Spacemonkey Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Some friends of mine are involved in a new project- a training centre for Military, Police and body guard associations that will also be open to the general public: http://airsoftarena.hu/?page_id=2&lang=en The centre is designed like the facilities used by special forces for training purposes in the US and UK, and is believed to be the first of it's kind in the EU. It is based in Budapest, Hungary, which is a fabulous city that is well worth a visit in itself. Everything here is very cheap and there seems to be a law that does not allow ugly women in Budapest... There are also plenty of live firing ranges where you can hire all sorts of naughtiness such as Skorpions, PPS, SVDs, AKs, MP5s etc etc... http://www.eclipseleisure.co.uk/stag-weekend/Budapest/Shooting-weekend/ I hope nobody minds me posting this here, but I hope it could be of interest to many of you. The grand opening is on May 1st and my friends will be putting on a demonstration... Anyway, here's what they have to say for themselves: The Arena Intro “In Hungary there is no other facility of this kind or size for public or even governmental use. I have seen the need for a large, purpose built CQB training establishment like the ones used by Special Forces in the USA and the UK. So we have built a 1200 square meters Airsoft arena, for non-lethal force on force training. It is specifically designed to challenge even the most professional Commando. But most of all it is the only place of its type in Central and Eastern Europe.” Lee Neville Tattersall Ex British Commando What Airsoft Arena is an indoor facility for recreational use or training for professional operators from law enforcement/military or bodyguard associations and you too can use the arena today. Where We are in the 4th district of Budapest, On the Outer Váci street no.83. It can be easily accessed by car or public transport (blue metro line, bus). There is ample parking facilities available on site to ensure your experience is hassle free. Purpose We have constructed this facility for public and governmental use. The Airsoft Arena is a purpose built training establishment like the ones in the United States of America and the United Kingdom. The Arena is specially designed to challenge you by using audio visual techniques to increase the natural adrenalin and endorphins that the body release during game play. We will teach you the best way to control your senses and overcome the self induced fear. “This is the Commando experience” Profile Over the last 11 years I have worked in the commercial security sector, as well as serving in the Royal Marines Commando and the United Kingdom Parachute Regiment. Over this time I gained PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATIONS in, * Close Protection Trained * Combat Medic course. FA2 * Defensive driver / Blue light driver (Special Escort Group, run course) * Resistance to Interrogation / Escape and Evasion trained. * Close Quarter Battle trained. * Military parachuting * Helicopter fast roping and rapelling. * Military Skiing. * Jungle Warfare trained. * Ability to deliver instruction and training. * Man management. I started my military life by joining the Parachute Regiment at the age of 18. The PARA’S are the Airborne Infantry element of the British army. It is an elite unit by virtue of its hard selection process, demanding training programme and by the requirement of its role to operate with minimal or no support. I passed the 26 week recruit training course held at the Parachute Regiment Training Centre Catterick and I was sent to the 3rd Battalion, The Parachute Regiment (3 PARA). The unit was deployed to Northern Ireland and many other areas of the world in support of British interests and Government foreign policy. In 2002 I was 23 years old and feeling the need to push myself further, so I applied to join the British Commando’s. First I had to pass the longest infantry training course in NATO. It is run from the Commando Training Centre Royal Marines Lympstone. After the course I asked to be sent to Fleet Protection Group Royal Marines / Comacchio Group. My 6 man team was deployed to Northern Ireland and Southern Iraq for operational duties in support of British interests and Government foreign policy. For some time I worked as part of a team within the Maritime Counter Terrorist role worldwide having operational tours of the Persian Gulf which involved the stopping and searching of compliant and non-compliant commercial vessels in territorial waters. These operations were to prevent the illegal transportation of oil, drugs, money, wanted personnel, or arms and ammunition within the prescribed United Nation mandate/resolutions. Operational duties also included two detachments working in SOE Troop from the NATO HQ in London and working with Special Forces (was named Direct Support Role, now known as Special Forces Support Group) My team was tasked with protection for Combined Deliberate Assault, terrorist and hostage handling, close target reconnaissance, surveillance and target acquisition for direct action mission of suspected terrorists, combat search and rescue. All operations were tasked by senior military officers, the security services or special branch. The teams are held at high readiness for deployment and they receive specialist training and equipment. This includes escape and evasion training, survival, parachuting, the use of specialist weapons, foreign weapons and advanced first aid instruction. Due to the nature of this type of unit we often operated without immediate support. From 2005 till 2008 I worked in Iraq for a large private military company providing protection for high-ranking diplomats, U.S Army officers from the corps of engineer’s as well as Ernest and Young employees based out of the ministry of interior in Baghdad. I moved to Hungary in 2009 and decided to build the Airsoft Arena in Budapest. I hope to meet you here soon… Link to post Share on other sites
