notrabies Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 Oh okay, now I understand it. I was thinking that the extractor needed to hit the o-ring, but the way its actually working is that the o-ring is minimizing time and distance traveled before the shell hits the extractor, thus lowering the force during impact. Now I''m confident enough to start turning heads at the local CQB place. Have you tried contacting the company about the steel yet? 2 weeks should allow enough time for delivery anywhere in the world unless customs got involved, which wouldn't make sense for steel. Link to post Share on other sites
notrabies Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 So in exciting news I got to skirmish my M1100 today, and it was phenomenal. 8 shots per shell is a bit much, but the spread is awesome and the fear factor is insane. Only 2 hit calling issues all day long, and those were very quickly resolved with a follow up shot. I cannot wait to get the folding M1014 stock on this system, since the length was the only thing that held me back, but its good as it is. Link to post Share on other sites
Vercingetorix Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 You can get a cheap ATI stock on it and run the gas off an external rig as is. Link to post Share on other sites
Bando Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 hows this all coming along sofar? after haveing a go with an m1100 i really want one and the m1014 is my fav shottie so this thread is ace. Link to post Share on other sites
Schaap Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 - It's coming - I finally got the steel for the punch and die. Unfortunately, the magazine tubes still aren't done... Man, things would be so much easier if I had a lathe! The following weeks are going to be very busy for me, but I'll try to mill the guiding blocks for the punch and die. Making a die isn't exactly something you want to rush, though! Everything takes a lot of time, and I was kind of hoping the carrier wouldn't be all that difficult to make. Oh boy, how wrong was I! However, the more I read these "scattering carrier horror stories", the more I'm sure that this part deserves all the attention it gets. As for the rest of the shotgun: there isn't that much left to do. The magazine tube is basically what holds this shotgun together! I hate to say this, but funding it all is one of the biggest challenges at the moment. Good tooling and fixtures is incredibly expensive. I've been designing a few fixtures and making toolpaths for producing the shotgun in a more cost-effective way. Most time goes into changing fixtures and tools (I have to do them by hand), so producing them in larger quantities (PMs welcome) would definitely make life easier for me. Link to post Share on other sites
Bando Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 i might be able to send some diddly your way lemme check my bank account nopromises.jpg (poor and unemployed shotgun addict) Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 I don't know if this would work but http://www.kickstarter.com/ might be useful for trying to get a bit of revenue to develop your project. Link to post Share on other sites
Bando Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 if you could make cheap cartridges to go with this i would have your internet babies aswell XD Link to post Share on other sites
Schaap Posted May 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 LOL! It's not -THAT- bad... I meant it will take a little while to get things together. Because the sun was shining anyway, I thought I'd give her a go: Link to post Share on other sites
Bando Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 brb going to get "i <3 schaap" on to every t-shirt i own Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 You sir are a *bramston pickle*. Exellent exellent weapon. Link to post Share on other sites
vorpalbunnie Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Jeezus loves you Schaap! Can't wait to see its finished externals! Link to post Share on other sites
Bando Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 just my daily schaap is awesome post XD also whats the gas system going to be for this? Link to post Share on other sites
Schaap Posted May 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Thank you guys, I really appreciate those comments! For those of you who do not own a Double Eagle M1014 yet, a few stores seem to have it back in stock... great news! Some brass bushings for the punch & die came in on friday, all that is left is receiving the proper cutters.. and some time to get started on the project! ETA end of June, early Juli. I've ordered a pretty huge amount (enough for 10+ rails) of EGW picatinny rail extrusions. The rail is one of the things I've been looking forward to machining since the beginning (besides finishing the whole darn thing ) I still hope someone (uscmCorps, if you read this...) pops up with accurate measurements on the bolt spacing of the rail! EDIT: Just read your post Bando. The gas system is TBD. I've had a lot of questions regarding this. Some are willing to use an external rig. Benefits are easy installing, 'infinite shooting' and higher power. An internal magazine would be at preference for most users, but while the interchangeable system as original M1100 is pretty good, the cartridges cannot be found easily and leak on propane/GG. It would also be one hell of a work to made the cartridges fit the grip. Plastic.. yuk! A viable solution for those who would want an internal gas storage would be a full stock; I think! Link to post Share on other sites
notrabies Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Random question about the gas system: Is the stock tube large enough to fit a CO2 capsule? If it is wouldn't that offer a super easy to swap and easy to carry gas solution? Best of luck on those mag tubes by the way, it looks great so far! Link to post Share on other sites
Schaap Posted June 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Gee... It has almost been a week since you posted; sorry about that! The stock tube cannot fit a CO2-capsule. It would indeed be an easy way (the M1100 is pretty gas efficient anyway) for sure. However, regulating the pressure to an acceptable limit would be a whole other issue... I finally had some free time to work on the project again. I (almost) finished the holder/guidance plates for the punch and die. It was a lot to machine, but it came out pretty well. The whole punch & die thing should be finished by the end of july.. I hope you guys can still wait! Link to post Share on other sites
Bando Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 any updates schaap? Link to post Share on other sites
10-32 Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 I would definitely be interested in purchasing any kind of useable M1014/benelli M4. Link to post Share on other sites
Typewriter Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 That is awesome. Simply awesome. Link to post Share on other sites
notrabies Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 So since I joined in on this thread, I'm now up to 3 Maruzen shotguns and I have no problem butchering one for your super secret amazing kit. Godspeed Schaap! Link to post Share on other sites
Schaap Posted August 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 Almost two months since my last update... wooo :-/ There has been a lot of changes in my personal life (graduated, job,...)... but, things are settling now, and I'm ready to make some free time for this project again! I made some plastic calipers to hold the picatinny rail in my vice, so I could cut it to length and mill out the grooves. So making rails is now just a matter of clamping and pushing the "GO" button. Nice. As far as the lifter/shell carrier goes, I will laser cut 10-20 carrier blanks out of 1.5mm thick aluminum. I'll keep you guys informed. Link to post Share on other sites
Leon Kennedy Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 This is amazing...wonderful looking project. I'll be awaiting more. Link to post Share on other sites
notrabies Posted August 28, 2011 Report Share Posted August 28, 2011 I think you can pretty much sign me up for 3 lifters if you'd like, and have you given any thought to improving the extractor? I don't have the tools to tap holes, (or the confidence to do so) so unless I can arrange with someone else, I'm not gonna have too much luck with a beautiful M1014 lasting very long. On a somewhat related note, does anyone mind sharing what I'd need to run one of these off external air/CO2? I have no experience with external setups so I'm afraid I'm rather clueless, besides needing a tank, a line, and a regulator. Link to post Share on other sites
Schaap Posted September 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 I'll keep working on the M1014/M1100 until it is flawless... It does take a lot of time and patience. For that, thank you those who still follow this project! I drilled the holes in the rail, but more importantly and exciting... I found some time to make these: I can't wait to punch the first one into shape! Link to post Share on other sites
Deve Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Oooh, shiney! Been keeping an eye out on this thread, great work so far Schaap. I'm another one who'd definately sign up for a few shell lifters to get a couple of my shotties back up and running without the fear of terminal breaking. Link to post Share on other sites
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