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Troll; LPE was doing these back in 2010, is based in the UK and offers postage rates on items that are 2nd to none. (i would also rather give my money to a UK company then any overseas - but you try that with other items and you find its almost impossible)

 

If you don't like the price thats fine but go elsewhere with your trolling; it's not welcome on these forums.

 

You post adds nothing to this thread other then to derail it (much like my own)

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Troll; LPE was doing these back in 2010, is based in the UK and offers postage rates on items that are 2nd to none. (i would also rather give my money to a UK company then any overseas - but you try that with other items and you find its almost impossible)

 

If you don't like the price thats fine but go elsewhere with your trolling; it's not welcome on these forums.

 

You post adds nothing to this thread other then to derail it (much like my own)

I added something that could have saved anyone in U.S. money(when money is involved; you know hs5 is probably going to do another run).

 

Not everyone have U.K. bias(such as myself; UK company or US company or even Chinese company...my money went to capitalists' hand and I am not happy about paying any of them more than I should have).

 

If you are going to believe in Capitalism; free market and all that stuff...mentioning a cheaper alternative to LPE(which you are mad about because he does not ship outside U.S. directly and you would have missed the order anyway) is pretty much on-topic. If nothing else, LPE now knows there are possible competitors on the market(perhaps better price will happen later).

 

Or do you think everyone on this forum is from UK and elsewhere in the world but U.S.?

 

Calling someone a troll does not count as insult if he is indeed trolling; and in this case I was simply saying that LPE is overpriced per unit wise(perhaps to make up for the great shipping fee of 1.5 pounds).

£1.50 is what's the phrase rob used "any order size" IE one, two, THREE, four, five seventy-twelve...

As if anyone is going to buy that many(especially at that price).

 

Single unit wise; LPE loses on price.

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You still don't get it ? - it's like going into a for sale thread and saying i can get x cheaper in this shop etc - it's not the done thing here.

 

No i don't think everyone is from the UK - but this is a UK based forum and as such it's user based is primary UK players.

 

LPE primary market is the UK; thats not to say he hasn't sold items around the world but thats not where Robs aim is (i think; don't hold me to it)

 

Mad over some one that would not ship to the UK ???? erm I don't give a rats *albartroth* and I wasn't even aware some one else was making these other then LPE - so how can i be mad over something i know nothing of.....

 

And why should LPE lower his prices for some cheapskate airsofter who cares not for a quality product but rather what it costs him in beer tokens - thats not me; and quiet a few other people are learning you need to pay for a quality product.

 

End of the day the price LPE charges for these cans is what i call resonable for what they are (i remember not long ago i could have paid over £100 for something close but not quiet the same) - it's not cheap but neither is it so bloody expensive that i won't get one :P

 

Either way your post still does not add anything to this thread

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If you are going to believe in Capitalism; free market and all that stuff...mentioning a cheaper alternative to LPE(which you are mad about because he does not ship outside U.S. directly and you would have missed the order anyway) is pretty much on-topic. If nothing else, LPE now knows there are possible competitors on the market(perhaps better price will happen later).

 

Next time I have to read some random tripe about capitalism I'm permanently banning you.

 

I don't go into every single China/Hong Kong-made product thread and start spouting off about Communism. You've received enough warnings, and it's getting bloody annoying to read constantly.

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You still don't get it ? - it's like going into a for sale thread and saying i can get x cheaper in this shop etc - it's not the done thing here.

 

No i don't think everyone is from the UK - but this is a UK based forum and as such it's user based is primary UK players.

 

LPE primary market is the UK; thats not to say he hasn't sold items around the world but thats not where Robs aim is (i think; don't hold me to it)

 

Mad over some one that would not ship to the UK ???? erm I don't give a rats *albartroth* and I wasn't even aware some one else was making these other then LPE - so how can i be mad over something i know nothing of.....

This is a news thread, not a sales thread. Posting it would not make LPE sell less(if UK is indeed the primary market) and if anything, it will make people NOT ask LPE for carbonfiber fake suppressor in longer length(of course there are people who wants those).