Trasher Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Some hungarian teams are not exactly thrilled by this "great" idea to promote airsoft openly as a training tool for the real thing. The goverment just raped the recreational and olympic sport shooting community by imposing draconian rules, so all we need is advertisements like these... Link to post Share on other sites
waxxer Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 cool, will definitely check this out. Link to post Share on other sites
Misfit Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 Is this the same thing as: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=182837 ? //Edit: OP of the other topics location is now set as Iraq, IIRC it was Hungary at the time. Link to post Share on other sites
hayabusa46 Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 OP of the other topics location is now set as Iraq, IIRC it was Hungary at the time. Hungary it was not, from what I remember it was Croatia or Serbia, one of those 2. Some hungarian teams are not exactly thrilled by this "great" idea to promote airsoft openly as a training tool for the real thing. Why this.. airsoft... is not promoted as a sport there? Link to post Share on other sites
Cyclone TAW Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 You have to be carefull about attracting "too much" attention though. Given the nature of the sport, it will always freak some ppl out, no matter how positive you try and aproach it. Link to post Share on other sites
swannie_2006 Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 This is awesome! I certainly shall give it a go when I get to Hungary next time. Though I have to agree with Trasher (first time, I guess) that advertising this place as a _CQB training_ facility is dangerous. Especially with our future populist government who'll be quick to pull the plug if it gives them 2 more votes. Maybe It is about time to follow Romania's suite and have airsoft approved as a sport. Good luck, Trasher. you'll need it. Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Wow, hungry country on arnies news topic? Man, we are famous. I agree with Trasher, too. There are too many too stupid people (or something like that, with right to vote) who wouldn't be able to sleep at night if they heard that anyone can go and exercise with airsoft tools and that's almost like the real thing. They see some kind of fascist f#cking threat in anything that has anything to do with camo BDUs and guns, even if they are toys and made of nice yellow plastic. Regarding Romania, I wish we would follow them in many other things, too. Link to post Share on other sites
Spacemonkey Posted April 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Wow.. definitely not the feeling I get whenever any of my friends or I visit Hungary! We can pretty much do anything we want and people don't seem to care, but maybe it's the company I keep or the places we visit! Link to post Share on other sites
Trasher Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 We can pretty much do anything we want and people don't seem to care, Last time "people didn't care" around 50 (!) cops showed up at a perfetly legal airsoft event, at a concrete walled private property, where we've games for years, every weekend... They thought we're some kind of right-wing militia. A couple years ago an innocent speedsoft site (young guys running between haystacks) was widely reported in the media as a secret training facility for neo-nazis. I really hope no one starts to "care" about us! And a CQB site (promoting airsoft as the best tool for firearms/CQB/FOF training) is not exactly helping our cause to get our hobby officially recognized as a sport... Link to post Share on other sites
swannie_2006 Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 @Trasher: Are you guys actually trying to get airsoft recognized as a sport? Link to post Share on other sites
6mm Rocks Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 Last time "people didn't care" around 50 (!) cops showed up at a perfetly legal airsoft event, at a concrete walled private property, where we've games for years, every weekend... They thought we're some kind of right-wing militia. A couple years ago an innocent speedsoft site (young guys running between haystacks) was widely reported in the media as a secret training facility for neo-nazis. I really hope no one starts to "care" about us! And a CQB site (promoting airsoft as the best tool for firearms/CQB/FOF training) is not exactly helping our cause to get our hobby officially recognized as a sport... Ok so I like to sitting on the fence most of the time, and I am new at Airsoft,......... "But"! If this company is giving us a place to play and trying to up the profile of Airsoft so it is as well known as paint ball this could only be a good thing. As I see on their web site they have the police training there so the cops will not close their training ground. Also the man running it is from the British army so it will be more professional then the games we have now on a Sunday afternoon. I say good luck..... I would like to spend time with some one that has been to a war zone, not just playing at it! Link to post Share on other sites
