amateurstuntman Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 I guess it must be different with a bullpup. I was taught to cant the weapon over and fit the mag sideways, keeping it pointed in a safe direction at all times. Actually, since I am on the subject, I once got thrown off a range by a Para for letting my weapon hang on the sling with a mag in it like the dude in the white top. Different strokes... Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Foxhound Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 (edited) As stated before, they teach a certain way. They say in many videos Ive seen, it may not be for everyone. Shoot how you like to shoot. Ti get on topic,Where the PTS MOE Rails discontinued? I can only find the smaller ERGO ones. Edited February 1, 2010 by Mr Foxhound Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Would it be more of a range rule though, I know some ranges that forces you to keep the gun pointing down range since if a shot discharges at an angle it'll shoot over the bern...Same reason why you are flagged/DQ for your muzzle direction in IPSC? same old Magpul stuff from me.... Link to post Share on other sites
ctres94 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 @racing maniac, what flashlight and mount is that on your second shorter rifle? btw, really sweet pics, I love the bottom one. Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Light is a Surefire E2D LED Defender, mount is a LaRue LT-606 Light Mount. Link to post Share on other sites
RacingManiac Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Correct on both count... Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Do I get a cookie? Link to post Share on other sites
NeoVeNoM Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 that's a nice piece you got there racingmaniac. finally got a AFG. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted February 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 How comfortable/practical do you find it being located that close in mate? Link to post Share on other sites
reaper16 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Do I get a cookie? Yeah a magpul one, Anyway my Larue Rail system came in today, pics when I get back from putting it on. Link to post Share on other sites
NeoVeNoM Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 How comfortable/practical do you find it being located that close in mate? you mean the AFG? It 's quite more comofortable than no grip or vertical grip, actually I was quite surprised it felt that good. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Would it be more of a range rule though, I know some ranges that forces you to keep the gun pointing down range since if a shot discharges at an angle it'll shoot over the bern...Same reason why you are flagged/DQ for your muzzle direction in IPSC? same old Magpul stuff from me.... http://www.pbase.com/racingmaniac/image/12...08/original.jpg http://www.pbase.com/racingmaniac/image/12...10/original.jpg http://www.pbase.com/racingmaniac/image/12...12/original.jpg http://www.pbase.com/racingmaniac/image/12...14/original.jpg That looks cool dude. I like the stippling on the panels. that's a nice piece you got there racingmaniac. finally got a AFG. http://i49.tinypic.com/r8s7iw.jpg I like it. How's the height of the optic? I've had trouble in the past with it being too low and prefer a 1/3 lower co-witness. I'm not a fan of how the high LaRue mount looks, but it sure is at the right height for me. How comfortable/practical do you find it being located that close in mate? Keep in mind that the position of the AFG should be adjusted to the shooter, and there's no "right" way to position it ... simply what's best for the individual. I noticed at Carbine 1&2 that Travis and Chris didn't position the AFG in the same locations on their rails. Travis liked his all the way in front, Chris preferred his a little further in, about mid way back. We all have different arm lengths etc. I had my AFG pretty far forwards at the start of the second day (I used the KAC handstop the first day) and moved the AFG back mid way after realizing my own preferred position for it during weapon side urban prone. Travis and Chris was pretty candid about the AFG: You need to place it in a position that works for your body and in a way that is a good compromise between speed and accuracy. If you need to move it more forwards, you might need a longer rail. It's not about comfort, it's about control. It's a "theory based" product ... so it might work for you and then again it might not. If it's not working for you definitely take it off.* * I'm paraphrasing but that's basically what they said. Link to post Share on other sites
NeoVeNoM Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 (edited) I like it. How's the height of the optic? I've had trouble in the past with it being too low and prefer a 1/3 lower co-witness. I'm not a fan of how the high LaRue mount looks, but it sure is at the right height for me. For me it's perfect actually. I was thinking it might still be a bit too low but surprisingly it's on the right height for me. All I needed was a G&P rail riser. Edited February 2, 2010 by NeoVeNoM Link to post Share on other sites
ctres94 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 @aznriptide: thanks for filling me in. Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 (edited) Yeah a magpul one, GIMME GIMME GIMME!!! Magpul'ed MP7...sort of. I got a 9mm/.45 magpul to fit my long mags And of course, with the best poster in the world: Edited February 2, 2010 by aznriptide859 Link to post Share on other sites
Titleist Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 * I'm paraphrasing but that's basically what they said. That before or after Chris called you a cock fag on that drill? But seriously, you should NOT be running AFGs based on what looks cool. You need to run them on what FEELS best. And be honest with yourselves. Just because you bought the AFG doesn't mean you need to force yourself to use it. Simply put if it doesn't feel better, then move on. I run an AFG on two of my guns, but the AFG absolutely will NOT work for my Larue SBR. Hence it's a theory based product. Link to post Share on other sites
