Stealthbomber Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Clicky! Seems slightly odd that the BBC claim the pirates phoned them to discuss the ransom. Also seems odd that the BBC just happened to have a Somali-speaking person on hand to answer the call when it came through. Anyway, hopefully we'll get to see how SAS or Royal Marine snipers compare with their US Navy counterparts in due course. Link to post Share on other sites
apmaman Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Do you think they will have learned the lesson about what happened to the other pirates that all got shot simultaneously the last time they held a hostage? Link to post Share on other sites
WhiskeyJuliet Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Amen to that. The pirates only do it because people usually pay the ransom. It's about time the foot was put down so to speak. Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Amen to that. The pirates only do it because people usually pay the ransom. It's about time the foot was put down so to speak. Quite! We didn't have an empire by paying ransoms all those years ago. Link to post Share on other sites
WhiskeyJuliet Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 We didn't have an empire by paying ransoms all those years ago. Epic quote xD!! Link to post Share on other sites
thewallhitme Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 no, but we didnt have an empire based upon piracy either.... would be nice to have some sort of SAS raid and hear that all the pirates have been dropped though. silly them Link to post Share on other sites
Chimpy Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Seems slightly odd that the BBC claim the pirates phoned them to discuss the ransom. Also seems odd that the BBC just happened to have a Somali-speaking person on hand to answer the call when it came through. Why would you need a Somali speaking person? Piracy is big business and I'm pretty sure the pirates spokesman was probably speaking English from a nice comfortable location. Barring that Somalia also used to be carved up by several European states so I imagine several of the languages have survived there. Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan94 Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 yea but he was speaking somali becasue they played the call out on the news and twasnt english Link to post Share on other sites
Silent_Assassin Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 A friend of mine saw this on the news last night and she was like "OMG! I didn't realise pirates were real"! To which I just facepalmed and poured her another drink. And I also would like to see some SAS/SF whoopass action. Josh Link to post Share on other sites
Erik Cartman Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 no, but we didnt have an empire based upon piracy either.... Way better than piracy. And, first and foremost, it was perceived as legit. Been to that very impressive period building in Bloomsbury lately? They even have the Rossetta Stone. Link to post Share on other sites
Azubi Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Wouldn't it be SBS who do the rescue, if at all? Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted October 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Why would you need a Somali speaking person? Piracy is big business and I'm pretty sure the pirates spokesman was probably speaking English from a nice comfortable location. Barring that Somalia also used to be carved up by several European states so I imagine several of the languages have survived there. I guess you didn't hear the footage of the call yet then? Link to post Share on other sites
Silent_Assassin Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Wouldn't it be SBS who do the rescue, if at all? It's gonna be a 50/50 chance on who gets the job I recon. The SBS would be the better option as they would be in their prime at sea. Then again the SAS could go all "COD4 - Crew expendable" on their asses They'll most likely have Marine support anyhows. When Ross Kemp did his "On Pirates" series the went up in a chopper with a couple of Marine snipers who had trained especially to pick off moving targets on a moving ship from a moving helicoptor. They're not gonna leave those assets on the side line. Josh Link to post Share on other sites
Chimpy Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 I guess you didn't hear the footage of the call yet then? Nope been rather busy! Where was the call made too geographically then? Since 'the BBC' is a bit non-specific. Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted October 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Nope been rather busy! Where was the call made too geographically then? Since 'the BBC' is a bit non-specific. I suppose it's vaguely possible that the call was placed to a BBC field office in Mogadishu but they had some guy on Newsnight talking about how the call was placed to "us" and how he wanted to make it perfectly clear that the BBC didn't try to make contact with the pirates etc. Just seems slightly odd that Somalian pirates might arbitrarily contact a BBC office by telephone and manage to get through to a person who speaks whatever language they were using. I suspect there's more to that communication than we've been told. On topic, it worries me slightly that our country is currently being run by an accountant. The government has announced that they're not going to pay any ransom but I hope this doesn't also mean that Brown will also rule out military intervention on grounds of cost as well. That's one thing that you have to give the yanks. They might refuse to pay a $1million ransom but they will happily then spend $200 million mobilising ground, sea, air and satellite assets in order to go and kick some pirate *albatross* instead. No expense is ever spared when handing out a bit of righteous whup-*albatross*. THAT is an attitude that the world could use a bit more of IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
thewallhitme Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 its very possible that the hostages have been moved to a land location in somalia somewhere, so it may be a building raid if it did go down. Link to post Share on other sites
Shriven Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 In Ross Kemp on Pirates ( the book), he spoke of there literally being a pirate town, Pirates of the Caribbean style... Just a whole town made entirely of pirates, apparently it's where most of the hijacked ships and people get taken. You'd have to launch a full scale operation to get them back, as there's something like 250 people being held there! Link to post Share on other sites
spetsnazdave87 Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Dont let Michael Bay find that out... Link to post Share on other sites
Shriven Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 It'd make an awesome book. I mean, pirates, SAS and artillery? Plus rescuing possible fitties? It's like James Bond on 'roids Link to post Share on other sites
mattmanic Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 I saw a program about the French(iirc) dealing with a group of pirates demanding a ransom. It was a while ago but I still remember the awesomeness. Anyways. They paid the ransom and got the hostages. Then they sent a couple of helicopters full of snipers after the pirates who were by now on land and in 4x4s. They took out the drivers/engines/really angry pirates, arrested the rest and got their ransom money back. Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted January 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Just heard something on the news about this... Apparently there was a RN Frigate actually following the container vessel that the pirates took the Chandlers aboard. It was less than 100m away from them at the time they were captured and, apparently, there were a bunch of Royal Marines and specialist snipers aboard. The MOD responded by stating that the marines aboard the vessel were not trained in hostage rescue. Furthermore, the container ship was tracked back to a somalian port and an SBS squad was alerted to intercept the ship before it arrived in port. Apparently the SBS troops arrived but, due to an administrative balls-up, the regular army/navy people responsible for organising transport refused to fast-track the supply of their equipment so the SBS guys had to sit around while the ship docked and the kidnappers disembarked. The SBS offered to conduct the rescue regardless of location after their kit arrived but the MOD pulled the plug on the operation. At this point there's no communication between our government and the hostages and Paul Chandler has just been on the phone again, saying that they're told they're going to be executed within 3 or 4 days. Go us! Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 ... Go us! it beggars belief. it really does. Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 I do hope this can be resolved, one can only imagine the horror they are going through having to beg for their own lives. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 i hope loads of people get shot cause it was rate cool in mw2 lol Link to post Share on other sites
jay bee Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Don't suppose anyone has heard anything more on this? Googling didn't bring up anything new.. Praying at this stage that the SBS get a second stab at rescuing them, we all know they'd bloody destroy those pirates. Link to post Share on other sites
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