Foxtrot Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Alright... I just picked up an Asahi M60E3 DX model. (W00t w00t... till I see my bank statement.. 1026 USD ) It's externally fed, basiclly Im trying to decide... Hpa system or CO2. I live in Ohio, USA, so it gets pretty cold around these parts. I'd like to maintain the choosen FPS (which ever it maybe) at any temp. Also, regulators. Which one is good? Basiclly.. the general information for hooking up an external rig is what I need. Thanks Fox Link to post Share on other sites
Antagon Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Congrats man! Who'd you pick it up from? Thats a nice price on an E3 With a support weapon, I'd use HPA, as you can use it in any temperature with ZERO change in output pressure, same goes for rapid fire. While I'd normally suggest you do a damn search Head over to www.classicairsoft.net and read the articles. Theyre very helpful. But in short, when looking for an HPA tank, 4500psi will give you twice the shots as a 3000psi tank. You want a Palmers Stablizer regulator, female model with optional Low Pressure Spring Kit, and 0-600 Guage (you replace the guage with a 0-300 one later, you're just paying for them to tap a hole for you) From there, you need the following. 6mm Hose (6-12 inches is prefect) 6mm Male Quick Disconnect 1/4in Female Quick Disconnect 1/4in Coiled hose 1/4in 1/8NPT push fitting Email Sniperx at sales@As4L.com and he'll hook you up with everything you need. I also suggest his mini regulator set for ultimate consistency. The above should only cost 30-35 without the mini reg set. Oh! And if you have the cash, ask Sniperx for an LRB, 180 bucks and it yeilds 100 yard range Anything else, just post. Link to post Share on other sites
Foxtrot Posted October 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Actually I picked it up from E-bay after seeing it on the Classic airsoft forums. Glad you think it's a nice price.. I wasn't real sure because I didn't research them alot, just saw it, saw it only had a few hours left and went for it. I know I should of search a bit - sorry, didn't find any defient answers on it though which you promptly cleared up. I was actually going to Pm/E-mail you about it. It seems like you answered all my questions as well as some more. I was thinking about the LRB, but I'm going to wait and see the range on it. I don't have alot of details on it right now, but I'll post pics/more questions when I recieve it in a couple of days. Does he have the tanks instock as well? Also.. how do I fill the Hpa tanks? Link to post Share on other sites
Antagon Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Who's the seller? CCIII? Glad to hear I can help, thats the whole reason I started posting here almost 2 years ago If you need a tank just head to a paintball or sporting goods store, the carbon fiber tanks are pretty much the defaults. Also check Ebay, great prices, although expect over 100 bucks for the tank. If you cant afford it, you could always go with a 20 dollar 20oz Co2 tank for now, and switch off later, since the Regulator works with both. Oh, and paintballers call them nitro tanks, but we use them with high pressure air. Filling HPA is as simple as going to a scuba shop, they fill them using giant scuba tanks, you can set up your own fill station, buuuut I havent ventured into HPA yet, so I cant be of too much help there. Man, if you're ever held a TOP M60 or M249, the second you pick up your E3 you will die, they're THAT good! But word to the wise, when you pull the cocking handle to load bbs, DONT pull it by the end rambo style, pull the handle from its base. Lastly, if you didnt know, the way to load bbs is you pull the cocking handle back once to load 30bbs into the preshoot chamber, then again to load the total 60, just do that every time you run out I know, i'm rambling... Link to post Share on other sites
Foxtrot Posted October 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 It's not that I don't have the money for the Hpa set up - it's just that I don't have too many scuba shops locally. Also, I already have x2 20oz tanks for CO2. So I'll e-mail sniperx tonight/tomorrow for it as well. I decided to go with the Asahi M60's due to the fact that TOP's internals are horrid. I've been dabbling in the support weapons game on and off, and just the pure... horridness of TOPS internals, and even the upgraded internals in the m60 and m249 series turned me off. I got to play with a JAC M733 over the weekend and that finallized my choice for me. Also, seeing the DX model made me want it even more. I'm not a classics moron but I am new to it, this being my first gun. And yes, that was the seller. My buddy's e-bay account is D_man, the winner of the gun. He won it, I payed for it Also about the gun since I didn't have alot of time to research. I pull the cocking handle for 30, then again for 60. And it will shoot all 60 before I have to pull it again, correct? Also, if I read this correctly (just gen. info on it) it holds bb's like the TOP m60 in a feed tray right? Link to post Share on other sites
Antagon Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Yes to your last 2 questions, pull the cocking handle twice, shoot off 60 rounds, reload When empty, pop up the top and pour em in. JAC DXs are excellent guns, I have one myself But man, if you like BV guns, wait till you get the cash for an ESCORT gun, like the Sun Project M16, Youth Engineering Mp5, or Shoei guns Especially that new M240...mmm... I must admit, you chose one of the finest airsoft guns ever crafted as your first (could've gone super DX, but, hehe), bold decision, but you I cannot hype this gun up enough. I suggest you head over to CA's forums, they're a friendly bunch, and will be MORE than willing to help with any questions, theres a bunch of M60 owners over there, just ask BBMagnet, he owns 3 or 4! Hehe, I seem to recall a thread last month where I recommended a classic and you politely said no thanks Mwuahaha, welcome to the end, my friend. EDIT: Jesus, why are my posts always so long.... Link to post Share on other sites
Foxtrot Posted October 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 I've always been interested... Also the new shoei M240 is catching my eye... you might see my m60 back on e-bay when it comes out Or just all my other airsoft guns. Actually im half tempted to sell all my current guns and change them all over to Classics depending how much I like this M60. Basiclly, It was my last choice, and I'm glad I made a good choice Cheers Fox Thanks a ton! Link to post Share on other sites
