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H&S = health and safety. here, they worry about EVERYTHING.

Not true.

 

A bit of a misunderstanding.

 

Every body forgets that 'H&S', is actually 'The Health & Safety at WORK act '74 revised '89/'92 etc'. The clue is in the name, it's all geared around the protection of employees while at WORK. You know the sort of things that used to happen back in the '70's, kids up chimneys etc.

 

It's remit does not extend beyond that. In fact, H&S@WORK & the European legislation that now guides it, are specifically geared, NOT to impede or curtail the rights or activities of an individual in their own time.

 

Unfortunately, the UK nanny state, has become obsessed with H&S (at WORK), using it as an excuse to make a few quid ("have you been involved in an accidentat work?" :huh: ) & thus over burocurise & curtail, any thing remotely risky.

 

The truth is, there is nothing to stop you doing what ever you like, no matter how potentially dangerous, as long as no one is 'at work'.

 

Yes, that's right, you can tie a bungee round your ankle & jump out of your window right now & H&S can't say a thing,,,,,,,, unless it's part of your job :huh: .

 

 

Greg.

 

& now my rant:

 

It's ironic, that the risks of any activity remain the same, whether you get paid to do them or not. Some legislation requires many hours of training & expensive protective equipment to do 'work', that you can do with no protective equipment or training, in your spare time. :blink:

 

For example, since the introduction of W.A.H.R. (WORKING at height regs, '05), it is now illegal (in Europe & the UK) to make a living, cleaning windows off a ladder. Yes, I know you still see window cleaners doing it but it is now illegal & they are being prosecuted. Wahr states that a ladder must not be 'worked from'. It is not cnsidered 'a safe working platform' & can only be used to access a safe working platform, from which work can be done. However, if you want to clean your own windows or your neighbors, free of charge, on the dodgyest, oldest rickety ladder in the world, even if you are a blind epileptic, with one arm, a dodgy ankle & no sense of balance,,,,,,,,,,,, go ahead, feel free, there is nothing anyone can do to stop you! :(

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Not true.

 

A bit of a misunderstanding.

 

Every body forgets that 'H&S', is actually 'The Health & Safety at WORK act '74 revised '89/'92 etc'. The clue is in the name, it's all geared around the protection of employees while at WORK. You know the sort of things that used to happen back in the '70's, kids up chimneys etc.

 

It's remit does not extend beyond that. In fact, H&S@WORK & the European legislation that now guides it, are specifically geared, NOT to impede or curtail the rights or activities of an individual in their own time.

What about things like the H&S criterias for airsoft sites for example? Technically paying customers are doing so on their own time. Or is it not H&S but rather, the insurance companies who're the ones making a ruckus?

 

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What about things like the H&S criterias for airsoft sites for example? Technically paying customers are doing so on their own time. Or is it not H&S but rather, the insurance companies who're the ones making a ruckus?

Well, what 'things'?

 

 

H+S@Work, will obviously cover the event organisers & their employees.

 

As an 'organised event', there are legal requirements, depending on how many folk are on site. Things like toilets, food & first aid provision are required once you exceed a certain amount of paying customers. & there is legislation & 'guide lines' regarding the provision of these things.

 

There are also certain 'expectations' that a paying customer can, erm, 'expect'. This is consumer law & in terms of an airsoft event, kind of means, that you can expect very little. Other than a muddy car park & someone to shoot at. However, these days, it would be reasonable to expect that the organisers would know where the nearest hospital is & the quickest way to get you medical attention, should it be needed.

 

3rd party liability, (the 'insurance') covers the eventuality that a non-participating member of the general public wanders onto the site, & through the fault of the organisers, comes to some physical harm, or sustains damage or loss.

 

Getting an insurance company to cover anything else, is virtually impossible, as you would have to be mad to 'cover' the participants or equipment, at an airsoft event. Although strangely, individual insurances such as 'personal accident', 'household' or even an annual 'travel' policy, should cover most individual's eventualities, unless specifically excluded. ;)

 

'Insurance', is not a legal requirement, but a way to 'legitimise' your site as 'responsible', in the eyes of the law. Example, vcra does not recognise a site as legitimate, unless they have 'insurance'.

 

The insurance companies will base the premium on the risk that a claim will be made. They may request, that certain things are done to reduce this risk. Such as a safety briefing including what to do if a member of the public is seen on site, possibly a risk assessment (probably not, as they aren't covering participants) & checking the perimeter fencing, to ensure there are no holes, thus no one can get in & there will be no claims. :D These requirements can be generic or specific, but evidence must be provided that they are done, to ensure cover is provided.

 

Insurance will not pay out if any illegal activities are being carried out at the time of an incident. It is illegal to throw fireworks (pyro) in the general direction of a person & it is illegal to shoot at someone with an air rifle (airsoft gun over 380fps).

 

So, as long as there are no pyro or sniper rifles, thus no illegal activities, the insurance will pay out......................... If a stranger walks onto the site & is hurt/sustains a loss, as a direct consequence of something the organisers did.

 

Remember this only applies to an 'organised event' that any member of the public can attend. Make it 'private', ie 'members only' & you can do what you like. ;)

 

Erm, I've probably missed something....................................... surely it can't be that easy?

 

Oh yes, any requirements set down by the landlords. This would be about looking after their interests, so usually things like damage to property or keeping the area tidy. Possibly 'eco friendly' bbs, no tree climbing, no fires or broken windows, you know the sort of thing.

 

 

Greg.

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H+S

 

My way of describing any thing Health and Safety is this.

 

'You can even watch a porn film without someone from Health and Safety worrying, you know in case you die from a heart attack during a good tug'.

 

Basically that.

 

;)

 

Anywho back on topic and i must say, not funny at all to be honest, nice to see here having a go but not really funny.

 

'FireKnife'

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i am not exactly known for being politically correct......

 

watching a fat bird flailing about in the air IS funny.

it is even funnier with the knowledge that they required a jetski to get her to move fast enough

it is EVEN funnier that she broke the ramp

 

the only thing missing from the sound was shouts of "THAR SHE BLOWS" and "HARPOON THAT WHALE"

 

still..... if i was pi**ed and she got me another pint, i'd still wanna nail her!

 

 

### enter the fun police and the PC gistapo ###

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