Unibomber Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 This is a review of the following: ---Bigdad's Custom PMAG (Airsoft-Barracks.com member - pm him to buy) ---STAR PMAG ---Magpul PTS PMAG (Includes side-by-side with real steel Magpul PMAG) Before you read this, I only have a Classic Army and KWA M4, so I can't say much for TM, ACM, etc. although CA and TM size are close to identical. ***As far as the side-by-side with the Real Steel PMAG, they are all shorter because the hop-up is lower than the bolt carrier in a real M4/M16. Bigdad's is the closest to the real thing because I believe he may have used a real shell Bigdad's PMAG 9/10 (modification required) Pros Best externals - with eyes closed can't tell difference between real-steel and this one Accurate trademarks Fake 5.56 rounds in the mag Feeds just fine Good Price (Bigdad sold to me for $10 each when I bought 10 mags) The_Gentleman - "Also worth noting: it appears that the outer shells of the PTS and Bigdad's are easily removable. It does not appear to be the case with the STAR (correct me if I am wrong" Cons DOES NOT FIT IN CLASSIC ARMY OR KWA M4's OUT OF THE BOX ***If the magazine actually fit and fed into an airsoft gun it would be a 10/10, might need to dremel for this one. Magpul PTS PMAG 7/10 (modification required for some AEG's) Pros Fits in Classic Army M4 2nd best externals - with eyes closed can barely tell difference between real-steel Accurate trademarks Feeds 100% on semi and auto (only in CA M4) The_Gentleman - "Also worth noting: it appears that the outer shells of the PTS and Bigdad's are easily removable. It does not appear to be the case with the STAR (correct me if I am wrong" Cons DOES NOT FIT IN KWA OUT OF THE BOX- modification required Very Expensive ***Originally tested this for use with my KWA M4 - may have to see if a dremel fixes the problem but not worth the price until a bulk package is available Star PMAG 7/10 Pros Fits in Classic Army and KWA M4's Feeds virtually perfectly in both brands Good price Cons Externals too shiny and slightly different from real-steel PMAG May be subject to breakage in time Dark Earth color is on the darker side if that matters ***Only mag available in a bulk package of 10 - all other mags are individually purchased WHY DON'T THE MAGS FIT?????? The very top nub on either side of the PMAG does not exist on the STAR version, and it seems this is why the other mags have trouble seating or even entering the magwell at all. This is what I need to dremel I think. Edit- as for fitting in the KWA a bit of sanding needs done on the backside lip as well but eventually it will fit! FOR FITTING A BIGDAD'S PMAG IN A KWA If you don't like the review scores I'm basing them on "out-of-the-box" score so HAH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 bigdad's main market is actually on ASF - you can find him there too. As for bigdad's PMAG's, I noticed even for a TM and STAR receiver it's a very bad fit. You'll have to grind off the 4 tabs up front then the 2 in the back. Any reports on feeding/shooting? I want to see how the 3 match up on that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Stena Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Tnx for the review. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordElpus Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 My PTS Pmag fits and feeds fine in a A&K M249 (with CA Hopup), JG HK416 and JG G36c (with Battleaxe M4 Magwell) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unibomber Posted January 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 bigdad's main market is actually on ASF - you can find him there too. As for bigdad's PMAG's, I noticed even for a TM and STAR receiver it's a very bad fit. You'll have to grind off the 4 tabs up front then the 2 in the back. Any reports on feeding/shooting? I want to see how the 3 match up on that. Yes I have told him about this and although he claims to be a low-ranking employee he is trying to let them know that everyone is having to modify them to fit their guns, and that these would sell alot better if they were ready out-of-the box Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Foxhound Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 (edited) Ive talked to a few people who used STAR and PTS and said the STAR ones where horrible compared to PTS. Star and PTS the same score? I disagree. I think my PTS ones where worth ever penny I payed, I'm sure other owners will agree. Edited January 25, 2010 by Mr Foxhound Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GnGArmament Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Anybody know if the PTS PMAG's will fit in a G&G SCAR receiver? I wanted to get a few dark earth PMAG's, but don't want to shell out 28$ just to discover they don't work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Foxhound Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Id wait for the PTS EMAGs. Those are made to fit SCARS and 416's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 My PMAG's I got from bigdad fit fine in my SCAR after the modifications. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unibomber Posted January 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Ive talked to a few people who used STAR and PTS and said the STAR ones where horrible compared to PTS. Star and PTS the same score? I disagree. I think my PTS ones where worth ever penny I payed, I'm sure other owners will agree. Honestly I based that score off the price - the RS PMAGS cost nearly half as much, which is almost laughable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordElpus Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Honestly I based that score off the price - the RS PMAGS cost nearly half as much, which is almost laughable. On the other hand real mags are somewhat simpler in design and PTS will probably have to pay something to MAGPUL to use the name on top of the R&D and manufacture costs. Whilst they are expensive, they are easier to get and/or better made than the alternatives. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mental Medic Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Hey Unibomber, what kind of Classic Army do you have? I have the newer LWRC and it appears that the magwell is bigger than most AEG's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 On the other hand real mags are somewhat simpler in design and PTS will probably have to pay something to MAGPUL to use the name on top of the R&D and manufacture costs. Whilst they are expensive, they are easier to get and/or better made than the alternatives. +1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigAl Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 You haven't mentioned the capacity either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 You haven't mentioned the capacity either. You mean the fact that although the ACM PMAGs are sold as 120 rounders they're more like 80 rounders, vs PTS's PMAGs which are true 120 rounders? Or how's about the fact that the PTS PMAGs fit most guns without modification, whereas the ACM PMAGs only fit a small handful of guns without modification. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
navymp28 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 I dunno about the other mags but the STAR ones are dissapointing. I am going to have to mod them to make them work. They don't feed for nothing and they have the tugged out of a DBOY receiver. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rainbow5ive Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 The fit and finish on my PTS Pmags are really nice and fit most of my guns except for a Guarder-bodied M4. Has anyone found that the springs inside are a bit weak? I left a couple loaded for 2 days and when i went to unload them, the remaining bbs sort of dribbled out. I fear this may cause misfeeding issues. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 My friend's PTS had hte same issue, but it was only the last 2 BB's that didn't feed. Hopefully this doesn't become a problem in the future Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reincarnation... Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 (edited) My friend's PTS had hte same issue, but it was only the last 2 BB's that didn't feed. If you ever open a PTS Pmag, you will notice that a section at the beginning of the feed tube is narrower when compared to the rest, thus 2-3 BBs would not feed at the end. I don't know if that was an intended doing or not. Edited February 24, 2010 by Reincarnation... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rainbow5ive Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 It's not the last 2-3bbs issue that most mags have, i had some mags that were 3/4 and 1/2 full. WHen i released them they all slowly came out, instead of shooting out like my MAG mids. Is there a way to completely disassemble the mag and stretch the spring? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GnGArmament Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Or how's about the fact that the PTS PMAGs fit most guns without modification, whereas the ACM PMAGs only fit a small handful of guns without modification. I thought it was the other way around? Anyways, my G&G SCAR's magwell is pretty loose is design, so I ordered a STAR PMAG just for the fun of it, and hoping that it will work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
luvs2shoot Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 I am looking to buying a couple of the Fake Magpul PMAGS from "bigdad" over at ASF. Can anyone comment on their fit with VFC SR15's? Any mods required? Thanks -Shin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 I am looking to buying a couple of the Fake Magpul PMAGS from "bigdad" over at ASF. Can anyone comment on their fit with VFC SR15's? Any mods required? Thanks -Shin They fit fine. I have found them not to feed as well over time though. The springs my not be up to the task. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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