my_plague_666 Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 why? he asked for my opinion. and dont get me wrong, i have no problem with weight, i like heavy guns, i dont like hideously unballanced guns though. and why would you need a tac light and PEQ for woodland (an M14 isnt exactly CQB friendly)? Link to post Share on other sites
Agent Hunk Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 (edited) Just because a rifle may not be "CQB" friendly doesn't mean it won't be used. Sometimes you have no other option. And I've seen numerous people using the EBR in MOUT situations like Irene so I'd imagine its not a huge issue. I won't get into the PEQ because its battery and realism issue that isn't worth debating. EDIT: Bolded for emphasis. Edited December 11, 2007 by Agent Hunk Link to post Share on other sites
chillindrdude Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 yah, its too bad my PEQ doesn't hold batteries. Link to post Share on other sites
Sherlock Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 (edited) He just can't afford one that's all. This ought to explain your problem with the EBR Edited December 11, 2007 by Sherlock Link to post Share on other sites
[BS]_MARS Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 Just to fuel you hate of the EBR, my old one: Link to post Share on other sites
Agent47 Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 Let me burn out your eyes with mine: Link to post Share on other sites
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LORD_SEX Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 M14 + rails = SEX This doesen't mean that classic M14 are not nice, they are sex too, but not as sexy Link to post Share on other sites
TheJackal Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 (edited) Got my M14 today and it's stunning. I don't see what everyone was on about when they said it was heavy and I find the length perfect, but I am quite tall Mag changes take some getting used after using an M16 for so long but my god I love it! Buy a Guarder Bipod Pin Adaptor for the TM M14. Found mine on ebay for cheap, works great on my CA M14 Thanks for that I'll get on ebay now an have a look, pics to follow And I agree M14 + rails = SEX Edited December 12, 2007 by TheJackal Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 people critiscised the weight? anyhoo, congrats on getting an M14, it should serve you well. and i seriously dont see what you guys see in EBRs and RASed guns. they just look hideously ugly to me. lord sex's statement about stock M14s not looking as nice almost made my head explode IMPOSSIBLE! DOES...NOT...COMPUTE!!! REALITY COMPROMISED! EEEEERROR! *boom* Link to post Share on other sites
BigAl Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 why would you need a tac light and PEQ for woodland (an M14 isnt exactly CQB friendly)? Do you live at the north pole like mate, it gets dark in the woods at night where I live. Link to post Share on other sites
luvs2shoot Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 guys what setup makes an M14 attractive is based purely based on personal preference. it's like i love aramalites (some hate them) and HATE the g-36 oh. and +1 for a "normal" M14 with a RAS (if ur doing a DMR setup + scope) Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltSky Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 (edited) I agree with plague here. M14 w/o rails is a thing of beauty. the EBR may be more practical for some but it certanly isn't going to win any beauty contests (especially if a proper M14 is entering ). I guess I'm also one of the anti-lego brigade as well. I'm working out a way to fit an eotech, laser and tac light all on a single, stanard rail. Edited December 12, 2007 by CobaltSky Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 if you need a tac light or laser, barrel mount it. or perhaps screw a very short bit of RAS on the underside at the front. might look interesting with a small laser on the bayonet lug. and yes al, it gets dark here in essex but what good are tac lights in woodland, all they do is say "YOOHOO! IM OVER HERE FOLKS" its undeniable that your enemy ends up with a better target that you do. same for lasers in woodland. Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 I nlike both EBR's and classic M14's. I'm just going with classic M14 DMR setup because I don't have enough money for an EBR and they don't make one for a G&G. and IMO G&G new M14's are the best bang for your buck. Taclights are extremely useful in woodland night soft. You can use it to find your way ( may want a red filter for that). Or for lightng up enemy postions (jut be aware you will have to extract fast if you either didn't take them all out or there is more tangoes in the area) and finding lost items. CobaltSky, you could get a STAR S-Lap/D-Lap (the one with the rail on top), mount a taclight on that rail then a Eotech on a riser mount to see above the laser/taclight. Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 Taclights are extremely useful in woodland night soft. You can use it to find your way ( may want a red filter for that). Or for lightng up enemy postions (jut be aware you will have to extract fast if you either didn't take them all out or there is more tangoes in the area) and finding lost items. all of which will end in you being seen and probably shot. as for lost items, what kind of an excuse to have a tac light is that??? "hey jimbob, why do you have a taclight on that minigun?" "in case i loose something, lol" and i still say for the lighting up enemy positions suggestion it will end in, "oh look a bloke with a torch strapped to his gun, he looks rather obvious, lets shoot him" Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltSky Posted December 13, 2007 Report Share Posted December 13, 2007 (edited) I was thinking along the lines of urban nightops, but its not really that important to me. I mainly do woodland but my team has found that a laser can be useful for designating targets or drawing team mates' attention to certain objects. Tac light not so much, but I'd like the flexibility. I don't like barrel mounts because they always seem to brake on me. I've lost an expensive green laser that way, so now I prefer to keep everything on the reciever. This is easier on the AUG because it has a long enough rail to let me use a double sided offset mount, but the M14 rail is too short. In the end it isn't going to be on there most of the time so I wanted to keep the cost down. Edited December 13, 2007 by CobaltSky Link to post Share on other sites
The Crunchy Bunny Posted December 13, 2007 Report Share Posted December 13, 2007 Tac lights are handy only if you are with in close range of the enemy and are sure you can hit them, usually done in a surprise type envirnment but you arn't 100% sure of there exact location. Then spray and move away. Without it you may miss your target and have a SHTF situation arise. And, so this isn't spam (ignore the armalite), Link to post Share on other sites
Wupjak Posted December 13, 2007 Report Share Posted December 13, 2007 interesting debate. I have always been of the opinion that it is better to have and not need rather than the other way round. I mount the eotech laser and ir illuminator on my ebr for night games. That isn't overkill and does what I need it to do in tandem with my nv setup. Ymmv. Link to post Share on other sites
Cam Keo SOC16 Posted December 13, 2007 Report Share Posted December 13, 2007 Wupjak, do you still own the setup that is shown in your signature? Have some better pictures? Thanks, Cam Link to post Share on other sites
Wupjak Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 That one was one of the original run built by Marui. I received it in September (?) or so of 2005, I believe. I sold to a teammate earlier this year who still has it in pretty much that configuration except with a RAS. It was a homebrewed Scout length before those fancy-schmancy short outer barrel kits were available. OD base with tan, brown and grey grass/leaf stencil work. Stock heatshield, Spectergear CST 3-point sling and the same 3-9 Baush & Lomb scope that's now on my Scout pictured elsewhere. Pics I had of that rifle are gone, sorry. If you look at my black Scout, it's essentially the same setup except for the Scout heatshield and a Springfield replica scope mount vs. the ARMS KA replica mount that I have now. Link to post Share on other sites
gunaholic336 Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 My CA M14 Sorry about the bad quality I had to use my webcam. Link to post Share on other sites
bangus Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 (edited) Here's my Biatch CYMA SOCOM 16 *please don't mind the decals on the magpul (its for tournament purposes) and the duct-tape on the bi-pod (it was kinda loose). Edited December 14, 2007 by bangus Link to post Share on other sites
[BS]_MARS Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 You need a lower Aimpoint mount. It cant be fun to have to find the dot with no cheek wield. Link to post Share on other sites
bangus Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 I actually had a low mount for it before but I had a hard time finding the dot with my sensei mask on so I opted for the tri-rail high mount... Link to post Share on other sites
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