And if seller gets mad because a lower priced alternative is given...now you know who is charging for too much dosh.

No politics(because someone is mad even when I am not bashing a certain form of government) but this is a free market, not to mention there are many factors that makes hs5's run of carbonfiber mock suppressor actually not directly compete with LPE product.

 

I offered it as alternative for players in U.S. who may want a longer carbonfiber supprssor(at cheaper price, even if quality is less, which is not going to happen since it is hs5 product, it will still be well worth it in practical standpoint). If you still cannot see that then keep replying.

 

And that is the point; I am posting these for players in U.S.... it has nothing to do with you, why are you so mad?

 

You are mad because now you know(and even if you get someone else to ship it to you in UK, it will be cheaper if 20% off is not there, not to mention lighter and you have choice of longer lengths) there is cheaper alternative(and more selection) and the parts you believed to be holy grail(of course a certain company back in the day offered to sell Carbonfiber fake suppressors for around 100 usd or something but discontinued it, LPE would look like the holy grail for lightweight gbb pistol suppressors due to lower cost and availability) is actually not best(not saying LPE products are not great, if I ever need V3 airbrake instead of sorbo pad I would buy from LPE).

 

It is okay and I understand; there are things one may feel that knowing makes him feel worse(such as when I finally learned that cheap airsoft guns are waste of money).

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Too expensive.

That's a matter of opinion, different people have different perceived values of what is too expensive, to anyone in the United States they will be more expensive than the Hs5 offering due to the exchange rates which I have no control over, for a lot of countries though the LPE carbon fibre suppressors are cheaper than the Hs5 offering would have been.

 

Just outright saying it's too expensive is pretty stupid really.

 

Plus a carbon fiber front cap so it will be even lighter, and cheaper.

A carbon fibre front cap doesn't mean it'll be lighter.

 

Here is a lesson in materials for you, it's not what you use it's what you do with it.

 

The front cap in mine is machined from a bar of heat treated aircraft grade aluminium, it weighs less than 2g, a carbon fibre one could easily weigh the same or more depending on the design of it.

 

The threaded cap is also made from the same aluminium and threads into another aluminium insert which is bonded into the body using the same type of resin as used in the Aerospace industry to ensure strength and long term durability, far more durable than threading directly into the carbon fibre body would have been and also doing it the way I chose to allowed the use of an insanely thin-walled carbon fibre tube without compromising strength at all.

 

Do not care.

 

Not to mention hs5's project got started in about one month.

http://forums.airsoftmechanics.com/index.php/topic,6556.0.html

Why try and use postage as an argument then say you don't care when it's pointed out that it's cheaper than $7? Seems a very immature attitude to take.

 

I'm not really sure what you mean about his project getting started in about one month though, the LPE version has been on the market for nearly 2 years and took a while to get on sale due to the design being refined and improved before the production run.

 

If nothing else, LPE now knows there are possible competitors on the market(perhaps better price will happen later).

 

I was simply saying that LPE is overpriced per unit wise(perhaps to make up for the great shipping fee of 1.5 pounds).

I was already aware of the Hs5 offering and it is not going to have any effect on the price of the LPE versions, the price of manufacturing the current stock can't be changed so the RRP is set and won't change, even so competitors won't change the price because there have always been a large amount of alternatives for someone in the market for a suppressor.

 

The price of other suppressors on the market had no bearing on the setting of the price on these, the price was set by the cost of manufacturing which was in effect determined by the decision to make a suppressor to a standard and not a price.

 

Simply the LPE carbon fibre suppressors have been made to a high standard, the aluminium parts are CNC machined in a UK factory that provides great working conditions by experienced machine programmers and operators who are paid a fair wage, the carbon fibre body was made specially (not off the shelf as the Hs5 one probably is) to order to custom specifications by a composite specialist that usually manufactures for the Aerospace and sports (including Formula one) industry which results in a lighter weight body than simply buying off the shelf tubing would have provided and also avoided the horrid shiny laquer that is generally found on stock tubing, there is no shiny reflective finish to be found on the LPE suppressors.

