Bane Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 Just got this back from Airsoft Panda Dear Adrian , Good day! thank you very much for your enquiry! The estimated price for the Zeta-Labs Mosin Nagant would be under $300 USD , as the shipping weight with packing is still unknown , we are not able to inform you the exact shipping cost , the estimated range is $57~67 USD. As the upcoming Zeta-Labs Mosin Nagant is limited edition, please don't miss out =) Have a nice day! Link to post Share on other sites
ninja master of coffee Posted November 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 ######, limited edition.... I wonder how many units they'll actually make? Hopefully won't be some silly couple hundred world wide deal. This could come at a pretty anoying time for a lot of people, no money just after christmas and all. Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 tbf fair a couple hundred units is about all that'll shift now its not VSR internals, it'll be impossible to upgrade, just a wall hanger.. wait, you can get a REAL mosin for a wall hanger for less. Link to post Share on other sites
ninja master of coffee Posted November 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 Hmm, not impossible to upgrade, the spring at least will be possible to swap out and without knowing about the quality of the rest of the internals we can't really say it won't be at all servisable as skirmish weapon... That said I am, like most everyone here, rathe baffled as to why they decided to not make it a VSR based gun and only do a limited run.... Link to post Share on other sites
kken Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 well do we have confirmation that it will NOT be based on a non-KTW platform? Link to post Share on other sites
swtim255 Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 I so want one of these to do this to it Just kidding, I think my other guns would grow legs and walk out of the house if I brought something like that home, at the very least my m-4's would tease it unmercifully about it's looks! Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLite Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 I actually really like that fugly stick - it just needs a longer barrel IMO, with the scope mounted a little further back. Link to post Share on other sites
T0p Sp!N Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 Update: http://www.airsoftpanda.com/product_info.php/products_id/2097 Looks like the price is set at $369... I wonder what the 91/30 and the sniper set will cost. Floorplate detail is also interesting. Link to post Share on other sites
deepsix Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 While it wouldn't be accurate to anything (within my knowledge) this would be fun to hack into a De Lisle carbine configuration. Link to post Share on other sites
kken Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 great photos of the finished product... looks solid as hell. would like to get confirmation on the internals first tho. Link to post Share on other sites
T0p Sp!N Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 http://www.airsoftpanda.com/product_info.php/products_id/2097 In stock now at AirsoftPanda. Who's getting one/doing a review? Can't wait for the sniper set... -T.S. Link to post Share on other sites
T0p Sp!N Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 http://www.airsoftpanda.com/product_info.php/products_id/2291 Slings also on sale now, $18.50. I guess one isn't included with the rifle. Link to post Share on other sites
Frontiers Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 http://www.airsoftpanda.com/product_info.php/products_id/2291 Slings also on sale now, $18.50. I guess one isn't included with the rifle. kinda funny as it comes with the sling from the manufacturer, i guess panda decided to get maximum profit and sell it separately...nice one there (sell something that should come with it for free ) Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Have to admit that tactic00led nagant looks impressive, needs moar magpul though Back on topic, BB loading seems a bit weird to me and not very skirmishable although you are playing as sniper and have loads of time to reload quietly... I would have preferred a VSR10 mags sistem Link to post Share on other sites
T0p Sp!N Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Have to admit that tactic00led nagant looks impressive, needs moar magpul though Back on topic, BB loading seems a bit weird to me and not very skirmishable although you are playing as sniper and have loads of time to reload quietly... I would have preferred a VSR10 mags sistem It'd be nice if that, when the bolt is pulled back, the feed lip of the internal mag would be exposed, allowing you to refill it using a speed loader, faux clip-fed style. But, it's hard to tell from the pics and I can't seem to find any reviews or other shots of it. -T.S. Edit: I'm tempted to buy the carbine to check it out, but I'm certain I won't have any funds to get the sniper set if it ever comes out... Argh... Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Not a fan of the nagant, but if it had VSR internals it would be a great way to snipe in style and class (too many VSRs and L96 out there ) but seeing pics... well, I cant see it being very skirmishable, hope it performs good enough for the role or it will just be a nice wallhangerbackyardplinker Link to post Share on other sites
Ditht Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 I just went down to the airsoft panda shop and held, cocked, and fired the mosin nagant which is a 44 model. The gun feels odd, it felt like most of the weight was in the back instead of balanced like the Tanaka kar98k. The gun was full metal and wood like the website says. Compared to other bolt action rifles the bolt handle feels very short and when you rotate the bolt 90 degrees so it faces straight up it is actually hard to pull back. I had brace the stock against my leg to cock it. When I fully cocked the gun and the bolt was back I saw that it was quite short, probably for the aeg spring and piston, it is definately shorter than any vsr type internals I have seen. Also when pulled back all they way there is a gap infront of the bolt which looks odd and is unattractive. The trigger pull on the gun was very hard, the hardest on any gun I have ever fired, currently I own a we m4 and the trigger pull is much lighter compared to the zeta labs mosin. There is no magazine, I didn't check but I think you put individual bbs in the built in mag on the mosin. In hong kong it sells for 300 USD but I still would not buy it because it does not seem like the quality is there for that price. