frogfish Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 (edited) hey guys an update, with a RA tech tightbore and h-hop rubber shooting 350 w .28g BB ( a little hard) I'm getting about 202 ft average range with true flight, and BBs ranging out past that on the drop after the hop. I do have a few interesting things though, about 1 in every five shots I got from 400-405 up to about 415FPS w/.2g BB is there anything I can do to fix this? Anyone have anything bad to say about the RA tech NPAS? Just to verify all open bolt NPAS valves fit open bolt weapons right, so this will work? http://www.airsoftpost.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_580&products_id=34200 Edited June 15, 2011 by frogfish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reppyboyo Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Yes, the open bolt npas works in all open bolt gbbrs. Gas is inconsistent, so you will unlikely be able to fix the spike to 415. It just happens and can just as easily go the other way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shabby Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 My G39E should be getting here on Tuesday! Also, has anyone had issues with their scope not holding a zero? I didn't think of the recoil when I ordered a fairly cheap scope for it, but it's a little late now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reppyboyo Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Depends on the scope, heard that most replicas wont. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atsalakotos Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 My G39E should be getting here on Tuesday! Also, has anyone had issues with their scope not holding a zero? I didn't think of the recoil when I ordered a fairly cheap scope for it, but it's a little late now. My G&P Aimpoint holds zero just fine, but the recoil kept loosening the mount, so I used threadlock. In my opinion G&P Optics are really good quallity and usually the same price (Or even cheaper!!) as the China made ones. (Got my aimpoint for around 35 Euros) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shabby Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 (edited) My G&P Aimpoint holds zero just fine, but the recoil kept loosening the mount, so I used threadlock. In my opinion G&P Optics are really good quallity and usually the same price (Or even cheaper!!) as the China made ones. (Got my aimpoint for around 35 Euros) Hmmm, I'll have to look into it. I don't mind if it doesn't work with the G39, I'll just slap it on my AEG. Thanks! **EDIT** I'm looking more for a scope with adjustable zoom. I'm going to use the G39E as a DMR. Edited June 16, 2011 by Shabby Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kullwarrior Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Hmmm, I'll have to look into it. I don't mind if it doesn't work with the G39, I'll just slap it on my AEG. Thanks! **EDIT** I'm looking more for a scope with adjustable zoom. I'm going to use the G39E as a DMR. Depends what you get in G&P, some are awesome, some are pure ######. I had a G&P one where the recoil of a Magna GBBR rifle (WA style) would turn the sight off/on with every shot. Since you're in the states, consider getting Primary Arms, they're good. except they won't ship to Canada despite being legally to do so. (<$100 is not an ITAR item) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kruck Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 For reference, my G&P eotech 552 held up perfectly for the 2-3k rds I used my G39 for It's going to go on my OB M4 too when it turns up... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spencerman Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 I think that generally the cheap optics dont hold thier zero, mainly because they are cheap. I have the cheapest of the cheap dual optic on my G39 at the moment, and although I havent actually zeroed it as it is not too far out and all 3 optics line up perfectly, it has not adjusted itself at all, if that is any help. I know that the recoil of a gas airsoft gun is not the same as a real rifle, but if you use any real optics, cheap or not, they should in theory be designed to handle the recoil and shake thier insides to pieces. If it is adjustable zoom that you are after, have you considered using an EoTech holographic image projection sight, like a 552 or something similar, along with an EoTech flip to side magnifyer. They should be easy to find in the states (but dont buy cheap airsoft ones as they do break easily) and are awesome to actually use. Dont get me wrong, you may be able to find an airsoft 551 or 552 or similar that will work fine under the small recoil of a gas gun like the one mentioned above, but they are all cheap and do not work in the same way when compared to a real one, but more like a cheap red dot, and they are meant to go on replica guns, and replica guns dont have much recoil if any at all, so there is no need to build them to withstand any. They are however also much cheaper to replace if the lens gets shot and broken, so I would also invest in a lens protector if you do get a proper one of these, just to be on the safe side. I dont knock cheap, I like cheap, not everyone has deep pockets and it serves its purpose, but I dont know what sort of budget you are looking to spend, and you can still get some pretty decent buys that are a good value for what you get. Personally, I am cheap when it comes to airsoft stuff, I can and have spent several hundreds on guns, but cheaped it on the little parts or accessories. It depends what you expect from it. The last replica EoTech I bought (I dont know the make I am afraid) only cost me £10 because it had the very problem we are talking about, it didnt hold