Nailz Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Ah ok cool. I'll just check for it around then. No need to bother your work progress for my toy gun lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ollie_ty Posted April 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Pffff all i do is make chocolate, its not that time consuming! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailz Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Well in that case get on it bud!! Honestly I am just in deep need for the hammer pics which I'm sorry is a PITA for ya Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailz Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) Also, since starting to play Airsoft I've received a differet nick which is milkshake which is why one of my vids is under my YouTube channel milkshakechucker lol. Hope you like the vid and if all goes as planned ill have some new footage of dual-wielding MP9s. Man I love Thunder Bs Edited April 4, 2012 by Nailz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ollie_ty Posted April 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 (edited) I am trying with this MP9. I just can't figure out what to take out first! EDIT: Im gonna PM Amateurstuntman, see if he can help you out with this one. Edited April 5, 2012 by ollie_ty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
amateurstuntman Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 (edited) Hello. Sorry it's been too clear here for me to see the Stunt signal on the clouds. Actually, what does Batman do when it isn't cloudy? Eh? What you need to do is remove the cage with all the trigger mechanism parts in it. Separate the trigger mechanism from the trigger bar. Remove the 2 pins at the front of the mech cage (one on either side) and the one long one at the back (goes through both sides and through the trigger bar). Once they are out the whole mech cage should lift out and you can disassemble it separately. Bit of a fiddly job but shouldn't present too much of a problem. I've done it a few times but I don't have any pictures and I'm at work typing this from memory. I might get round to doing some this weekend. Edited April 5, 2012 by amateurstuntman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailz Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Thank you both. If you can come up with photos to help this fumbling soul I'd be in your debt but if it's too much of a PITA than I can just jump in with both feet and hope I don't end up shipping a bag of assorted metal to KWAUSA for assembly lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailz Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 (edited) Ok. I was able to get the trigger mech and trigger bar out in one piece without much issue so I skipped that step and then moved on to removing the pin that goes through the back of the trigger bar. From there I went for the mech cage. So, removing the front mech cage pins is a bit of a *badgeress* but doable. I used a flat head off of my leatherman wave to get in between the abs frame and the cage. A little bit of light cursing and muscle and I was able to get both sides up and out. Remove the two little screws on either side (long one on the left if you orient the GBB with you looking from the rear and muzzle forward) and then you can get the hammer out. Side note, the real PITA was getting the little 'wheel' pin in and out to swap it from the old hammer in to the new hammer. Jeez KWA, how about just selling your hammers with these already installed in the new ones eh? I'll pay the extra dollar to not have to deal with it. Pop on the spring and spring guide cylinder and put back in where you need to. Screw in screws and drop in the mech cage back into the lower receiver/frame of the GBB. Careful now, you over stress and crack it and there goes your structural integrity. Throw the trigger bar and trigger mech back in, screw down the hoyah that holds it in place and put the trigger spring back on and Bobs your uncle. I'll throw up the iPhone pics I took later tonight to try and help anyone else who may have to deal with this PITA. Thank you Ollie and amateurstuntman for your help, I couldn't have done with out you guys. Edited April 5, 2012 by Nailz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
amateurstuntman Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Awww shucks. <goes red> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailz Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 I shall dedicate all of my enemies screams to the two of you at the next skirmish muahahahaha. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailz Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Well unfortunately people weren't in a screaming mood but I did get a few for ya. you go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Love the dual-wielding, and noise! I read the thread, but for clarity - the KWA one has the FRP body, right? Which version of the KWA has the best trades? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ollie_ty Posted April 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 KWA/KSC is exactly the same. The KSC one has realistic trades, the ASG one has incorrect, but B&T trades, and the KWA one has terrible KWA trades. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 So if offered the choice, the KSC one is the one to get? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailz Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 If trades are your priority I suppose so. I rock two KWAs and am more concerned with performance than trades. Here's me looking sexah. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ollie_ty Posted April 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Yeah Id grab the KSC one if its not too much trouble. BUT MAKE SURE YOU GET THE SYSTEM 7 ONE! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sniperelite7 Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 *sigh* i'm pretty sure I posted in this thread before but can't find it. My KMP9's gas efficiency isn't working out to great, noticed during a game that my buddy would try to empty the mag on full auto(I told him 'Keep it on semi"), but it would run out of gas before it got to that point. Full magazine, filled properly, Mag isnt leaky, propane in 70F+ weather. What do you guys look for when solving gas efficiency problems? I believe the mag's seal is sitting properly against the cylinder. I have noticed that the gas release valve spits out gas along the seam of the "button" which the hammer hits, but have been told this is normal though. Any suggestions? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ollie_ty Posted May 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Stupid question: Are you using a brand new tan of propane? And how long are you filling the mags for? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sniperelite7 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Oh dear, you might have exposed me for the fraud I am. It isn't brand new, though when it was I probably got a mag and a half of full auto if I remember correctly. 2 Magazines if semi auto was used. Which still contradicts all the reports I saw of people getting 3+ magazines, full auto on a cold day. I fill it until it starts spitting propane back at me, then repeat that several times until i'm sure the magazine is full. I'm a relative idiot when it comes to gas in mag guns, being that I bought this shooter used i've always been wary of its performance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lasairiona Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Just bought one, a tan one with rail ^^. It's really loud, I didn't expect that :-D. I have made the bolt catch rounder, as shown on the thread ;-). When I tried to put a foregrip on it, the foregrip (one that came with my g&p sentry) doesn't fit... Has anyone else had the same problem? It's a beast :-D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vilerk Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 *sigh* i'm pretty sure I posted in this thread before but can't find it. My KMP9's gas efficiency isn't working out to great, noticed during a game that my buddy would try to empty the mag on full auto(I told him 'Keep it on semi"), but it would run out of gas before it got to that point. Full magazine, filled properly, Mag isnt leaky, propane in 70F+ weather. What do you guys look for when solving gas efficiency problems? I believe the mag's seal is sitting properly against the cylinder. I have noticed that the gas release valve spits out gas along the seam of the "button" which the hammer hits, but have been told this is normal though. Any suggestions? Does your KMP9 have the green piston seal or the orange? Try shimming the gas route rubber on the mag with a piece of cardstock, that's what I did to mine to improve efficiency. Also make sure the valve knocker and valve knocker lock move smoothly. My KMP9 has a recoil weight installed, and I'm able to get just about 1 mag on propane doing a full auto dump. I'm going to soak the release valve in silicone oil for a couple hours, and see if that improves efficiency. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ollie_ty Posted May 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 I've NEVER had 3 full dumps of full auto out of mine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GingaNinga Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 Hi All, 2 quick questions. I live in Japan and am very interested in picking up one of these. I will most likely only use HFC gas with it. The first page spoke of some of the differences in the different models, but the image is no longer there to view the comparisons. At the top of this page is a clear message to get the Sytem 7 version. How do I tell what version I am getting when I buy? I have found a KSC Taiwan in Tan for under 200 that I am interested in buying, but wanted to check that it's the "right" one before buying. Will all KSC branded mags work with each other, regardless of Japan or Taiwan version? Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sniperelite7 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 Mmm never believe everything you see on the internet then. My kmp9 has the green piston seal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ollie_ty Posted May 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 Yeah the mags are all the same, AS LONG as they are S7. The easiest way to tell is to look at the magazine follower itself. On the system 7 ones, the follower can be manipulated from the front, whereas the non System 7 one is done from the side like THIS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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