GuzziHero Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Scenario: Jack goes quail hunting before school, pulls into school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack. 1957 – Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack’s shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack. 2007 – School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers. Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school. 1957 – Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies. 2007 – Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark. Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it. Scenario: Jeffrey won’t be still in class, disrupts other students. 1957 – Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by the Principal. Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again. 2007 – Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested for ADD. School gets extra money from state because Jeffrey has a disability. Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his neighbor’s car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt. 1957 – Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman. 2007 – Billy’s dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang. State psychologist tells Billy’s sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy’s mom has affair with psychologist. Scenario: Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school. 1957 – Mark shares aspirin with Principal out on the smoking dock. 2007 – Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons. Scenario: Pedro fails high school English. 1957 – Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college. 2007 – Pedro’s cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against state school system and Pedro’s English teacher. English banned from core curriculum. Pedro given diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English. Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from 4th of July, puts them in a model airplane pain t bottle, blows up a red ant bed. 1957 – Ants die. 2007 – BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called. Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, FBI investigates parents, siblings removed from home, computers confiscated, Johnny’s Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again. Scenario: Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him. 1957 – In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing. 2007 – Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy. Link to post Share on other sites
bbondaloose Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Words of truth. I'm only 17 now, but I've lived in Korea for 9 years as a youngling, and a lot of things written up there for 1957 common with what I remember from being in elementary school in Korea. I remember if you were late from coming back from recess, you got a couple of smacks on your hand with a ruler. Someone stole something, everyone emptied their bags out on the desk, and after, everyone was punished. Students don't DARE talk back to the teachers unless you want a hella of paddling, AND when your parents are informed, you won't be able to even sit right for a week. I think that's why I always get so inflamed when a teenager curses out an adult in my high school, or backtalks, because I've grown up to respect adults. Which I see is lacking is MANY of the kids in my generation. Damn shame. Link to post Share on other sites
spetsnazdave87 Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 sadly too true to be funny Link to post Share on other sites
Desolation mkII Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Basically: This is what the best case scenario in the 1950s would be comparred to the absolute worst case scenario in the 2007. Link to post Share on other sites
FireKnife Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Basically: This is what the best case scenario in the 1950s would be comparred to the absolute worst case scenario in the 2007. Well done. And we are deriving Humour from that, hence Humour and Jokes section. 'FireKnife' Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Heh, I was watching that thing on telly with the woman who sorts out stroppy kids. The voice-over was busy explaining how little Bobby (or whatever) had been diagnosed with ADHD and was driving his family nuts. Camera cuts to little Bobby engrossed in playing with his X-Box until his mum tries to put him to bed. She takes the X-Box controller off him and he goes into meltdown. So that's ADHD is it? If so, how come the little git can happily perch in front of the TV and focus on playing with his X-Box without any problem? That's not ADHD, it's a spoilt brat who's used to getting his own way. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Under the symptoms bit of the wiki entry for ADHD it says; "Become bored with a task after only a few minutes, unless they are doing something enjoyable" So that, perhaps. Link to post Share on other sites
GuzziHero Posted February 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 That sounds like... 'normality'. Who CAN concentrate on something they dont like? But no, these days, doing mundane chores that you dont like is a medical problem... Link to post Share on other sites
Seraphim989 Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 No, ADD and ADHD definitely exist. I have a friend who sometimes can't even focus long enough to hear an entire sentence. Link to post Share on other sites
GuzziHero Posted February 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Not saying they dont. But being disinterested in tasks which one dislikes is in itself not a disability. In the US its just an excuse to drug kids into submission. Link to post Share on other sites
Ionic Gorilla Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 No, ADD and ADHD definitely exist. I have a friend who sometimes can't even focus long enough... I'm sorry, what did you say? Link to post Share on other sites
AceOfSkulls Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Scenario: Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him. 1957 – In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing. 2007 – Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy. NICE . cool post to be honest all except the gun one could be called 90's - 00's. as for ADD/ADHD, wether it exists or not (personally probably not to the degree beleived). Ritalin is one hell of a drug! You too would be *fruitcage*ed up if you took those things 3 times a day. Link to post Share on other sites
Panoptes Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 ADHD/ADD whatever. Bullsh*t excuse for a lack of parental discipline.... Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 And you can treat someone with depression by telling them to just cheer up Link to post Share on other sites
Panoptes Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Clinical depression is recognised globally in all quarters. ADHD is not. Link to post Share on other sites
Marlowe Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Oh my. I just wandered across this thread to find it was crammed by people who are evidently qualified Educational Psychologists, given the sincerity with which they pass their opinions off as facts. Link to post Share on other sites
Skarclaw Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Clinical depression is recognised globally in all quarters. ADHD is not. Most of the controvesy about adhd seems to be how its diagnosed rather then if its a real condition or not. I think its rather simplistic to dismiss it entirly as just kids acting up, espicially given how it affects adults aswell. I mean, unless your a scientologist, or maybe Jeremy Clarkson Link to post Share on other sites
Mike_West Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 I think that's why I always get so inflamed when a teenager curses out an adult in my high school, or backtalks, because I've grown up to respect adults. Which I see is lacking is MANY of the kids in my generation. Nah, that's entirely justified. A lot of adults are dumber than teenagers. I think I need to read more as I'm feeling I'm getting stupid. Link to post Share on other sites
Panoptes Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Ultimately, the problem is kids having kids. Link to post Share on other sites
Hakkon Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 I'm Jeremy Clarkson. My problem with ADHD isn't if it's a disease or not, but rather that everyone uses it as a crutch to explain why they are doing something wrong. It's really not fair to the people around them who have to deal with their behavior, and it's down right cruel to the people who actually have a real case of ADHD, who now, because of everyone else cocking it up, must suffer from people's scorn. Like every other disease, it can be managed and overcome (to an extent, I'm making a gross generalization here), but there are people who choose to say "oh, I can't do that because I have ADHD." Those are the people who truly suck. Don't blame the disease till after you have tried, tried, and tried again. Link to post Share on other sites
Seraphim989 Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 I'm Spartacus! Link to post Share on other sites
Abelius Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 No, I am Spartacus! On a more serious side, especially the teacher parts are frightening because we talk of them in my teacher studies all the time. Touching a student isn't downright illegal yet (we actually are allowed to remove them physically with witnesses evident), but a teacher has to be really, really careful nowadays. Lawsuits, trashy newspapers... Link to post Share on other sites
Mike_West Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 It's not ADHD. It's LPOA. Link to post Share on other sites
gunnermaniac Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 My problem with ADHD isn't if it's a disease or not, but rather that everyone uses it as a crutch to explain why they are doing something wrong. It's really not fair to the people around them who have to deal with their behavior, and it's down right cruel to the people who actually have a real case of ADHD, who now, because of everyone else cocking it up, must suffer from people's scorn. Like every other disease, it can be managed and overcome (to an extent, I'm making a gross generalization here), but there are people who choose to say "oh, I can't do that because I have ADHD." Those are the people who truly suck. Don't blame the disease till after you have tried, tried, and tried again. Haha, this is good for the humour and jokes! What a load of bull. Link to post Share on other sites
Robinio Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 So true... Link to post Share on other sites
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