 

The retail price has been kept as low as possible, to make them to the standard that I demand and pay production staff a fair wage is expensive and there is little that can be done to change that.

 

On the note of the price being high to compensate for the low postage cost it is simply not true.

 

I have recently moved to a new website, the postage cost to anyone outside of the UK on the old website was £3.00, the retail price of the suppressors was £60.

 

Now the RRP is still £60, currently they have a 20% discount and the postage cost has been reduced to £1.50 even though the actual cost to me of posting a suppressor outside of the UK has risen by 82% as of the 30th April 2012.

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^I was being retarded and did not read carefully enough; and my edits did not go through.

 

Great to hear about effort put into these suppressors.

 

Now you still do not have 200mm and 300mm ones; any plans for those?

 

As for weight, we will see once someone actually weighted his final product.

 

And after reading: end cap material was just a choice between more or less weight(sure you can machine some aluminum, but does the benefit outweigh the cost?)

 

Alternatives for carbon fiber fake suppressor has been...almost non-existent until recently(laylax was not even a feasible option).

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It is okay and I understand; there are things one may feel that knowing makes him feel worse.

No idea why you think it'd make me feel worse, what would be more of a concern to me is that it's possible to pick up a cheap (and poor quality at that, I know, I've handled them) suppressor for $8.

 

The Laylax one was a very poor attempt, they were too big to really be viable for pistols and when you actually look at the design it's just an aluminium suppressor with a carbon fibre (again, what looks to be cheap stock laquered tubing) slid over the outside, if they were really interested in low weight they'd have left the carbon off or made a true carbon fibre bodied suppressor.

 

As for Hs5, as far as I can tell they were just limited runs and they don't look that impressive at all to me, if he decides to do more then good luck to him as I'm very confident in saying that for a GBB pistol mine is still the best option performance wise and his don't match the quality, design, function, appearance or long term durability that mine offer, and if he has indeed used typical off the shelf tubing which is pretty much certain that the body will weigh a lot more.

 

In terms of longer versions I have no plans currently to do anything longer than 188mm should I produce another batch of them which currently is uncertain.

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Product quality aside, EU taxes makes it more feasable to buy from UK for us.

Here's the costs laid out for Denmark:

Product tax: 3%

Sales tax: 25%

Duty office handling fee: 30$

 

A 67$ product ends up costing 115$.

In comparison, a similar LPE suppresor costs 75$.

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I remember holding one of the LPE suppressors in hand - it's ludicrously light, barely even there, and looks *fruitcage* amazingly sexy.

 

I'd love to buy one, but now I just need to figure out whether I should go with CCW or CW. If only you could swap the threading. :(

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I should have a few extra 14mm CW caps which I can list for sale if you're after the option of switching between CCW and CW, they'd probably be about £12 as an extra.

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www.leesprecision.co.uk/external-parts/superlight-carbon-fibre-suppressor-128mm-14mm-ccw.html

www.leesprecision.co.uk/external-parts/cnc-machined-suppressor-cap-14mm-cw.html

 

There you go, just order the two together and you're sorted :)

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In order to help fund the purchase of a new machine and tooling these have been reduced in price by a massive 50% while stocks last, no more are going to be manufactured in the future so get one while you can at this ridiculously low price.

 

Foam filled versions were £60, now just £30.00

Empty versions were £55, now just £27.50

 

14mm CW and 14mm CCW available, 16mm thread adapters available at a discounted price when bought with a suppressor.

 

Shipping is £1.80 flat rate for anywhere in the world, please note I can ship foam filled versions outside the UK but would suggest purchasing a version without foam in if laws restrict foam filled suppressors.

 

Available from LeesPrecision.co.uk

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For those of you with a pistol threaded in 16mm CW I am re-releasing the 16mm versions of these suppressors in a very limited quantity (Only 25 produced) which are now available for pre-order, full details can be found by following the link below.

 

http://www.leesprecision.co.uk/superlight-carbon-fibre-suppressor-14mm-cw-16mm-cw.html

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