kingdong Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (hugh_b @ Jan 31 2010, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Seems very nicely made buddy! Very bright, more of a concentrated beam as opposed to a flood, but that suits me fine! Lights up rooms easily. A fair bit brigther than a standard real one. It even has surefire trades! Only £26 delivered from rsov too! where did you buy the flashlight? Edited February 2, 2010 by kingdong Link to post Share on other sites
Reincarnation... Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 where did you buy the flashlight? Check it out: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/inde...179331&st=0 -Luis There is a link at the end of the very first post. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 That before or after Chris called you a cock fag on that drill? I think it was after during the debrief. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted February 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Keep in mind that the position of the AFG should be adjusted to the shooter, and there's no "right" way to position it ... simply what's best for the individual. I noticed at Carbine 1&2 that Travis and Chris didn't position the AFG in the same locations on their rails. Travis liked his all the way in front, Chris preferred his a little further in, about mid way back. We all have different arm lengths etc. I had my AFG pretty far forwards at the start of the second day (I used the KAC handstop the first day) and moved the AFG back mid way after realizing my own preferred position for it during weapon side urban prone. Travis and Chris was pretty candid about the AFG: You need to place it in a position that works for your body and in a way that is a good compromise between speed and accuracy. If you need to move it more forwards, you might need a longer rail. It's not about comfort, it's about control. It's a "theory based" product ... so it might work for you and then again it might not. If it's not working for you definitely take it off.* * I'm paraphrasing but that's basically what they said. Just in case it came across that way, I wasn't knocking NeoVenom's setup at all, quite the opposite. I just plan on sticking an AFG on to some MOE handguards, so it would obviously end up being very close to the receiver; and seeing as most people are bolting it further out I'm just after opinions of whether it could work at that close in position or not. I've no idea just yet if it will work for me at all to be honest, but I find the thumb break grip to be the best for me so I'm just going to give the AFG a shot and see how it goes. But seriously, you should NOT be running AFGs based on what looks cool. You need to run them on what FEELS best. And be honest with yourselves. Just because you bought the AFG doesn't mean you need to force yourself to use it. Simply put if it doesn't feel better, then move on. I run an AFG on two of my guns, but the AFG absolutely will NOT work for my Larue SBR. Hence it's a theory based product. I'd agree entirely, personally I take pictures of my airsoft guns in the setups that I've tried out and will skirmish with. This may only be airsoft, but I think having a good control over your weapon and a method that suits you should certainly take precedence over looks any day of the week; unless it's just a wall hanger anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Just in case it came across that way, I wasn't knocking NeoVenom's setup at all, quite the opposite. I just plan on sticking an AFG on to some MOE handguards, so it would obviously end up being very close to the receiver; and seeing as most people are bolting it further out I'm just after opinions of whether it could work at that close in position or not. I've no idea just yet if it will work for me at all to be honest, but I find the thumb break grip to be the best for me so I'm just going to give the AFG a shot and see how it goes. Sorry, it wasn't directed specifically at you. I've just noticed a lot of people trying to figure out the appropriate way to use the AFG, and after using it for three days straight and firing off a couple thousand rounds of 5.56mm, I've understood that the right way to use it varies from person to person significantly. That's all I was trying to say. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted February 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Ironically far more than I've fired in a 2 1/2 year career as a military armourer, go figure. Fair point though on the usage, makes a lot of sense really considering the whole idea behind it; either way it bridges the gap between a VFG and the flat of your handguard which is a good thing purely within itself. Anyway, first few bits arrived yesterday for the next weapon that's in the works: It would appear the only run of OD CTRs PTS did was some time ago and they didn't come with the rubber pad at that time, anyone know if the upgrade ones (the 0.7" for example) come with the 2 mounting the screws? Link to post Share on other sites
trdsupragt Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Does anyone know how compatible Magpul parts will be with an ICS? Here's what I'm looking to get for my M4: CTR stock MIAD grip Trigger guard ASAP plate For the grip issue, I've changed the gears. So there shouldn't be too much of a pinion and bevel gear issue with the motor. Link to post Share on other sites
Vila Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Should be good on all but the ASAP plate. I haven't tried to fit one of those on an ICS, but I'd imagine it'd fit. Link to post Share on other sites
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