St Matt Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 I love the classic Beretta M9 and some of these look great!!! I have a question tho, I have a standard TM M9, which I really like but its a bit 'plasticy'. I have thought about getting one of the Guarder metal kits and barrel. Have any of you guys had any experience with the Guarder kits for the M9? Are they a quality upgrade over the plastic TM body and are they a pain in *albartroth* to fit? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 they are a right pain in the albatroth to fit, I would stick to a metal frame, and leave a plastic slide, if you enjoi USING rather than looking and feeling it. I would go for Prime/PGC/Shooters Desgin over guarder, if you want quality, if you're happy tinkering, filing, etc then the guarder is a good cheaper alternative. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
St Matt Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Thanks WhiteHawksan in that case I think I will leave well alone and just use her! Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bando Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 what were the consensus on the old Zeke slides for the m9s? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zerograffit Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) JLS Rx4 w/accessories sry phone camera Like? Edited February 15, 2012 by zerograffit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bladerunner168 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Like? yes Want? yes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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NonEx Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 KJW M9A1 full metal CO2 GBB w/ markings. Gonna spice it up with some Guarder Beretta grips and hex screws as well as a threaded barrel and silencer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinydata Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Not the right thread to ask, but does anyone know what the best option for a M9 is? I'm looking for one with the following: 1. Good build quality- no flaking paint 2. Reliability and durability (compatible with green gas) 3. Accuracy 4. Full trademarks The decocker function would be nice but it's not critical. I see some pictures of KSC and KJW M9s with markings here but I can't find those in any online stores Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bladerunner168 Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 My S7 KSC M9A1 was reliable and durable, range was pathetic but I use pistols at close range (below 15 feet) only. Build quality is superb, if you choose the Taiwan version, it's full metal and comes with good trades but you will need to buy the Guarder grips (dirt cheap) as the stock ones have KSC on them. If you can get hold of a WA M9 variant with some spare mags, that would be the ideal situation, but they're very rare on the market these days. For my M9 needs, I'm building a TM M92F into a Guarder kit, massive PITA but hopefully worthwhile. You can get KSC's here: http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/product_detail1.php?search_From=category&item=KSC-PS-M9A1-FM&search=category&rs=KSC%20Gas%20Pistols&catid=7&cat=19 http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/product_detail1.php?search_From=category&item=KSC-PS-M9-FM&search=category&rs=KSC%20Gas%20Pistols&catid=7&cat=19 http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/product_detail1.php?search_From=category&item=KSC-MAG-M9N&search=category&rs=KSC%20Pistol%20Magazines&catid=17&cat=174 http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/product_detail1.php?search_From=searchItem&item=GD-ACC-NB61&search=searchItem&rs=guarder%20m9&catid=&cat= Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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NonEx Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) UNCompany has the KJW M9 with trades. However KJW pretty much falls short on points 1, 3 and 4 in some regards. Only point 2 is a solid win for KJW. As for your criterias list I think only KSC M9 full metal w/ trades fullfill those to some extent. Allthough the grips do not have the Beretta logo but I think you could modify RS grips or Guarder M9 grips to fit. EDITED for spelling and bladerunner beat me :| Edited April 15, 2012 by NonEx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinydata Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 I'm liking the looks of the KSC M9 S7 Taiwan Version bladerunner- how bad exactly is the range on the KSC M9? I only use customized Marui M1911s so I bet I've been a little spoiled by the hop-up on those. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bladerunner168 Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Based purely on the one I owned, expect "variable" performance at the 20-25 feet range, anything past that range is pure luck if you hit something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 The only problem with the WAs is they really don't like green in general. They tend to break slides But they're fine to run on 134a. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinydata Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Bladerunner- do you know what might have caused such dismal performance? I've owned a KWA M1911 (pre NS-2) and I'm assuming it was similar to the KSC one- didn't seem too horrible. It was good out to about 100 feet, not Marui quality, but still OK. hitmanNo2- Green gas is kind of a requirement for me. I need it to cycle quickly and really punch BBs out to 100 feet quickly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bladerunner168 Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Could have been the hop, I didn't have any other KSC to compare what a functioning hop unit should look like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 Western Arms M9 NBB: so old I couldn't even Google it. Hell, I didn't even know it existed before it was handed over to me for repairs. But it just shows WA knew how to do it right from the start. I mean most replicas will look realistic, but this thing just looks real, period. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 A few more details? What's it made of and what does it weigh? Any idea just how old 'old' is? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) I'm afraid no amount of googlefu will turn up any information about it so I can only draw from my observations. It weighs 1,100g and mostly made of heavyweight ABS. HW ABS is just your typical ABS with metal powder mixed in. The stuff WA uses looks to be ferric because there's a reddish tinge hinting of rust which lends a lot to its looks. The metal parts (trigger, hammer, controls) are zinc diecast and are chemically colored, not painted so eventual wear will fade instead of chip, again making it look great with age. One of the problems was a very leaky mag and one of the things I had to do to fix it was replace the valve stem spring with a stiffer one. However it may have been leaking from the valve because I was using green gas. For all we know it may have only been designed for 134a which at a lower pressure may not have leaked. Didn't get to chrono but by my guess it's doing 270. Does a little more with the original spring but it leaks. The hammer spring does feel very soft however and I suspect it's to do with it's age and countless times it was dry fired as indicated by a broken trigger spring. No hop-up. Magazine holds 21 rounds. Guessing it's from early 90's Edited April 20, 2012 by renegadecow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 Updated with threaded outer barrel, silencer and grips. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 Nice. Despite it's cliched use in films and TV I do like a suppressed M92. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 Very nice, been playing a bit of Silent Assassin today (a game as old in computer terms as that WA is in pistol terms) and the 92FS just looks right, somehow. Is that running a CO2 mag? I've seen a steel slide for the KJW reviewed by RA-Tech, would make a good cheap winter gun if I got it engraved properly... Hmmm... Cheers for the renegadecow, that is a lovely pistol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 Yeah, CO2 mag, hence the huge bumper at the bottom But nice blowback and sound to boot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chromatican Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 I call it the M9 'Advance', reminds me of Marui's G26 Advance. Laylax/Nineball Short Compensator Element M9 Weaver Rail (Complete garbage, don't ever buy it. It took hours of filing to get it to even fit on the M9, and as you can see, it still is not properly aligned.) TM 32rd Extended Mag KJW Rubberized Grips Next to my friend's Barry Burton, for reference. But wait, there's more! Transforms into.....Metal..............GEAR?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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