Link to post Share on other sites
galactica Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 needless to say, if it's more than 0.5w tx power, it will be illegal to use on PMR446 frequencies. *shouts into the dark* Link to post Share on other sites
Hillslam Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 These are team radios. How far apart is your team going to be?? If you want range you carry a Squad radio pumping out a few watts. The MBITTR replica is out shortly at around 4 watts. Combined with the PRR you can have a replicated radio environment similar to squad level comms. The MBITR has been out since May, with versions done by Toy Soldier and Dragon Red. The TS version is just a dressed up citizens radio with 22 channels and low power, but the DR one is 5watts (or .5 watts, two settings) and 99 fully programmable channels handling 400mhz to 470mhz. I'd love to combine the DR one with these for squad comms. Can't wait to see who's selling them and how they're programmed and specs. ...and a review. Link to post Share on other sites
msx361 Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 airsoft global has them in OD and Tan. Link to post Share on other sites
shadownova Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Wow a PRR, sounds interesting. I too am waiting for a review, but right now I am still learning for the DR MBITR. But if this PRR turns out to be a good radio, I may pick up the MBITR and PRR (if they are compatible). Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 http://airsoftglobal.com/product_info.php?products_id=10932 http://airsoftglobal.com/product_info.php?products_id=10933 Link to post Share on other sites
Svack Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 anyone know if they do spares for these? I'm wondering if the knobs and battery covers fit actual PRRs Link to post Share on other sites
bbstriker Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 airsoft global has them in OD and Tan. Unbeleiveable. How can you possibly sell radios without giving more information??? No power spec. No frequency per channel listing, not headset interface type- nothing! This is a big indiactor that they don't know what they're selling and will give you absolutely no help if it goes wrong. I think I'll wait and buy from another retailer who shows a bit more interest in their product. Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Wait until http://www.px-airsoft.com/index.do has them in stock: he's actually specialised in radios. Link to post Share on other sites
bbstriker Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Wait until http://www.px-airsoft.com/index.do has them in stock: he's actually specialised in radios. Wow they do a lot of radios and provide some information so you know what you're buying. Thank you for that. I'll definitely look them up to buy the PRR if the frequencies match UK PMR. Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Wow they do a lot of radios and provide some information so you know what you're buying. You accidentally the main verb. Link to post Share on other sites
KWP Posted October 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Yes, PX-Airsoft will have them. I actually had the chance to test them, but I didn't have any batteries. That's because they require special Li-Ion batteries of the type 14500 (3.6V) - two of them. Afaik, these are UHF radios programmable from 410MHz to 470MHz. Overall build quality is amazing. No cheapo plastic and all the buttons make a very sturdy impression. I had the feeling these are real PRRs. I will test if they are real specs by replacing the single PTT with my real single PTT. But function and performance wise I will have to wait until tomorrow when I have those special Li-Ion batteries available. Edit: Don't mean to spread rumours, but I was told they will make only 200pcs. in total. Unconfirmed, but could be true. Here's a list with the preset channels and one more pic: Photo 1/2: Photo 2/2: Link to post Share on other sites
sierra hotel Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I'm loving the way this headset looks. Considering a purchase. Link to post Share on other sites
shadownova Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 How exactly do I reprogram the radio? Is there some kind of input I can connect some kind of cable to my computer? Or do I need to take it to specialist and have them do it (mentioned in the posts above). I am excited about this radio, because you mentioned it is solid and durable. I have to rethink and reorganize my vests now, because they are configured for the slender/tall MBITR and not the wide/short PRR. edit: Can I also attach a different headset? I think these are commonly available batteries, at least in America. I looked them up online (googled 14500 battery) and got a whole bunch of links and sites. Link to post Share on other sites
Lupus Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Can someone give a link or more info about these batteries? It seems a huge drawback for me. Link to post Share on other sites
bbstriker Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 How exactly do I reprogram the radio? Is there some kind of input I can connect some kind of cable to my computer? Or do I need to take it to specialist and have them do it (mentioned in the posts above). I am excited about this radio, because you mentioned it is solid and durable. I have to rethink and reorganize my vests now, because they are configured for the slender/tall MBITR and not the wide/short PRR. PC programmable Two-way radios have cables that plug into the headset socket. The other end is USB. The cable comes with a USB driver and software. Install the software, with the radio turned off, plug the cable on radio and PC, switch on radio run the software and it will (99%) detect the radio and upload the settings from the radio onto a table to allow you to change the various settings. When you've finished, there'll be some option to download/write the new settings/changes to the radio. It's really quite straight forward. Link to post Share on other sites
shadownova Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I imagined it would be something like that, but my question was meant to ask if THIS radio would come with this USB cable and software. And if not, are these things I can purchase myself easily? Link to post Share on other sites
galactica Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 you've really got to appreciate the irony of someone cloning a radio that makes a really big point of using the universal AA battery, only to make the clone use something completely the opposite. Fail-o-rama. Link to post Share on other sites
bbstriker Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 you've really got to appreciate the irony of someone cloning a radio that makes a really big point of using the universal AA battery, only to make the clone use something completely the opposite. Fail-o-rama. Agreed- totally baffling! Link to post Share on other sites
galactica Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 it's not that tricky to work out....the Marconi electronics are made specially to work at 3v. This uses the guts of a stock radio chipset from some chinese copy of a kenwood or similar - it needs 6-7v to do anything. Link to post Share on other sites
Lupus Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 And I had been thinking that I have a perfect Christmas gift for myself.... yea these batteries thing made whole story go down. Link to post Share on other sites
-=OGGY=- Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Who actually uses these? They look pretty cool. Much cheaper than the functional MBITR replica. Link to post Share on other sites
shadownova Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I know the Marines use them as of last year (2008) in Iraq. Link to post Share on other sites
-=OGGY=- Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 That's cool. I guess I'll get one of these instead of a MBITR then; save myself some money. Link to post Share on other sites
n1ch0 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 The batteries can be bought from here http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.19626 $4.75 and probably need one of this http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.1251 Nicholas Link to post Share on other sites
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