IronWolf Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 I just wish RA-Tech would develop an NPAS for it (they've no plans for one last time I checked with them), I wonder if the standard M4 type would work... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
_akira Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 This is for MP5 http://www.tokyo-model.com.hk/ecshop/goods.php?id=8867, but maybe can be installed into a 416, or maybe they will make the same for 416 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IronWolf Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Thanks for posting that Akira! Will take apart my old M4 type bolt to see if the parts are the same Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finbarqs Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 do they sell this gun fully upgraded with the steel internals installed? Is the bolt steel as well too? do they sell a steel bolt? I'm looking for reliability and longevity. Are these guns OOTB skirmishable? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finbarqs Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 oh* and do they sell the shorter barrel in steel? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atsalakotos Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 This gun gets me really interested. Does the new version they released also use new magazines? I see WGC lists 2 GBB VFC M4 magazines... This one And this one.. I plan on skirmishing with it. Has anyone got any feedback? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IronWolf Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 (edited) The design of the magazine has been refined over time (specifically the size of the rubber gas route packing and the plastic magazine cap used to hold it in place). That said, the changes do not alter their compatibility so you will be able to use both old and new type mags with the VFC 416 GBBR (whether old or new). Regardless, the two magazine you've linked to differ only by colour (and price ), they're both the latest version. Edited May 22, 2012 by IronWolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CoolHeart_ASN Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 Any updates? Npas available? Possible upgrades? Main breaks or fails? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gijohn2 Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 Any updates? Npas available? Possible upgrades? Main breaks or fails? Just take a dive and get the iron airsoft kit and WOC internals Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slu Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 (edited) I'm wonder if the upper from this VFC will drop into a WAM4 lower? Has anyone tried? I'm thinking about a VFC/Iron Airsoft hybrid. The upper and bits and pieces from the VFC are a bit more authentic and up to date, but the Iron Airsoft is plain jane WAM4 and hence has potential skirmishability. Before any of that, does anyone have any tips on importing this to the US with trades intact? Edited July 7, 2012 by slu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atsalakotos Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Does anyone know where I can buy this in Europe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nath Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Polish Gunfire used to have those back in the days, now out of stock afaik. Maby there will be a restock soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
_akira Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 ASMC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MCXL Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 (edited) No updates on this in awhille eh? Really curious about the new 416c model. Edited January 2, 2013 by MCXL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lonewolf69 Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 No updates on this in awhille eh? Really curious about the new 416c model. MCXL FYI - I have the M27 IAR from UMAREX/VFC, BOLT is a problem and I just order a replacement set. It was from a shop in Taiwan that VFC customer support asked me to reach out to. I emailed back and forth with young lady by the name of Jessica and after 3 weeks, I finally received the parts, $35USD for complete VFC origial BCG with re-inforced "PIN". I have a full update in the M27 IAR thread, see the latest posting... Bottom line, IF you decided to get the VFC GBBR HK416 (ANY model) a small $35USD in an extra replacement bolt should automatically be added, IMHO. Fair (NO!, but what else are you going to do? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berggy Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 I'm wonder if the upper from this VFC will drop into a WAM4 lower? Has anyone tried? I'm thinking about a VFC/Iron Airsoft hybrid. The upper and bits and pieces from the VFC are a bit more authentic and up to date, but the Iron Airsoft is plain jane WAM4 and hence has potential skirmishability. ? No you cannot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
icolater Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 I love the externals of vfc gbbs, if only they added some decient steel bits for the internals, they would rule the market. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lonewolf69 Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 I love the externals of vfc gbbs, if only they added some decient steel bits for the internals, they would rule the market. Hi Icolatwe, I *LOVE* the externals of my M27 and I agree with you VFC does a gorgeous JOB of getting it done *RIGHT*, however, the only issue I've had with my gun has been the bolt. While most people hear would argue that you shouldn't need to purchase an extra bolt just to get your gun to work and that it should work right out of the door. I'll argue that for $35USD, it's not really much of an issue... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3vi1-D4n Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Got a pic of the broken 416 bolt? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
silver colored wolf Posted May 18, 2013 Report Share Posted May 18, 2013 Hi, I recently got a 2012 version of 416. I like to express my impression about vfc 416 after spenting 4000 BBs. Luckily, I don't have any issue with the BCG yet. (Plz, note that I used 134a insteed of the propane due to a power limit-under 300 fps- in Korea.) I think the vfc have made a great improvement regarding faulty layout and pot metal internals exept a steel bolt catch. However, you can achieve better performance and durability by altering your habit and some cheap part. First of all, never push the bot catch when reloading a new mag becaue a steel bolt stop tear down BCG slowly. Just use the charging handle which will keep your zinc ally lower part of BCG longer. Second, never fire without a mag. Dryfiring will break the lower reciever and a firing pin returing spring( this spring is always a problem because of coarse quality.) Last, change a loading nozzle returing spring with a better and stronger one. This beacause the weak original spring causes bad bb loading due to not enough retreat to the point of new bb in the mag. P.S: Pot metal BCG eventually will be teared down some day even though changing your loading habit, but today. Get a new one, it is cheap regarding fancy, pricy aftermarket brands. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inq Eisenhorn Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 Dryfiring will break the lower reciever Say what?!?!?!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L2E Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 Say what?!?!?!! Yeah, not following either. There are no extra forces imparted to the lower with or without a magazine inserted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3vi1-D4n Posted July 12, 2013 Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 (edited) If you dry fire without a mag on a VFC M4, the firing pin will be hammered against the inside of the lower receiver (where it houses the firing pin), resulting in the lower receiver breaking and firing pin falling out. The fix is to shorten the firing pin from the hammer end, by about 3mm. The other solution is to dry fire only when you put you finger on the firing pin, preventing the firing pin to impact too hard against the lower receiver. Unfortunately, over shortening will result in decrease in power and sporatic full auto performance. Edited July 12, 2013 by 3vi1-D4n Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L2E Posted July 13, 2013 Report Share Posted July 13, 2013 If you dry fire without a mag on a VFC M4, the firing pin will be hammered against the inside of the lower receiver (where it houses the firing pin), resulting in the lower receiver breaking and firing pin falling out. The fix is to shorten the firing pin from the hammer end, by about 3mm. The other solution is to dry fire only when you put you finger on the firing pin, preventing the firing pin to impact too hard against the lower receiver. Unfortunately, over shortening will result in decrease in power and sporatic full auto performance. Hmm, I will check the protrustion with and without a mag. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wilekcmc Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 I just picked up a VFC 416C GBB and I wonder about the mags for it, I can never tell when it is full of gas. Is it the mags or is there a differnt type of fill vaule that will blow back when the mag is full? Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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