renegadecow Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 I thought about this concept long before when I got a carbine length one for my M4, which is the only length that exists, basically bodge two together and make it fit an M16A2. Then I was surprised to see this item listed at a local store just recently. I've looked around and it seems to have missed the news grapevine probably keeping it low profile being a Magpul knockoff. I wouldn't be surprised if Magpul does eventually make a long one for A2's after seeing this; to be honest it looks kinda cool. edit: where I found it http://www.filairsoft.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72085 I find it really weird to find products that skip the usual Hong Kong retailers and just see them pop up here like the fake ACS stock I got some time back. It took maybe 2 or 3 weeks before I saw the same stock finally being sold in HK. Link to post Share on other sites
Number5 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 wouldn't be surprised if Magpul does eventually make a long one for A2's after seeing this; to be honest it looks kinda cool Someone else correct me if im worng, but i think they do. Link to post Share on other sites
spetsnazdave87 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 They do, it was in a catalogue posted up a little while back, I think by USMC corps. Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Aren't these are ACM ones? Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Magpul makes them, but they are for real steel guns as magpul pts doesnt make them "yet", just the acm knockoff... I saw these at acmgear.com before they retired them from the shop, dont know if they still have any at the warehouse Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Magpul and Magpul PTS will eventually be releasing them, just not yet. My immediate inclination was to say those are fakes, but the box packaging caught me off guard. If that packaging is indeed ACM ... those ACM manufacturers are really going all out to falsely advertise fakes as PTS products. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted May 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 These are most definitely fakes (ACM), just another case of knockoffs coming out before the real ones do. You have to give them credit as to how far they've copied the originals. On the ACS for example, everything from the box down to the manual is copied. http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=179437 Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 I really dont care that acm factories try to make them look like magpul or magpul pTS products if the shops selling them advertises them as "ACM" with a price according to such "quality"... Back on topic, Renegadecow, I demand pics of it installed on an M16 Link to post Share on other sites
waxxer Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 wanted to get some of these, but the size is incorrect, I think. the real ones have six vent holes on the lower. Link to post Share on other sites
orca Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Riflegear.com says they will have the real Mid and Rifle length MOE handguards Summer 2010. Magpul PTS shouldn't be too far behind. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted May 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 I haven't really fully considered picking one up yet as I don't have a full length M16. But now that Orca has posted that picture, I'm confused just for what AR-15 length handguards these knockoffs are to replace. I only knew of two handguard lengths which is for the carbine and the full length M16. This ACM handguard looks to be in between the M16 length and the one in the middle of Orca's pic. Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 Yea, lots of ACM companies are now even modding their boxes to look like PTS or RS Magpul products. I know for a fact the clone ACS, MS2, and MBUS also clone the RS Magpul boxes and instruction manuals. Link to post Share on other sites
allizard Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Aww... and I was thinking it's out. I wanted one ever since I saw it at Shot Show. Link to post Share on other sites
bbondaloose Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Bah, I've seen pictures of it on an M16, and it's really fugly in my opinion. Just curious, but where do people get all these perfect cloned Magpul gear? I could use a MS2 sling... Link to post Share on other sites
BrooklynBorn Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 http://pro--t.com/ Or more specifically, http://www.pro--t.com/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&zenid=2fd8a2f62fea54dca567fae1b497019f&keyword=MS2&x=0&y=0 Link to post Share on other sites
Deepeyes Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 http://pro--t.com/ Or more specifically, http://www.pro--t.com/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&zenid=2fd8a2f62fea54dca567fae1b497019f&keyword=MS2&x=0&y=0 has anyone ordered from these guys before? Link to post Share on other sites
Kunlun Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 has anyone ordered from these guys before? I have! The items are cheap at first sight but they do charge a lot for shipping so it kinda balances out. Link to post Share on other sites
08kecarv Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 It's just the other half of EBB. The reason they have two sites is because on EBB they can't sell the fake Magpul stuff so they sell it on the Pro&T site. Link to post Share on other sites
-Angel- Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 From a practical standpoint, what does this offer that standard polymer foregrips don't? Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 From a practical standpoint, what does this offer that standard polymer foregrips don't? Comfier to grip, Holes cut in various areas to allow for different size rails to be attached wherever the hell you like them as opposed to just top or bottom, and more of the barrel is shrouded when the bottom section is removed to mount an m203. Mainly though, it looks cool. Link to post Share on other sites
dynamic_e Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 It's just the other half of EBB. The reason they have two sites is because on EBB they can't sell the fake Magpul stuff so they sell it on the Pro&T site. Sure on that? I get much better service and shipping times with Pro--T.com. Link to post Share on other sites
Deepeyes Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 I hear you. After I payed I got a tracking number in a few hours. No other retailer has been that fast . That said shipping was ridiculous but it works out. Link to post Share on other sites
alex123white Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 that is good for us ! nice information.... thanks for sharing ! Link to post Share on other sites
Amenthea Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 It's just the other half of EBB. The reason they have two sites is because on EBB they can't sell the fake Magpul stuff so they sell it on the Pro&T site. I'm almost completely sure they are not related. I've dealt with Pro-T a few times and its nothing like EBB. The shipping comes out a bit weird at times on the site, just email them for a confirmed price of shipping to the required area. Back on topic, the longest length hand guard does look weird to my eyes. I guess I'm so used to seeing the normal short version. Link to post Share on other sites
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