Kipper Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) I think a lot of people are surprised it's silver of all things. Assuming you didn't know it was silver, I suppose you'd be mighty ###### off. I wouldn't want a bright silver flash hider regardless of its ability to reduce recoil, looks like someone went mad when cleaning it. Edited June 10, 2009 by Kipper Link to post Share on other sites
rws591 Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Every gun needs a little bling. KAC's play to the "hood" crowd? Link to post Share on other sites
Titleist Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Assuming you didn't know it was silver, I suppose you'd be mighty ###### off. I wouldn't want a bright silver flash hider regardless of its ability to reduce recoil, looks like someone went mad when cleaning it. Nope we thought it'd be black. We thought the prototypes were silver. Frankly when it gets used it turns gray from carbon build up. I'm not annoyed at all. But I wish it'd been black. Link to post Share on other sites
Whan Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 I rather like the weird; It's a unique shade and looks, well, unique. But that's just me, and I see your point Kipper. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 That KAC muzzle brake makes me weak in the knees. *Swoon*! Titleist, after how many rounds are you supposed to clean it? And I'm assuming most people's brakes will be permanently (or at least semi-permanently) attached ... so would that mean you'd have to have the entire gun (or at least the upper) nose down with the brake in the cleaning fluid on a somewhat regular basis? Link to post Share on other sites
Titleist Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 I don't have the Triple Tap Brake here yet, shipped off from Florida today, also from this point in I'm going to just refer to it as the TTB. Remember that the TTB is meant to interface with the NT4 suppressor, hence the notch built in (not sure if the airsoft ones have that). Because of that you have to properly index and rocksett the brake. As you saw in the picture of the full package, you get a shim kit. Once you tighten it down without the shims you can figure out which shim is required to index it to the right position. Like the AAC flashhiders you then use rockset. Which is a high temp thread locker, though it's not permanent, a good overnight soak in water will brake it down enough to muscle it off. Basically you clean it when the vents become clogged up. If you've seen pics of Costa using his rifle at the Vicker's class you've seen the fireball it makes when clogged. But from what I've heard the best bet is to soak the muzzle in carbon remover, then you actually use the extra shims they give you to clean out the slots. This is all speculation, and I can scan the manual when it arrives for anyone interested. Link to post Share on other sites
RUSHER2 Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) Slight update, turns out the full production Inconel muzzle brakes are silver, not black. Ive always loved those dust covers my dad has 2 of them on his AR's! I also would liked that knights flash hider to be atleast black. who wants bling on the end of there guns? Edited June 10, 2009 by RUSHER2 Link to post Share on other sites
Titleist Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 I do, i do! I'd like black, but silver will suffice. I bought mine for the muzzle jump reduction and recoil reduction, rather than looks. Link to post Share on other sites
RUSHER2 Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 I do, i do! I'd like black, but silver will suffice. I bought mine for the muzzle jump reduction and recoil reduction, rather than looks. Well its always work over looks right? Give us a nice small review when you get it! i wanna know how much recoil is changed with it :] might look into one. Link to post Share on other sites
Titleist Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 If I do it'll be in the real steel thread. That said, unless you ever plan to run a real NT4 suppressor, I'd probably say there are just as good of brakes on the market. Anyways, I'll get pics when it comes in. Link to post Share on other sites
Magsz Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 If I do it'll be in the real steel thread. That said, unless you ever plan to run a real NT4 suppressor, I'd probably say there are just as good of brakes on the market. Anyways, I'll get pics when it comes in. KAC wont warranty the suppressor or comp should something happen. They dont want the people buying these things to run them with suppressors since the brake itself was designed to be a sacrificial blast baffle if i understand what KevB was saying. Even with the suppressor moderately clean these things put out huge fireballs, most comps do its kind of unavoidable. As far as the effectiveness of this thing as a comp, yeah its pretty awesome. 437 dollars awesome? Probably not but its definitely up there in the top 3 comps and might very well be the best comp ever produced but i cant quantify that statement with facts since no one has really done any recoil comparison testing between comps. Link to post Share on other sites
gerrysnaps Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Remember that the TTB is meant to interface with the NT4 suppressor, hence the notch built in (not sure if the airsoft ones have that). Because of that you have to properly index and rocksett the brake. As you saw in the picture of the full package, you get a shim kit. Once you tighten it down without the shims you can figure out which shim is required to index it to the right position. Like the AAC flashhiders you then use rockset. Which is a high temp thread locker, though it's not permanent, a good overnight soak in water will brake it down enough to muscle it off. I just got my "non-inconel TTB" in and no, there is no notch. This is the King Arms 2005 Knights Type M4 FH, but I think G&P and the other replicas to date are the same. Not real but at least it's in black, heh! I'll take the pic of my revised build soon, just needed to attach the new bits. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 I have several different airsoft TTBs from various different manufacturers, and the only one of those that I have that features the suppressor notch is the TTB that came with my VFC KAC PDW. If VFC made more of those TTBs, I'd buy several from them as they're a fair bit nicer in quality ... and are compatible with the VFC suppressors. Link to post Share on other sites
Titleist Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 KAC wont warranty the suppressor or comp should something happen. They dont want the people buying these things to run them with suppressors since the brake itself was designed to be a sacrificial blast baffle if i understand what KevB was saying. It absolutely WILL work, the reason they don't warranty it is because on full auto the heat could make it mushroom inside the NT4. However with their internal testing they found it works just fine under normal use. Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Right, No more pictures or discussion about real-steel firearms. Link to post Share on other sites
Althis Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 i decided i wanted to make my URX secure without having the anchor it to the upper receiver with my scope mount so i searched online for the real KAC installation guide and to prevent it from unscrewing they actually used loctite, so i used it on the threads while screwing it on and it isn't going to come off unless there is some major force behind it =) Link to post Share on other sites
Whan Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Well, you could also tighten it with a huge amount of force, and then mount an Aimpoint T-1 so that it's between the reciever rail and the URX (sort of like a ris-fix) Link to post Share on other sites
Titleist Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 (edited) i searched online for the real KAC installation guide There will be no talking of things related to real firearms. Didn't you get the memo?! Edited June 13, 2009 by Titleist Link to post Share on other sites
Althis Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Well, you could also tighten it with a huge amount of force, and then mount an Aimpoint T-1 so that it's between the reciever rail and the URX (sort of like a ris-fix) that's what i had been doing before but i decided i wanted it to be able to stand by itself without the micro connecting it Titleist: sorry lol Link to post Share on other sites
Titleist Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 (edited) Althis, I was kidding. I won't start a pissing match with another mod, I'll just take my real KAC guns and share the info elsewhere. Edited June 13, 2009 by Titleist Link to post Share on other sites
Althis Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 i knew you were kidding =P it's just hard to relay tones and such over the internet Link to post Share on other sites
Ascendance610 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Any VFC SR16 owners know how to tighten up the wobbly ambi fire selector? Its eating away at me. Link to post Share on other sites
Vercingetorix Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 The hex head screw? Link to post Share on other sites
rws591 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 The US distributor says that if you tighten it, eventually you will have to replace it every so often. It works with the wobble, and while the wobble does suck, at least it works. Link to post Share on other sites
Ascendance610 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 (edited) My VFC SR16 16" Currently have an M3 + LaRue SPR mount on the way. Edited June 13, 2009 by Ascendance610 Link to post Share on other sites
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