hwagan Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Just to develop on this: G&P's DD rails only come as part of whole AEGs. They make a RIS II and a Lite. The barrel nuts for these, of course, fit effortlessly on G&P receiver threads. They come as complete front end kits as well; That includes rail, outer barrel, gas assembly and flash-hider. It's usually listed as the Defender front set, but it doesn't appear to be on Ehobby's website anymore, not sure why. It's definitely out there somewhere though! Link to post Share on other sites
scorch Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 I just recently found myself ditching my rails in favour of regular hand guards since I never put anything but a flashlight on them anyway. Anyone else taking this "backward" step? Link to post Share on other sites
Leon Kennedy Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 But the Omega rail doesn't need a barrel nut, it goes onto the D ring. Unless you are talking about the DD Omega X rails, then they use the same nut as the DD RIS II I think. Or are you talking about a different RIS? Getting myself mixed up. You're right; my Omega dropped right into the D ring. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 I just recently found myself ditching my rails in favour of regular hand guards since I never put anything but a flashlight on them anyway. Anyone else taking this "backward" step? If you didnt use them fully, I think its not a step back, but a step forward as you are saving weight and getting more comfort when carrying the gun, not to mention a bigger battery space if you placed your batteries in the front part. Im still deciding about going back to regular handguards or rails in my socom... Link to post Share on other sites
scorch Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 True. I've kept my tri rail gasblock though, as I do need somewhere for the flashlight and it's a bit different from the norm. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Getting myself mixed up. You're right; my Omega dropped right into the D ring. Part names confusion anyone? ARs always need a barrel nut of some kind, it's the 'cog' bit that holds the outer barrel on, the delta ring is just the circular part with the rings cut in to the outside that you pull back to in order to fit/remove plastic handguards. Some kinds of free-floating rails require specific barrel nuts to bolt on to, but you still need a basic nut on any M4/M16 type weapon. Im still deciding about going back to regular handguards or rails in my socom... I find MOE handguards to be a winner. If all you want is a VFG and/or a light then you're sorted with the accessories already available that integrate seamlessly with them; saves weight, cheaper, and much easier to install/remove. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 I find MOE handguards to be a winner. If all you want is a VFG and/or a light then you're sorted with the accessories already available that integrate seamlessly with them; saves weight, cheaper, and much easier to install/remove. Yes thought about them a couple of times, but(i think I will be infinitely flamed by this) I dont like them I like the regular M4 handguards more than MOE ones... but you are right, they are better for accesory use, so Im still hopelessly undeciding. OFFTOPIC: "suitcase", i just watched Top gear and I already feel my english written accent improving Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 I just recently found myself ditching my rails in favour of regular hand guards since I never put anything but a flashlight on them anyway. Anyone else taking this "backward" step? I've ditched pretty much everything unnecessary for the same reason; Although i'm still sticking with rails on my AR's, they're all fairly light. For example, a TRX handguard with only the bottom rail fitted loses the steel D-ring, handguard cap and doesn't require the heavy a-frame gas block, so it's actually lighter than the handguards. Same with the MRP upper; Not sure it's lighter, but it's not a lot heavier either due to the lack of barrel nut assembly. Link to post Share on other sites
scorch Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 (edited) The weight isn't really an issue for me but the rails aren't particularly comfy to hold on their own, and sticking more on it to make it comfy seem counter productive. Next I just got to source and fit a stock that is a bit more legit than the stubby solid stock I have on it. Only thing is, I'm doing this conversion on a budget of next to zero. I got the outer barrel and handguards for free, If only I could manage the same for the stock... Edited March 21, 2011 by scorch Link to post Share on other sites
slu Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Thanks for trying to help, but I'm looking for RS, not airsoft. I should have clarified that. First of all, that is not in stock, and second of all, even if it was, that is FDE, not black. Thanks for trying though! Since the gov't contract was for FDE, your black is going to be harder to come by. Check out some firearms forums, they generally have more up to date information about that stuff directly from DD. Link to post Share on other sites
DahlTR Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 CA Mk18 Block 1 Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 BRIEFCASE OF DOOM. Link to post Share on other sites
TeowneD Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 (edited) BRIEFCASE OF DOOM. sweet! Edited March 22, 2011 by TeowneD Link to post Share on other sites
Carter Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 (edited) How do you like the RVG? I love its look but cannot decide if it's too short or not. Edited March 22, 2011 by Carter Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 (edited) How do you like the RVG? I love its look but cannot decide if it's too short or not. Comfiest foregrip i've used, pretty much. I never got on with KAC style vert grips, and a lot of stubby grips tend to have ridges and protrusions which annoy me. Rocked AFG's for a while, but i found they weren't quite 'angled' enough for me. With the RVG, the heel of my hand sits in the indent at the front of the RVG, my lower 3 fingers wrap around it and my thumb and index finger rests nicely on the rail. Unfortunately, all of that information applies only to me - See if you can find a weapon with one at a local site or try one out in a store, as it's very much a case of to each their own. I find the RVG to be a perfect compromise between the pillar style grip of a KAC vfg, and the thumb break style of an AFG. I'd definitely recommend at least trying one - Decent texture, shape and reasonably priced. Fits a lot more solidly than a throw lever/screw through the bottom as well. Edited March 22, 2011 by hwagan Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmypie Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Nice hwagan, i like your style! which model/size is that peli case? she's a snug fit! Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Nice hwagan, i like your style! which model/size is that peli case? she's a snug fit! Thanks man It was inspired by this; http://store.troyind.com/M7A1_Storm_Case_p/scas-m7a-00bt-00.htm I'm ordering some proper foam as soon as i get paid to fit it a little better and get some mags in. As for the Pelicase, it's a 1490 - Not sure of the other details, but i managed to acquire it for free from work Link to post Share on other sites
frogfish Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 How do you like the RVG? I love its look but cannot decide if it's too short or not. Just remember the RVG isn't intended for you to grab the whole thing it's mean to be used like the LaRue FUG. Kinda like this.... Link to post Share on other sites
Leon Kennedy Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Part names confusion anyone? I'll assume that's not meant to be condescending. Regardless of what the name of it is, I can at least still install a rail on it. BRIEFCASE OF DOOM. Very neat. I was contemplating making something of the like with a padded tool case I have once I get a CQB length barrel on mine. Link to post Share on other sites
slu Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 (edited) Edited March 23, 2011 by slu Link to post Share on other sites
Carter Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 I'm loving the SPR. Parts list? Link to post Share on other sites
MRF Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Your really lucky there, in US. I mean a possibility of buying RS parts and accesories... Link to post Share on other sites
Don Vido Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 I´like the SPR too! Brand? Link to post Share on other sites
Noveske Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Got some custom trademarks engraved today as well as masked (not too well unfortunately) the old trademarks. The Noveske MUR-1! Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 I'll assume that's not meant to be condescending. Regardless of what the name of it is, I can at least still install a rail on it. No it wasn't, that's not my style at all, it's hardly like you're taught part names of ARs in school so I never expect anyone to know these things. Point is, at some other time down the line you (or any of the potentially thousands of others who read read this thread) might be discussing a similar topic r.e. handguards or barrels etc and it just seems sensible to me that folks know the right names of parts, so that next time they can avoid confusion and get their guns and stuff sorted out more quickly and efficiently with less confusion on all sides. So I do apologise if I came across as being a *rickroll*, your view point is quite understandable, purely a mistake on my part. Link to post Share on other sites
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