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WE M14 Gas Blowback Rifle

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From my experience, that spongy-ness is from the trigger group flexing because it's in two peices and they have stopped staying together correctly.

 

This is what happened to my trigger group:

 

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The RA-Tech part, being one piece, fully solves this problem. The trigger is totally soild, the trigger group doesn't move at all in both the EBR stock and an RA-Tech stock. Trigger pull is much crisper and consistent.

 

I just bought the housing and transfered the rest of the trigger group parts, I didn't buy the complete trigger group.

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Yeah, very solid. It's basically one piece except the right side screws on and off so you can assemble/disassemble the trigger group.

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so the WE trigger parts are solid?

RA-Tech sells steel inners, but I'm not sure the need of changing those too. The failure reports only refer to the housing.

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Has anyone installed part #53 from ra-tech ? I installed one on one of my M14's but the thing required UNGODLY amounts of filling to fit correctly ... In stock form the bolt wouldn't even cycle by hand ...

 

It's made from very tough steel but jebus, the amount of filling that was necessary for the part to fit was unbelievable.

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Yes! In fact I ended up not installing it and just going with the WE part. I figure if it breaks, I have a replacement and I'll deal with fitting it then.

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Its definitely the RAT part cause I tried it on 3 different M14's and it didn't fit on any of them.

 

Not a big issue but expected a bit more from them.

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i must've gotten lucky with mine then, was a bit disapointed with the NPAS, found to achieve lower fps i had to not follow the instructions for installing it from their videos and just straight swap it out for the stock WE nozzle. Following the instructions on a mates one we could barely get it below 350 fps on 0.20g bb's, and this is in about 10-15 *C weather.

 

Also, update on the USGI stock, almost there with dremmeling it out to make it fit, had to take a break as spent an hour trying to make the upper fit in and realised i hadn't dremmelled out the space where the tappet plate sits... derp :P

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found to achieve lower fps i had to not follow the instructions for installing it from their videos and just straight swap it out for the stock WE nozzle.

Hmm, so not shaving the plastic allows for LOWER fps settings? If so I might need to purchase a new part... I need the NPAS to go between <350 and <450, not from 400 to 550 as of now.

 

 

 

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Hmm, so not shaving the plastic allows for LOWER fps settings? If so I might need to purchase a new part... I need the NPAS to go between <350 and <450, not from 400 to 550 as of now.

 

Correct. By filling down the plastic you're allowing more gas to enter thus higher FPS.

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Installed the one piece trigger housing along with the realistic function bolt catch and steel bolt catch arm. I love being able to lock it back like on a real M14.

 

Pretty soon my WE M14 and Springfield Armory M1A are going to look like twins :)

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the recoil and refire rate suffer more on the M14. probably to the the huge amount of metal that the blowback chamber has to shift compared to the G36 and also the fact the mags are metal instead of plastic .

In very cold weather I found the hop rubber was more affected too , probably because the hop rubber is more exposed to enviroment than the enclosed chamber of the G36

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Righto.

 

I think Ill defiantly end up with one of these, are there any upgrades which are considered essential? (Apart from a NPAS and hop-rubber change)

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Although not needed ootb i highly recommend buying the complete trigger pack from RAT, it is aweshum !

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Although not needed ootb i highly recommend buying the complete trigger pack from RAT, it is aweshum !

... and stupidly expensive too! :D

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Fixed the spongy trigger my M14, a dab of Thread locker on part no14 the cotter pin keeps it from creeping out during operation. I'll let you know if it survives Sundays game.

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I recently received a used WE m14, and the stock seems very worn out. The upper receiver moves back and forth a few mms. I looked through the thread, and the edges in the stock that cause this problem are severely ground down. The main problem is that the trigger box can rock back and forth inside the stock when assembled. when the gun is ready to fire, the trigger will move back a few mms when pulled, then the whole trigger box will sort of rotate back and into the stock, and then a considerably large amount of force must be pushed on the trigger to drop the hammer. Even then, after the bolt cycles, the trigger won't drop the hammer at all, due to some weird interaction with the selector parts.

 

Could a worn out stock be the source of all these problems? Or is there anything else I can do?

 

Thanks!

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Hmm...I'm not too sure how the trigger assembly is rocking about - that might be just due to the stock been worn down like you said, but when I got my gun I *fixed* the receiver movement by putting a piece of cardboard at the front of the stock where it meets the collar. Crude, but it stopped the receiver movement at least...

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Ive also noticed that when the trigger box is secured to the upper receiver without the stock, it can rock back and forth a good deal. Is it supposed to be this loose?

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