Spacemonkey Posted May 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 I couldn't agree more! The Police won't shut down their own training facility, and they will no doubt be seeing airsoft for the sport that it is, in a place run by professionals. If you want to get some PROPER training from those that have done it all for real then this could be the place you have been looking for. Trust me guys- Lee, who runs this place, KNOWS his stuff, as do a lot of the other guys there.... Anyway, they just had their grand opening as can be seen here: http://airsoftarena.hu/?p=360 and they did a hostage rescue video demo too: Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 What if those new guys who doesn't know *suitcase* about the world around them, or in case about Hungary and hungarian police, would stop sharing the universal justice? Even the great Chuck Norris may train you, airsoft remains what it is: airsoft, it has noting to do with the real deal. Is that so hard to understand? If you want to be so *fruitcage* professional then go and join the police, army, French Foreign Legion. Link to post Share on other sites
6mm Rocks Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 What if those new guys who doesn't know *suitcase* about the world around them, or in case about Hungary and hungarian police, would stop sharing the universal justice? Even the great Chuck Norris may train you, airsoft remains what it is: airsoft, it has noting to do with the real deal. Is that so hard to understand? If you want to be so *fruitcage* professional then go and join the police, army, French Foreign Legion. We I'm no NASA expert or brain scientist, but the way I see it is you can sit at home talking about Airsoft or you can go and play Airsoft! As for Chuck Norris, on the opening of Airsoft arena I was looking at a photo on the wall in the Arena. It is of lee and 2 more Army boys with Chuck Norris in Iraq. "You can see it for yourself or you can stay at home” ! ! ! Link to post Share on other sites
Spacemonkey Posted May 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Chuck Norris took Iraq on his own then waited for everyone else to catch up... The thing is, Airsoft is many things to many people. Some people just play it as a good laugh. Something I hear from lots of squaddies is the old addage that it's 'all the fun of the Army without the ######!' which kind of sums it up. Some people just go along to 'play Army' for whatever reasons. Some miss the action from previous careers, some crave the action from careers denied them for whatever reasons. So there are plenty of people who wish to play in as a realistic manner as possible, and this is one of those places where this is possible. If you don't want that, then don't go. It's simple. So much of the negative waves man... Even the great Chuck Norris may train you, airsoft remains what it is: airsoft, it has noting to do with the real deal. Is that so hard to understand? Very good analogy. Millions of people practice martial arts around the world but it has nothing to do with the real world combat either. You can practice in a dojo in bare feet and a gi as much as you like with your slo-mo precision moves, but it doesn't have any of the edge of real combat down a dirty back alley on a Saturday night. But it's fun though. And nobody get's hurt. The people you 'kill' get up and laugh about it with you later. And that's why we do this. Link to post Share on other sites
6mm Rocks Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Rock out with your C**K out, The man has summed it up in a nut shell! Rock on Bro........ Link to post Share on other sites
Trasher Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 @Trasher: Are you guys actually trying to get airsoft recognized as a sport? Yes we do. Link to post Share on other sites
6mm Rocks Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Yes we do. Well what are you doing about it my friend? If you can do this it will only help us all...... What steps have you taken to make it happen? What do you need to achieve the status of a spot, and how can the Airsoft community help? Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 nwo now ladies put the handbags away. This is about a new CQB Site not a discussion on Hungarian politics... Link to post Share on other sites
6mm Rocks Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 I just seen on the airsoft arena ( http://airsoftarena.hu/harcos-csutortok?lang=en ) website that they will be having a weekly airsoft night for airsoft players. It is only 1500 HUF this is less then 5 GBP to play where the professionals train Link to post Share on other sites
Mike_West Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 1200 forints per hour is pretty steep, but 1500 for an all-nighter is pretty reasonable. I like it. Link to post Share on other sites
Spacemonkey Posted November 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 Ah, the best things about Hungary is the cheap prices, cheap flights and lots of beautiful women in Budapest. They're cheap too.... Link to post Share on other sites
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