its zero, but I only wanted it for appearance so I didnt even care if it worked or not at all. I have my dual optic (cost me about $70 in total) on mine purely to make the gun fit the look that I want at the moment. I dont use the optics as such anyway at the moment, as I normally dont use optics, so for me the look is what matters more and as long as that works, cheap does fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shabby Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 Yeah, I was asking about cheaper scopes because I unfortunately don't have a limitless budget. But thanks for the input though. Also, I'm not familiar with the term "Dual Optic" Is that like an ACOG with a red dot on top of it? Pretty two separate optic systems in one? Or were you referring to an EOTech with a flip up magnifier behind it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordElpus Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 as in the g36 optic carryhandle with built on reddot sight Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spencerman Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 LordElpus beat me to it! Yes, it is exactly that, and in case I confused you about all three being lined up, the carry handle has a built in magnifyer, I think it is about 3.5x but not sure, then the bolt on top part (clamps onto a standard rail, so you could probably just use this on its own if you wanted) has a red dot scope (non magnifying) and a laser! I personally if I am budget restricted on something like this, would go for the cheapest one that I can find that ticks most of my boxes, that way if it breaks I havent lost as much, but that is just me, cheap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ollie_ty Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 If you're referring to the ARES Dual Optic, that top section DOES NOT attatch to a 20mm Rail, it sits in place of the 20mm rail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spencerman Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 That is true, I forgot to mention that it does come as a complete fixed one piece unit, but my set up uses the two peice sectional method to allow me to change parts as required. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atsalakotos Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 What do you guys think about getting a Railed Scope handle and then installing an Aimpoint Micro, will it sit too high? (Note I don't use a mask) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ollie_ty Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 What do you guys think about getting a Railed Scope handle and then installing an Aimpoint Micro, will it sit too high? (Note I don't use a mask) Sits about as high as the Z point does, as used by the Bundeswehr. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kullwarrior Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 What do you guys think about getting a Railed Scope handle and then installing an Aimpoint Micro, will it sit too high? (Note I don't use a mask) Well the sight over bore is the biggest issue you have to deal with. G36 w/ the Compact rail is approx 2" sight over bore, while this is not significant, it's roughtly 1" higher than the AR-15 which a lot of sights made co-witness with Aimpoint Micro w/ lowest mount would be too low in my opinion, you could co-witness, but the front iron sight will block too much picture Aimpoint Micro w/ LT660 mount would be too high, it's made for co-witinessing AR-15 triangle front sight EO-Tech on G36 despite KSK use it, It too high (After all KSK are the ones mount EO-Tech 550 on the Hensoldt 3.5X integrated carry handle sight w/ rail) Personally I use Aimppoint M4 style w/ the lowest mount, it's makes approximately 2.5" sight over bore but I'm willing to accept that for easy to use while using helmet, and plate carrier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryangolfvr6 Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 anybody know if anyones selling or knows where to get the magazine loading tube and rammer? Lost mine today and carnt seem to find anyone making or stocking them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Not sure why you need that loading kit. Standard king arms or Marui speed loader works with the little lip attachment. Just gotta find the right angle on the feeding lip and it gobbles the BBs like it was candy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Yup Pistol speedloader works wonders. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shabby Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 My G39E finally came in, feels amazing. I can't wait until I can get my propane adapter back from my friend to shoot it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ollie_ty Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Could you take a picture with the Handguard off, of the piston/gas assembly? + 1 picture with the gas assembly separated from the gun ( So I can see the piston) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shabby Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 (edited) Could you take a picture with the Handguard off, of the piston/gas assembly? + 1 picture with the gas assembly separated from the gun ( So I can see the piston) Sure thing. Edited June 22, 2011 by Shabby Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ollie_ty Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Thats great, Thank you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reppyboyo Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Your pictures make me want a full length G36 more. Come on WE where are those conversion kits! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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