navymp28 Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Yeah I was thinking the same,looks like some photoshopping around the mag pouches,gloves and arms. Looks pretty real to me...doesn't like photoshopped at all. Link to post Share on other sites
Seraphim989 Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 I agree that the one pic looks really funky. But the pattern is amazing. Its so...blobular. It all just blends into one another. Very unlike anything Id expect to see american forces in. Link to post Share on other sites
Azulsky Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 I look forward to seeing what the "additional supporting color and design variants" will be, especially since they have specifically stated it is not a universal pattern and the current pics are of the ARID palette. Link to post Share on other sites
Aeros Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 neat stuff, but those pics definitely shoped lol you can tell by the lighting differences between the foreground (the guy and the debris hes standing on) and the background (iraqi buildings? lol) im interested to see more too though Link to post Share on other sites
Ish Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Looks interesting. It's like digital multicam. Also both pictures are pretty badly shopped. Link to post Share on other sites
McArthur Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Doesn't look Photoshopped to me, and I study both graphic design (Which includes use of Photoshop and other digital manipulation software) and Photography. Looks like a low depth of field, which has resulted in the dude in the camo being in-focus, and the background quite badly out of focus. I also don't see any other manipulation anywhere else in the image. In my opinion, the photograph looks a bit funky because of the camouflage pattern playing tricks with your eyes and mind, and thats gotta be a good thing. Furthermore, I trust the guys at Lightfighter when they say that was taken at a training facility in the States. Link to post Share on other sites
tome Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 I have to say that i was impressed by the first photo but the second just screamed photoshop at me as soon as i saw it. Maybe i'm wrong about it but the colour of the background and subject seems to have been messed with enough that it looks really unnatural :-S Either way, from the blurb it has the same design features as CADPAT so if this works in arid as well as CADPAT works in temperate the they might be onto a winner. I also don't buy the "Organic pixel" thing. If they're close enough to see the individual pixels i don't think a pattern is going to help them not see you it's more likely just a "feature" to make their pattern stand out from other digital patterns. Link to post Share on other sites
Glock18Monkey Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Saw this on another forum. I think the pics are real, slightly enhanced maybe but that doesnt take away the fact that you want it! Would like to see it in some Temperate climate conditions to see how well it does. Certainly does the job in the pics supplies, even if they have played with the pics. When and Where is all I want to know as its on my shopping list! Link to post Share on other sites
BigAl Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Would like to see it in some Temperate climate conditions to see how well it does. Why, it's not a multi enviroment pattern, their is a seperate colouration for temperate regions. Link to post Share on other sites
Fighting Maus Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 While I appreciate the camoflague pattern, I am interested in the stock on that gun. I checked magpulls website but didnt see it listed. Perhaps something new as that is the Remington ACR? Link to post Share on other sites
kodiak22 Posted November 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 While I appreciate the camoflague pattern, I am interested in the stock on that gun. I checked magpulls website but didnt see it listed. Perhaps something new as that is the Remington ACR? Its not new, its just the fixed stock for the ACR, and that's why its not listed on Magpuls website, because the ACR isn't out yet. Link to post Share on other sites
ChewbacaChunx Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 I have to say that i was impressed by the first photo but the second just screamed photoshop at me as soon as i saw it. Maybe i'm wrong about it but the colour of the background and subject seems to have been messed with enough that it looks really unnatural :-S One of the guys working on the pattern said these pics are real over on lightfighter. Link to post Share on other sites
kodiak22 Posted November 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 I forgot to mention in my last post, im seeing people say its a universal pattern, or its arid terrain specific. Here is a quote from Soldier Systems. A-TACS® is designed as a universal pattern for a wide range of operational environments with additional supporting color and design variants to follow. The current pattern uses a tan base and is tuned for use in arid environments. Hope this helps a bit. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 So they're saying it's both universal and terrain specific. Sounds like political double-talk, to me. Link to post Share on other sites
tome Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 There's nothing to suggest that the pictures aren't real. They are real in that a model/soldier posed for them in the an enviroment and a photograph was taken However it looks to me like the color and intensities in the photo were then played around with to give a better indication of performance than the original. This doesn't mean that the pattern isn't good or doesn't work, it just annoys me when i think pattern designers resort to photo manipulation to market a pattern. Link to post Share on other sites
navymp28 Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Doesn't look Photoshopped to me, and I study both graphic design (Which includes use of Photoshop and other digital manipulation software) and Photography. Looks like a low depth of field, which has resulted in the dude in the camo being in-focus, and the background quite badly out of focus. I also don't see any other manipulation anywhere else in the image. In my opinion, the photograph looks a bit funky because of the camouflage pattern playing tricks with your eyes and mind, and thats gotta be a good thing. Furthermore, I trust the guys at Lightfighter when they say that was taken at a training facility in the States. Thanks for the info McArthur, I know alot of doods like to throw out the PS claim alot...and most don't know anything about photography or Photoshop. I can't wait for more pictures of this pattern and in different climates and enviroments. Link to post Share on other sites
Azubi Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 So they're saying it's both universal and terrain specific. Sounds like political double-talk, to me. I think they are saying that the pattern is the same but the colours will be different for each environment. Link to post Share on other sites
Seraphim989 Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 I have several years of photography experience, and I'm not saying the picture is altered because the background is out of focus. Its the extreme line of definition between the foreground and the background that makes it look altered to me. I've taken plenty of pictures where the focus is adjusted for just the foreground, and you don't get anywhere near that line of definition between the two Link to post Share on other sites
speculator Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 I have several years of photography experience, and I'm not saying the picture is altered because the background is out of focus. Its the extreme line of definition between the foreground and the background that makes it look altered to me. I've taken plenty of pictures where the focus is adjusted for just the foreground, and you don't get anywhere near that line of definition between the two I completely agree, the DOF seems way too unnatural and defined for the background not to be artificial. The pattern does strike some interest to me though and I look forward to any news about it. Link to post Share on other sites
SFCHAVOK Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Well I really like this pattern. Looks to me like the old brush stroke stuff Paratroopers did to their stuff in WWII. No discernible and consistent pattern. A+ from me. I would be all over this if it it's the market. Link to post Share on other sites
DrKalinka Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 If i were to make a kit without basing it on a real world army i would use this. It looks way cool! Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Jon Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Ive been thinking about the multiple colourways thing, and could it be that they're making a different one for each branch, so that they all get a different uniform like now for the whole branch identity thing. just speculation. Link to post Share on other sites
Jagdraben Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Each branch of what? No one has adopted this and no one is looking at it. At least not yet. Yes, the (US) Army is looking at a new pattern... specifically for deployment in Afghanistan. Even if UCP-D or MultiCam or A-TACS is adopted, it won't be service-wide. And even if the Army adopts it, the Marines, Air Force, and Navy will continue along their own, happy little courses. In any case, the camouflage should be matched to the environment, not to the branch of service. Link to post Share on other sites
kodiak22 Posted November 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Each branch of what? No one has adopted this and no one is looking at it. At least not yet. Yes, the (US) Army is looking at a new pattern... specifically for deployment in Afghanistan. Even if UCP-D or MultiCam or A-TACS is adopted, it won't be service-wide. And even if the Army adopts it, the Marines, Air Force, and Navy will continue along their own, happy little courses. In any case, the camouflage should be matched to the environment, not to the branch of service. The article does state that the US Military( my guess would be army only, but who knows) is interested in the pattern, that's what i what he was probably talking about. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Jon Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 The article does state that the US Military( my guess would be army only, but who knows) is interested in the pattern, that's what i what he was probably talking about. it was. as i say, only speculation. either way i want some... Link to post Share on other sites
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