Tinkerton Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 No support for Android? Useless. Link to post Share on other sites
yastobaal Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Looks interesting but way out of my price range at the moment, though I would love to see it in action. As for being able to shoot at it, go for it. Whilst you are concentrating on the skys you're not looking for actual people who could shoot you. Plus in the UK I don't think the average power limits would allow for major damage to happen, nor are many of our guns accurate enough to shoot at a sky target. But of course I've never had the chance to try and would love to. Link to post Share on other sites
Azubi Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Whilst you are concentrating on the skys you're not looking for actual people who could shoot you. Again, teamwork. Plus in the UK I don't think the average power limits would allow for major damage to happen, It doesn't have that much range so chances are it will be in hitting distance and it looks fairly flimsy. nor are many of our guns accurate enough to shoot at a sky target. But of course I've never had the chance to try and would love to. Tried and tested method of hosing the skies. Worked in WW2, will work now. Link to post Share on other sites
Bada Bing Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Dont necessarily have to use it for airsoft. Anyone remember that recon Roy Schieder did in Blue Thunder? Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 I think its very cool. How do i buy one? Even if i dont use it for airsoft it'll still be great fun to play with! Link to post Share on other sites
Chimpy Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 I posted a link ages ago to homemade UAV setups in another thread. This looks pretty cool but still a gimmicky toy, some of those setups were probably more what you'd want for an Airsoft game. Typically I find it just after finishing the post: http://diydrones.com/ Link to post Share on other sites
frogfish Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 I don't think Arduino based setups (what the DIY drones community specializes in) would work for Airsoft, it's more of an aerial photography setup. You can't reprogram Ardu pilot on the fly especially while it's under way, which makes it kind of useless for airsoft. Really your only options are Otto pilot, Pico pilot, and paparazzi, but again those are for fully autonomous aircraft, all you really need to do is put a camera and a transmitter on board an RC aircraft. Link to post Share on other sites
Chimpy Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 I guess the good thing about an autopilot is you can fly the plane to a location and then stick it in an orbit. As you say following a track isn't that useful. Link to post Share on other sites
galactica Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 there's no true "on board" video from it in that video. I suspect the video from the onboard camera will be absolute rubbish, as most cheap short-link video is. It won't be much tactical use. As for using the iPhone in the field though - just get an Otterbox. Link to post Share on other sites
wideload Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 good luck getting that thing to fly in anything over 2mph winds! Link to post Share on other sites
JoachimV Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 I can has draganfly? http://www.draganfly.com/ Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 I can has price? I bet its gonna be helluva expensive piece of kit Link to post Share on other sites
frogfish Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 I think the dragonfly starts at around $7k USD. Really nice system though. Link to post Share on other sites
Arion Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 +1 with USMCorps. I see loads of applications. Where I play, my team typically plays milsim style: we've got comms, lowcaps and we ACTUALLY try to follow SOP in moving, firing, etc. The other team just sprays wildly with hi-caps and camps behind bushes/walls for hours, waiting for you to passby to take a potshot from 2m with their hi-cap fed-450fps-innacurate-blaster. It's really a PITA when you're constantly the team that is playing dynamic and actually taking the risks in progressing, etc. while the other A-holes are just waiting... wow what a great example of their technical ability and combat superiority (which makes me totally understand the frustration of fellow soldiers battling it out in Astan/Iraq... but that's another subject). P.S.: don't see me as a sour loser. My team still kicks their *albatross* 2/3 of the time. It's just not very interesting games. Anyways, if this little piece of hardware can enable me to moniter the battlefield, it could seriously turn the tables. I could spot all the little MOFOs camping and tell my team about it and direct effective force application. Battlefield awareness rules! Everyone is talking about how it would be useless because you have to lug it around, set it up, fly it, land it back and then react. Guys, no. That's not how you do it. With this little UAV, I would get off the battlefield entirely. I'd stay in safezone behind a swivel chair with my Comtac II and play drone operator, flying the thing full-time and feeding back instant intelligence to the boots on the ground! Limitations? Money, range, flight-time, being shot down. Not it's inherent tactical application to airsoft. P.P.S.: if the thing can fly high enough, and if its audible signature is weak, being a small object, it could be flown around relatively stealthily in such a way that the Opfor can't really spot it (they would have to squint at the sky continuously) and even if they did, altitude and speed would make it a little bit difficult to shoot down. Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 you're missingthe maximum 8 min flytime, and 50m range, so once your team has advanced 50m its suddenly becomes pointless as you can't control it, and 50m is not a long way. Not even in an airsoft game. Link to post Share on other sites
ollie_ty Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 50m range, so once your team has advanced 50m its suddenly becomes pointless as you can't control it, and 50m is not a long way. Not even in an airsoft game. What? Why wouldnt you be advancing aswell? Surely you'd be using this for a quick scan, then bringing it back to yourself, packing it up, and moving on. Link to post Share on other sites
frogfish Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Did you read the post before his, the guy was talking about being an information controller, sitting in the safe zone calling stuff out..... 50m and 8mins is ###### for what we need outside of "over the hill" surveillance. If you want to sit in the back and call stuff out this is not it. Link to post Share on other sites
Agent47 Posted January 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 This actually would be useful if you were sitting inside an area you had to defend, not exactly a safe zone though but you could use the drone as a second sentry. One game had us PMCs guarding a captured CIA operative and US SF (made of two actual airsoft team-mates/friends with experience) coming to grab him. We got smashed up pretty badly because the SF team got the drop on our scouts/skirmishers and they couldn't tell us where the SF team was. I spotted movement in the forest nearby and I tried calling them out but I could never get an exact fix on the SF team's position, and the sentries (who seemed to be pretty inexperienced) didn't want to go investigate because they could not confirm who was out there and we were short on manpower. In the end the SF team advanced on us from all sides but using only a single ring of attackers. Had a drone (or particularly daring scout player) been able to mark the opponent's position and harass them they we could have delayed their attack while waiting for General Cortez to pick us up. (game over PMC win) Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Its worth is still to be determined by the videofeed quality, I mean if its so bad you can't make out a guy in camo behind a wall, then it has no real worth at all, if it takes 5 mins of staring at the images to work out if its a guy or a amorphous blob that might be a guy. Link to post Share on other sites
LordElpus Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Its worth is still to be determined by the videofeed quality, I mean if its so bad you can't make out a guy in camo behind a wall, then it has no real worth at all, if it takes 5 mins of staring at the images to work out if its a guy or a amorphous blob that might be a guy. 640x480 15fps if you look at the specs on the website.. Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 seriously, am i the only person who would be concerned about my £400 iphone getting shot to *suitcase*? this is a stupid idea for airsoft. the tactical advantage would be pretty minimal IMO and there will no doubt be tears when people start finding 6mm holes in their expensive phone's screen. Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 holy double post batman! Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 getting shot is the best use of any apple product? I thought you could pick up hardcovers for the thing? Link to post Share on other sites
SpecialistR Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 getting shot is the best use of any apple product? I thought you could pick up hardcovers for the thing? +1 Is it that hard to stay out of the way of the action really? Find some cover,have a small team provide security and presto. Not for the individual minded folks though. Link to post Share on other sites
galactica Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 FFS hard covers are easy to find. If actual genuine in-theatre soldiers can use them, airsofters can find a way. I love how the "anti apple" dudes accuse iPhone owners of not "being individual", like they've spent their lives being totally unique users of windows, pocket pc etc. Priceless! Link to post Share on other sites
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