1st Commando Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 they are out but no idea of where you might find them in stock Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reppyboyo Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Supposedly out the same time as the Idz stuff. That appeared about a week ago, the kits are still no-where to be seen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shabby Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 I'd love to have the new Idz stock, but I don't think anyone in the US has it yet. And I'm not about to spend $47 on shipping... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kullwarrior Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Supposedly out the same time as the Idz stuff. That appeared about a week ago, the kits are still no-where to be seen. IdZ Set is already out, conversion kit for G36 have not I'd love to have the new Idz stock, but I don't think anyone in the US has it yet. And I'm not about to spend $47 on shipping... I paid $33USD for shipping on 2 G36 nozzle set, 1 Complete G36 bolt carrier set, 1 IdZ set. Not sure why you have to pay $47 for just the IdZ (CWI Airsoft) Only issue is Canadapost is on strike, so they can't send in the parcel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reppyboyo Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 IdZ Set is already out, conversion kit for G36 have not According to a comment WE made on their youtube vid they came out the same time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danielsilva Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 According to a comment WE made on their youtube vid they came out the same time. I always take WE "official" release dates with a grain of salt .... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reppyboyo Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 True but Im still remaining optimistic. Been tempted to buy a whole G36E but I know as soon as I do that the conversion will come out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reppyboyo Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 (edited) Just been testing my G39C with teflon tape on the hop. Wasnt needed as much but there was a small amount of play in the hop. Anyway, Im finding my g39 is now massively inconsistent. Firefly soft hop + teflon + new type npas = up to 100fps different between shots (!) Firefly soft + teflon removed + old type npas = 20-30fps difference with occasional low spikes - 50fps. (average 350, lowest 283). I dont understand why its suddenly gone to *suitcase*, is the npas really that bad somehow? EDIT: Retested just now. With .25`s it remained consistent about 350 +/- 6fps. The again with .2`s and it was about 365 +/- 10fps. So either my chrono is *fruitcage* with me or the g39 has gremlins. Edited June 22, 2011 by Reppyboyo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kullwarrior Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Just been testing my G39C with teflon tape on the hop. Wasnt needed as much but there was a small amount of play in the hop. Anyway, Im finding my g39 is now massively inconsistent. Firefly soft hop + teflon + new type npas = up to 100fps different between shots (!) Firefly soft + teflon removed + old type npas = 20-30fps difference with occasional low spikes - 50fps. (average 350, lowest 283). I dont understand why its suddenly gone to *suitcase*, is the npas really that bad somehow? EDIT: Retested just now. With .25`s it remained consistent about 350 +/- 6fps. The again with .2`s and it was about 365 +/- 10fps. So either my chrono is *fruitcage* with me or the g39 has gremlins. Have you consider the problem remain in the flute valve? The flute valve can be rotate, if the support point does the obstruct the gas flow, it will yield regular amount of gas moving under pressure. However, if a support point is in the way, it will obstruct and reduce the air flow thus causing the fps to be lower. Just something to consider even if you run HPA you will notice the difference in fps. As for the gun, why can't you just buy a G36E? its only $240. In Canada the WE distributor price is 480CDN (right now 1CDN = 1USD roughly) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reppyboyo Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 So you think I will see better consistency from cutting off two four the 4 posts? hmmm, although I dont have the tools to do it might be an interesting test. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kullwarrior Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 So you think I will see better consistency from cutting off two four the 4 posts? hmmm, although I dont have the tools to do it might be an interesting test. I'm thinking more in line of how to you glue the valve to the spring (just 1 coil of spring) and glue another coil on the other side to front of nozzle so that the valve will always be on the right side. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mnmc10 Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 So you think I will see better consistency from cutting off two four the 4 posts? hmmm, although I dont have the tools to do it might be an interesting test. ive done that before and the four pillars are too small to cause gas blockage. besides the gas just doesnt go in between the pillars it goes around the whole valve. so either which way the pillars are in position it will most likely produce the same fps. also cutting two pillars off doesnt increase fps either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reppyboyo Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Another day another round of testing. Old npas type + new falcon rubber yeilds the general consistency I usually see. New type npas results in fps going all over the shop. I seriously cant see why the new type npas is so inconsistent. It holds its setting fine, there is nothing structurally different from the old type apart from the adjuster which is now completely flat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spencerman Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 I would blame it on the Gremlins myself. They are probably the same Gremlins that brought down our planes in the big one. WWII. They are still shipping them over here, they put them in the cars, they put them in the tv, They even have these teeny little Gremlins that go in the watches. So, I would blame the Gremlins. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reppyboyo Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Gremlins sounds likely. Took it apart again, lubed everything. Even sprayed silicone on the valve itself. Re-test, its now more consistent than ever. o_0 So not sure what the hell I did but it worked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spencerman Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 If it worked then leave it alone. I have a habit of trying to improve things, and they end up in 1,000,000,000 pieces! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shabby Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Gremlins sounds likely. Took it apart again, lubed everything. Even sprayed silicone on the valve itself. Re-test, its now more consistent than ever. o_0 So not sure what the hell I did but it worked. Maybe the gremlins went on strike? Or perhaps they saw that I got a new gun and are on their way to my place. I mean, I got a lemon KWA SR-10, which I've had to drop another $100 into a $380 gun just to get it working again, and I still have parts I need to replace. (Had a bent gearbox in it, which caused tons of problems, but I only figured this out after the warranty ran out, and I opened up the gearbox to find all of the wear marks and a bushing in pieces.) Hopefully my G39 won't have any issues.... *death glare at gremlins.* Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryangolfvr6 Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Another day another round of testing. Old npas type + new falcon rubber yeilds the general consistency I usually see. New type npas results in fps going all over the shop. I seriously cant see why the new type npas is so inconsistent. It holds its setting fine, there is nothing structurally different from the old type apart from the adjuster which is now completely flat. I fiited a npas to my g39 the other week and have not had a problem at all with the fps going up or down at all? is it the same bgc your using on both old style and new style npas? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reppyboyo Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Indeed, I only have the one. Consistency is now around +/-5fps, averaging about 320. (bit lower when it starts to cool obviously) Going to test a little more later to make sure it doesn't spike above 350. Currently waiting for glue to dry as my hammer pin finally came out. First proper failure for my g39 after many thousand rounds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danielsilva Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Currently waiting for glue to dry as my hammer pin finally came out. First proper failure for my g39 after many thousand rounds. Lies! Just lies ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1st Commando Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Has anyone found a reliable way of reducing fps at the valve without using npas ? I'm not a big fan of npas and used reduced valves on my closed bolt WE rifles . Is it a case of adding shim to the rocket valve or is npas still our best bet ? Many Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reppyboyo Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 I would say NPAS is your easiest option. Shims would also do it though, you may need a lot of them though. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Indeed, I only have the one. Consistency is now around +/-5fps, averaging about 320. (bit lower when it starts to cool obviously) Going to test a little more later to make sure it doesn't spike above 350. Currently waiting for glue to dry as my hammer pin finally came out. First proper failure for my g39 after many thousand rounds. Glue wont work used superglie, then araldite, then cold weld. Still came out after about 150rds! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danielsilva Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Glue wont work used superglie, then araldite, then cold weld. Still came out after about 150rds! I've used epoxy with success, just make sure you really clean the parts first. In case you've noticed it too late and the hole is already damaged, unless it's damaged beyond repair, you might try to counterbore it so that the epoxy fills everything and "wraps" around the pin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mnmc10 Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 or replace the pin with a bolt and nut. a friend bought tiny bolts and nuts used for RC cars. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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