mimesis Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Does this go here? Link to post Share on other sites
Dagonet Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 Epic, nice mount too Played mine today. Got hold of green gas at last which helped things. One last go with the Guarder .28s as i have a bag left, most likely go through an AEG now to use them up. Even after polishing the feed tracks on 6 mags they still hung up in the track. Swapped to club BB's no issue, then Blaster Devil .28's no issue, me and Guarder .28s are done, could be i have an off batch or off bag, i will try the other bag then go back to Blasters. Scoped up pistols generate a lot of interest from other players (as i found out) still with faffing about with BB's i was getting 40m+ shots and hits, i would say maybe out to 50 but can't back up that claim. The sight picture enhancement from using a Red Dot sight is fantastic, you see the whole picture, can track BB flight better, things that got awkward on iron sights the further out you go. The places you can hide, cover you can use, really stay low to the ground makes you real hard to spot, picking out a shoulder/head sticking round a tree over 40m away and then nailing it. I had immense fun. Best results, only use 1 pistol forget dual (unless in a real sticky moment) i ran with 6 mags, speed loader, gas bottle, Mk23 with 1 mag as back up (never used it), i ran loaded with a spare mag in hand ready for a change, the slide lock was still working, not short stroked, i can hold a spare mag and still work a dual hand grip. Game play today was on a paintball site so bordering on speedball at times, bit fast and hi-cap furious, ran the AEG flat first then went and got stuck in Pistol only, bit of medicing and overwatch, but also lots of get in there and lace them up. The FAB USM mount is quality, it got bashed about, dropped a few times, solid bit of gear. To carry it around (will do a photo much later) i used a normal Viper wraparound right hand belt/molle holster. With some adjustments you put the pistol in backwards, the thumbreak can be adjusted to take this and hold the pistol secure, if this makes sense....pistol in backwards, where the trigger guard should be when holstered the right way round is where the scope sits. Might be a month before i play again, be even warmer then, be more fun, the look of surprise when you cap 3 opfors at range then wave a pistol at them, brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites
mimesis Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 Epic, nice mount too It's a Tasco Pro-Class 4x30 EER pistol scope, made quite a number of years ago in the custom shop in Japan when Tasco was still a quality company and not just a name to be bought and slapped on whatever. It also has an adjustable objective which makes it, in theory, particularly good for airsoft ranges. When I bought it on ebay it didn't look so, errr, big and long as it is in real life. Tasco also makes a 2x in the same "family" which I reckon could be a winner. Link to post Share on other sites
Dagonet Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 I assumed wrongly it was a normal 4x30 rifle scope with paralax adjustable, that is a nice bit of kit, would look fab on Chrome desert eagle for some long range bench resting tack driving. Link to post Share on other sites
Vice Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Having been inspired by this thread I set off on a Sniper Pistol project. Cue finding a TM MK23 in good nick and a longer barrel. I now have a laylax 6.03 G-Spec barrel in it. With the hop sealed onto the barrel and propane it is now hitting 440fps. Local sites allow it with 30m MED and sensible use. First run was yesterday. Had great success, using the same tactics as a good bolty sniper would resulted in very few deaths (multiple team kills) and a whole heap of stealthy kills. I have modified the hop arm slightly. Using the sleeve from some 16AWG silicone wire cut in half and mounted under the hop prongs. It will now overhop .3g BB's on the lowest setting (BB's going upwards after 40m). .4's are still too heavy, even on full hop up it has a max effective range of 35m before dropping (though the shots are perfectly straight). .36's seem to work well on 3/4 hop, however I cannot see them past 20m in woodland. Does anybody produce a light/white/tan .36 (or similar) BB? Has anybody had success finding a mount for a scope for the MK23's? I read a couple of places saying full size USP mounts work and other sites contradicting this. I want to mount a 2x to 4x pistol scope on it After the fun of stealth and precision shooting with this, I am going to get myself another VSR (hooray for money pits). Link to post Share on other sites
The Bushman Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Nice work; glad the stealthy and limited ammo gameplay has brought enjoyment; as thats what it's all about imo I would love to scope up my MK23 so please let me know if you find some mounts that do the job. Good Hunting Link to post Share on other sites
Fed Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Wow, what a thread. I just spent the last few hours adding the whole thing. This is exactly what I was looking for. I was wondering about doing some sort of summary. As far as I can tell the best pistols for a sniper pistol are: TM Mk23 NBB TM G17 TM Desert Eagle TM 5/7 KJW Mk1 NBB Maruzen M93R Maruzen P99 Did I miss any? Someone mentioned a the Walther SG9000, which looks interesting, but there was no follow up. Anyone care to comment on their experience? The TM PX4 Storm also looks promising. How about a quick survey of your favorite hardware, in point form for easy access: Pistol, scope, rail/carbine kit, barrel, hopup and bucking, BBs Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 ^ - anything with a TM hop (1911 etc) - Tanaka S&W .500 - put "NBB" after that Maruzen p99 - Marushin Super Blackhawk provided you stick in a 10" 8.02mm tightbore like I did Link to post Share on other sites
Fed Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 How about TM 1911 using CO2? Link to post Share on other sites
