Brick Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Read it again Seraphim989 he clearly signs himself as School Chaplain. Link to post Share on other sites
Triggerhappychappy Posted March 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Try telling that to the religionists, it is there duty to try and "save your sole" (I always use a fridge, much better to keep my sole fresh) and the earlier they can start the indoctrination the easier it is to program people. Anything that pokes at this process can only help with freedom of choice; mine was removed at birth as I was born into a RC family. Religious indoctrination (they called it "education") was compulsory, fortunately I wasn't susceptible and made my own informed choice. ^That, pretty much. My family isnt religous as such, but the only good schools near by happen to be RC ( primary school ) and Joint RC and CoE (secondary school) ( the local state run schools are appauling for education quaility- or atleast they were when I was young ). Young kids, too young to understand the concept of religion, are essentially brainwashed and spoon fed all the religious twaddle and forced to recite it & show that they understand it/ agree with it under the pretence of 'education'; took me until I was in my early teens to start to realise what a bunch of utter ###### it all is really ( even ignoring all the inconsistancies and contradictions ). I agree about teaching kids moral values and how to be good people, repect other people/cultures/beliefs etc, but no one should have to do so whilst only being exposed to one religious viewpoint/ dogma etc. Teach kids about all religions and belief systems and not just brainwash them into being good little God-fearing christians. Link to post Share on other sites
Brick Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Proper education about these subjects woud reduce the number of vulnerable people cults can target (cults like the Scientologists) Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthbomber Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 while the preacher probably only meant well i still dont think it's right to spoon feed kids religious propaganda, its just not right. Not Teacher, school Chaplain. He said preacher Read it again Seraphim989 he clearly signs himself as School Chaplain. Is it me? Link to post Share on other sites
Brick Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 probably not.......crossed wires and comments on the op's post Link to post Share on other sites
Seraphim989 Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 I...eh? Link to post Share on other sites
Brick Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Possibly..... Link to post Share on other sites
Gliderrider Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 I agree about teaching kids moral values and how to be good people, repect other people/cultures/beliefs etc, but no one should have to do so whilst only being exposed to one religious viewpoint/ dogma etc. Teach kids about all religions and belief systems and not just brainwash them into being good little God-fearing christians. ^ Jup. My parents took us to church/sunday school/ church activities/ Holiday club etc when we were young, but did'nt force it on us. The only lasting effect is that I'll curse "Good God" or "Jesus Christ" when in polite company. (When not, if its apropiate it will be F's and Jeff's) This point also Riles when Jahovers witnesses come knocking and ask what I will do at judgment day. They sound immpressed when I tell them all the bull about wanting to save my family from all the evil in the worlld, At this point I invite them in, and show them my "War Room" (Armoury + a manaquin in LHA gear with MP44, and some Piks of varius tanks) Link to post Share on other sites
Xaccers Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 This point also Riles when Jahovers witnesses come knocking and ask what I will do at judgment day. I just ask them how they can sleep at night worshipping a genocidal tyrant. This normally results in blank stares. It's amazing how little people know about their own religion, especially the darker side of it. Link to post Share on other sites
Triggerhappychappy Posted March 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Ah, the Crusades; good times for christianity. Anyone else think that whats currently happening with Islam vs Christianity is kinda like the crusades in reverse? Link to post Share on other sites
Seraphim989 Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Islam has been on a crusade for hundreds of years Link to post Share on other sites
AceOfSkulls Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Link to post Share on other sites
Seraphim989 Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Too right mate Link to post Share on other sites
Xaccers Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 See, now most christians will try and tell you god is a nice chap... Link to post Share on other sites
Brick Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 I used to work with a self described moderate Muslim, we had a discussion about the effects of religion and during this I mentioned that as an Atheist I accepted his right to believe as he chose and that I expected the same from others, he replied that he DIDN'T respect my right to believe as I do. He tried for around 4 months to convert me, he failed I've worked with Jahovers Witnesses, Mormons, extreme Christians, Taoists and even a few Budhists. Of all these the least likely to try and force there religion were those from the Eastern faiths, That is after a discussion on the differences in outlook they didn't try and change mine. Link to post Share on other sites
GuzziHero Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 My answer to the judgement day question is... "If God exists, then he created everything. Including the doubt in my mind that I have over his existence. He gave me the ability to think, to question. Why would a loving God then punish me for using the gift he gave me?" Link to post Share on other sites
GnGArmament Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 I've worked with Jahovers Witnesses, Mormons, extreme Christians, Taoists and even a few Budhists. Of all these the least likely to try and force there religion were those from the Eastern faiths I guess you haven't worked with Extreme American Christians... EDIT: This is only in extreme cases. (ie: Westboro Baptist Church). Most Christians I know are very outgoing and respectful of anothers religion/sexual preference. Link to post Share on other sites
Dropkicked Baby Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Uh... Did you misread his post or am I not seeing something? He said the ones from the EAST were the LEAST likely to force their ideas on you. Did you mix up East/West? Link to post Share on other sites
Triggerhappychappy Posted March 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Heh heh yeah, I think he was just trying to make a point that there are also western religious nutters who will try and ram their beliefs down your throat more so than normal, but you are correct in his misunderstanding. Link to post Share on other sites
GnGArmament Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 He said the ones from the EAST were the LEAST likely to force their ideas on you. Did you mix up East/West I agreed with him, at the bottom of my post I said that this is only in extreme cases. For the most part they are very accepting people. Heh heh yeah, I think he was just trying to make a point that there are also western religious nutters who will try and ram their beliefs down your throat more so than normal Yep, exactly what I thought Link to post Share on other sites
Marlowe Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 This has gone into the usual juvenile 'religion am bad' territory now (with a few attempts at sensibility), so I'm locking this. I'm agnostic, before anyone asks when I last went to a church / mosque / synagogue / wat, but that doesn't mean I feel the personal need to preach rational scepticism to all and sundry. Personally I don't see how that makes a person any better than the people you think you are making slighting comments against. Link to post Share on other sites
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