Antagon Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Hey no problem, that's all I'm here for anyways, lol. I may be visiting Shoei in January, maybe I can test out that M240 Oh! And Sniperx and Escort have been working on an AK47, full GBB, milled receiver, sure to replace your RPK Link to post Share on other sites
Foxtrot Posted October 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Dun got that much money How do you feel about nitro? I've heard it has benfits as well.. Also.. do you know if like.. west marine or some place like that fills Hpa? Link to post Share on other sites
Antagon Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 The AK is only gonna cost around 800, and it'll use TM parts, so you can put your RPK kit on it Oh, and it'll take TM mags! Never heard of anyone using Nitro in the airsoft world, it must be unpopular for a reason though. Never heard of west marine, try Big 5, Sport Challet, places like that Link to post Share on other sites
Foxtrot Posted October 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 I found a dive shop about 20 miles from me, so It looks like ill be going the HPA way. Just a question. For some reason if I couldn't get my Hpa tank filled, could I use CO2 for that day since its more avabile for me? would it have any adverse effects of switching from one to another? Also, for the Hpa Tanks - just at any *decent* paintball shop correct? Link to post Share on other sites
Tripod Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Sorry to go off topic, Antagon when is that AK supposed to be coming out? Is it going to be a readily available gun? Link to post Share on other sites
Antagon Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Foxtrot, You can switch from one to the other no problem Just ask the person at the paintball shop, and theyll tell you which one to get, just remember the old rule, you get what you pay for. Tripod, prototype should be in this month, it keeps getting pushed back. But I wouldnt say readily available as in mass produced, theyll all be hand made, so expect very low numbers, lower than Shoei's run on their WWII MGs. Link to post Share on other sites
Tripod Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Alright thanks! Just sounded interesting. Think I read it on CA forums before. Link to post Share on other sites
Antagon Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Well he said it'll hopefully kick like the Shoei Mp44, and if you've ever fired that thing.....God help us all Link to post Share on other sites
Banzai Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 I haven seen Antagon post so much in a single forum for a long time, he is like al orgasmic and like a littel kid all over again assisting with this classic hehe Link to post Share on other sites
Tripod Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 I saw one in AEX. Haha I asked if I could touch it...they said no =(. I guess that's why I'm so negative towards them haha. It really is a shame that AEGs replaced the classics. Link to post Share on other sites
Penguin Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Woah you just caught my eye with talk of an M240 I've never heard of that before...where could I get some more info? Link to post Share on other sites
Foxtrot Posted October 13, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Has any one heard more about Sun Projects re-releasing their m16? Link to post Share on other sites
Antagon Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Tripod, saw one what at AEX? Penguin, it'll be full metal, EXTREME blow back (nothing like normal GBBs), and will be anywhere from 1200-1700 USD. Foxtrot, little late my friend, they rereleased them a few months ago! 200 made in this final run. Check DenT and GunsNGuys, they MAY have some left at around 500-530 after shipping. They take TM magazines too! If they dont have them, Sniperx sells his tuned models for 800 I believe. He also has brand new, hand made YE Mp5s for 850. Link to post Share on other sites
Tripod Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 An MP44. I don't know if it was AEG, model or GBB though. Still looked nice! Link to post Share on other sites
AustinWolv Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Foxtrot, funny stuff, I was considering bidding on that very M60. Was talking to SniperX a bit about it, but with the amount of skirmishing I do, I'm just not sure I want to get into classics......refilling CO2 would run me an additional $8 every weekend based on 2 20oz tanks. Then, there is the HPA method, but that sounds like kind of a pain...... That Shoei M240 is sound awfully tempting though. I'll be interested to hear your take on the HPA route and if you think it is worthwhile, especially for someone who can get to 2000-3000 rounds on a single skirmish day, and even up to 7000 rounds for a full-day's op. BTW, your former RPK is still serving me well. It is gaining a reputation. That and I picked up another one recently....brand friggin' new and absolute pristine/beautiful. Link to post Share on other sites
Foxtrot Posted October 14, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Hey dude! Glad to hear that about my RPK. If you ever feel the need to sell it, keep me in mind Always looking for a good rpk. Yeah the m240 cought my eye too, I think it's just a tad too big/heavy for me in general. But we'll see when it comes out. And yeah, I'll tell you about the HPa set up when I get it, first thing I'll probably do is see how many rounds I can put through a tank before having to refill. Cheers Fox Link to post Share on other sites
Penguin Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Ok...you've got me all excited... Any other info you could give me? Release date? Retailer that will be offering it? Also I have no experience with classic guns so I'm lost. Will the M240 be running off of green gas then I gotta change it over to CO2 or HPA or what? What kinda mag is it going to be run off of? I know you post on Classic Airsoft, I just made a thread over there about LMGs in general but you're quickly limiting me to this one only. LOL Thanks for all the help Link to post Share on other sites
Antagon Posted October 14, 2004 Report Share Posted October 14, 2004 Retailers should be the usual, GnG, DenT, WGC, etc etc. Release date is prolly pretty far off, because they're working on an FG42 as well, which has been known long before the 240. It runs on exteral air only, and it'll most likely has a reservoir where you pour in bbs. Link to post Share on other sites
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