Senor Bear Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Glad to hear the polishing helped (well, a little ). Up until my recent batch of Guarder .28s, they have run flawlessly, but I have a couple of new bags and they seem to be getting stuck a lot more often. Don't know if they are slightly smaller or what, but they tend to get pushed up two at a time, rather than nicely double stacking. Solved this with my long mags by using some dry silicone compound spray, yet to try with the short mags. Also, if anyone else happens to lose their mounting screw for the FAB USM, it is a standard M5 size - just replaced mine after losing original. Link to post Share on other sites
mayhem.mange Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Dont forget the new CZ75D compact nbb version Link to post Share on other sites
Fed Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Is that this same as the CZ 75 P-07 DUTY? http://www.replicaairguns.com/buy-air-blank-guns/#ecwid:category=2757141&mode=product&product=11989711 Link to post Share on other sites
Fed Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 Best pistols for a sniper pistol Non Blowback: TM Mk23 NBB Maruzen P99 NBB KJW Mk1 NBB CZ75D compact NBB Blowback: TM G17 TM Desert Eagle TM 5/7 TM 1911 Maruzen M93R Digicon Straight Custom Digicon Target T/C Contender. Revolver: Tanaka S&W .500 Marushin Super Blackhawk Barrel: 10" 6.02mm tightbore Rails/carbine conversion kit: Hopup and bucking: BBs: Any more suggestions are welcome. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 Uh, the .500 and Super Blackhawk are revolvers, so NBB. And to add to the list (if you could find them), Digicon Straight Custom and Digicon Target T/C Contender. Link to post Share on other sites
Kenworth W900 Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 Is the BB supposed to have some freedom when you cock the hammer on a TM MK23? Cus with mine I get a definite rattle from the BB inside the chamber once its loaded and ready to fire. Link to post Share on other sites
Fed Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 Changed on the prior post Link to post Share on other sites
Fed Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 The Beretta PX4 Storm will likely not work (that's what I have), due to the rotating barrel messing with the silencer and hence the barrel extension. Any suggestions on how I could deal with that? Link to post Share on other sites
Dagonet Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 Kenworth W900, My Mk23 doesn't rattle with a chambered BB, i have a purple nineball fitted. Whats fitted to yours ? On zero or low hop settings the BB's can just roll out or rattle on mine. Maybe a worn rubber ? a strip, check and rebuild, if the pistol is shooting at expected FPS with good accuracy anyway then maybe a quirk of your pistol. Senor Bear, Guarder .28s, yeah did wonder if maybe i had an off batch/bag, haven't tried my second bag yet, but as yours the BB's tend to jam when the track goes from double to single feed. I haven't found any real issues, finish is maybe a touch dull, not so polished as over brands, could also be as you say slightly undersized ? They also jam my UMP midcaps as well. Have got a pot of zero-one .30s to play with as well MK23 scope mounts, i will take some close up photos of my reworked grafted on 20mm rail later. I did look at the USP 20mm adaptors as they are cheap, but unsure if they will fit. When i looked the nineball mount is discontinued and wasn't cheap and in 2 seperate parts, i can get the top rail but not the important lower base mount, was looking around £60 "if" i could get it. Real MK23 mounts from the USA cropped up for $80 unsure if this is available to the UK. Link to post Share on other sites
Corkie121 Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 Just disabled my TM P226 from cycling and installed a cut down Bar10 barrel, 12 inches long. Considering taking it down to 10 inches to make it a little easier to cover with a silencer and to boost the power a bit. Firing at around 400 currently, based on the poor mans chrono. Extremely accurate and quiet so far but it's hard to aim with the longer barrel using the sights, does anyone know where I can get hold of a scope mount for a P226? Can't seem to find one anywhere.... Cheers Link to post Share on other sites
mimesis Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 Presuming that this is the TM P226R with the accessory, SIG Sauer themselves make an (expensive) scope mount that fits on it. Similar but less expensive is the FAB mount--just look back through the last few pages of this thread. The cheaper ones you find on ebay and Amazon are not worth bothering with. Link to post Share on other sites
Corkie121 Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 Presuming that this is the TM P226R with the accessory, SIG Sauer themselves make an (expensive) scope mount that fits on it. Similar but less expensive is the FAB mount--just look back through the last few pages of this thread. The cheaper ones you find on ebay and Amazon are not worth bothering with. Brilliant, cheers. Corkie Link to post Share on other sites
Bobby Lemain Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 The Digicon guns on the list are NBB Link to post Share on other sites
Fed Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 The Digicon guns on the list are NBB Noted. I'll change it when some more suggestions come in. I can't seem to edit my prior post. I don't want to overdo the long list posting. Link to post Share on other sites
jv83 Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 Hej Fed how about the Digicon Beretta NBB with extended barrel? With hop it easily reaches targets at 60m. Link to post Share on other sites
Dagonet Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Post 237 a few pages back has some photos of two red dots mounted. This is a close up of the rail. TM Mk23. Look close and you can see the pin holes from where the rail was mounted first (photos back further in this thread). I first mounted the rail forward as this was the easy option, but not so practical and i didn't like the balance point. Setting the rail rearwards is more complicated, this involved reworking the underside of the rail to mate up against the profile of slide and inmoulded sight. Hotmelt glue the rail in position and then drill through and pin from underneath, this will involve some cutting and file work of the gas router for pin head clearance. The rail has had heavy work to allow the use of open sights, it was a bit of normal 20mm rail before. Link to post Share on other sites
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