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 I just went down to the airsoft panda shop and held, cocked, and fired the mosin nagant which is a 44 model. The gun feels odd, it felt like most of the weight was in the back instead of balanced like the Tanaka kar98k. The gun was full metal and wood like the website says. Compared to other bolt action rifles the bolt handle feels very short and when you rotate the bolt 90 degrees so it faces straight up it is actually hard to pull back. I had brace the stock against my leg to cock it. When I fully cocked the gun and the bolt was back I saw that it was quite short, probably for the aeg spring and piston, it is definately shorter than any vsr type internals I have seen. Also when pulled back all they way there is a gap infront of the bolt which looks odd and is unattractive. The trigger pull on the gun was very hard, the hardest on any gun I have ever fired, currently I own a we m4 and the trigger pull is much lighter compared to the zeta labs mosin. There is no magazine, I didn't check but I think you put individual bbs in the built in mag on the mosin. In hong kong it sells for 300 USD but I still would not buy it because it does not seem like the quality is there for that price. Thanks for the overview mate! looks like another good looking useless/unskirmishable gun... Will wait and save in case the G&G K98 is a skirmishable springuer Link to post Share on other sites
T0p Sp!N Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Thanks for the overview mate! looks like another good looking useless/unskirmishable gun... Will wait and save in case the G&G K98 is a skirmishable springuer Hmmm, perhaps if a weaker spring was used and the internals were re-lubed, maybe cycling the bolt would be easier? Also, any ideas on what the fps is stock? Adjustable hop? Maybe if we're lucky, someone else will stock it at a more affordable price (or maybe someone will clone it...?). -T.S. Link to post Share on other sites
Grobut Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 I just went down to the airsoft panda shop and held, cocked, and fired the mosin nagant which is a 44 model. The gun feels odd, it felt like most of the weight was in the back instead of balanced like the Tanaka kar98k. The gun was full metal and wood like the website says. Compared to other bolt action rifles the bolt handle feels very short and when you rotate the bolt 90 degrees so it faces straight up it is actually hard to pull back. I had brace the stock against my leg to cock it. When I fully cocked the gun and the bolt was back I saw that it was quite short, probably for the aeg spring and piston, it is definately shorter than any vsr type internals I have seen. Also when pulled back all they way there is a gap infront of the bolt which looks odd and is unattractive. The trigger pull on the gun was very hard, the hardest on any gun I have ever fired, currently I own a we m4 and the trigger pull is much lighter compared to the zeta labs mosin. There is no magazine, I didn't check but I think you put individual bbs in the built in mag on the mosin. In hong kong it sells for 300 USD but I still would not buy it because it does not seem like the quality is there for that price. I think you may have expected too much of the gun just because of it's price tag, because i was fully expecting most of what you mentioned, heavy trigger, the odd shape of the bolt handle and heavy cocking, less than perfect weight balance, thease are all traits of the real rifle, and any reasonably faithfull replica of the Mosin Nagant would inherit thease traits in one way or another, the Mosin Nagant is a cumbersome brute of a thing, it's no sleek and smooth Enfield or Kar. The whole shape of the real gun just doesen't lend itself too well to a springloaded Airsoft gun, so i have never expected this to be as easy to work with as a VSR-10, people have run into the same problems trying to make Custom Mosin's, the more accurate the replica, the harder it gets to make it into a springer, so i was not expecting perfection from this gun either. But what do you think of the build quality? Did it feel solid and sturdy? Was there any wobble or rattle, anything that felt like it might be weak and break? How did the finish look? Link to post Share on other sites
T0p Sp!N Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 They now have a version 2 of the carbine: http://www.airsoftpanda.com/product_info.php/products_id/2330 Updates include: •Silver Cocking handle•Improvement hop-up chamber prevent BB backward when reload •Zeta-Lab Mosin Nagant Leather & Linen Sling is included Price is still $369. Link to post Share on other sites
jimmiroquai Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 Just read a first hand report at the CIA WW2 forum: 1) Takes AEG barrels and hop rubber 2) Takes AEG springs 3) Steel sears All i need to know. Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 Which kind of hop chamber does it use? IIRC if someone wants a precise and far shot he needs a GOOD hop chamber like the one in VSR10s or a decent one from an AEG,f its a propietary hop chamber its a nono for me. Could you post a ink to the review jimmiroquai? thanks Link to post Share on other sites
jimmiroquai Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 All I read from the review is that the Hop chamber is Aluminum. Not sure if it's proprietary. But even if it is, that's not necessarily a bad thing. For all we know it could be a better design than the VSR hop chamber...and it could be junk. But what's important is that it takes AEG barrels and hop rubbers...meaning even if the hop chamber was proprietary, it could be very workable/modifiable. Here's the link: http://www.ww2airsoft.org.uk/php/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=11695&start=30 And a new vid on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn6DZ22rEJE Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 well I suppose the proof is in the pudding. IF someone makes a skirmishable rifle out of it, then I'll be interested to see what they did and how much it cost. Otherwise it's still a waste of time, if I wanted a wall hanger I can get a real one for less. Link to post Share on other sites
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