3vi1-D4n Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 Yeah saw the Hi-power, I was like, darn. I held off my CZ75 purchase because of this. As for power, I am speaking of comparing propane platforms only, as anyone can stick a CO2 regulator on a magazine and have it working at 600fps. The WE open chamber nozzle flow are very unoptimised compared with their close chamber system. If only WE sorted their leaky M4 mags I may have kept my closed chamber M4 as it was a good 460fps at 15*C with a 0.25g with a 10" barrel. For the type of activity I use these on, getting hit is not an option and the higher the FPS the better the overall experience. Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 The WE open chamber nozzle flow are very unoptimised compared with their close chamber system. If only WE sorted their leaky M4 mags I may have kept my closed chamber M4 as it was a good 460fps at 15*C with a 0.25g with a 10" barrel. WE M4 users who have bought newer mags are chiming in that they're leak proof. The last mag I bought almost the start of the year hasn't leaked at all. Danielsilva (I think it was you) says they've applied some sort of adhesive to the gasket in the mag for a more permanent seal. Works, so long as you don't open up your mag, to which you shouldn't have any reason for anyway. On the open bolt systems, I have heard of some being upgraded to shoot near 500fps with just green gas, a little more on red. Not sure on the exact mods myself, but at least with the Marui system (which they've pretty much copied) changing the floating valve spring for a stiffer one does a lot in upping the power on longer barreled guns. Tried it on my 1911 that used to do 280fps with .25g bbs and propane, after the mod was doing 360fps. Link to post Share on other sites
jond36 Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 It looks good, but it also looks like it definately needs some more work before completed. Link to post Share on other sites
frogfish Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 I wonder if they'll make the recoil stronger than the real deal...... Otherwise, this is a definite want. Link to post Share on other sites
-Clover- Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 Evike vid w/ english-subtitles: Licensed FN trademarks? This is definitely on my to-buy list. Have been VERY pleased with my G39C. (the Stargate-fan in me jizzed when I saw the video) Link to post Share on other sites
rolling-thunder Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 Ok,for the benefit of the WE Tech execs. I would like & would buy the WE90 if you made it available.Please make it CO2 compatible,i live in the UK {or the big popsicle as it is at the moment } so CO2 is needed. I think that is plain enough? Oh while we are at it,could you please release the Browning Hi Power & the L85 ASAP.Ta! Link to post Share on other sites
faramon Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 I love that subbed version that is brilliant makes me lol a little and I think his Oooo noise is awesome .. like he is holding gods junk or something . Link to post Share on other sites
rusTORK Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 So, it's mean what Evike confirm, what P90 will see the light? They have got even more info about it (FNH markings). Link to post Share on other sites
danielsilva Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 WE M4 users who have bought newer mags are chiming in that they're leak proof. The last mag I bought almost the start of the year hasn't leaked at all. Danielsilva (I think it was you) says they've applied some sort of adhesive to the gasket in the mag for a more permanent seal. Works, so long as you don't open up your mag, to which you shouldn't have any reason for anyway. I bought 5 of the newer GG mags and none of them leaked out of the box, then they spent a few weaks in a container in the Czech Republic until i got there, filled them up and voilá. No leaks! One of them developed a very small leak in the spine after getting dropped hard on the floor but it was readily fixed with a small rubber hammer ( the back "spine" was bent ). I actually opened up one to see what secret sauce they had done to stop the leaks and found the rubber seal to be completely "fused" with the mag shell. Very good to stop those leaks but if you open one up, get ready to buy a new seal cause after you take it out it goes straight to the garbage bin. Link to post Share on other sites
faramon Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 I bought 5 of the newer GG mags and none of them leaked out of the box, then they spent a few weaks in a container in the Czech Republic until i got there, filled them up and voilá. No leaks! I was so expecting that sentence to end in you saying they were leaky suddenly . Link to post Share on other sites
danielsilva Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 I was so expecting that sentence to end in you saying they were leaky suddenly . No, but the did give me feeding problems Somehow the feeding lips were a bit too "narrow", more like they were the EXACT width of the nozzle and the nozzle was hitting the feeding lips every shot. They just had to break in though ... Link to post Share on other sites
faramon Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 Speaking of mag's those P90 mags did look pretty chunky, but in my head this seems more of a positive (I don't mind a bit of weight on things). Link to post Share on other sites
DamnLion Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 FN H Trademarks? **** yes. Link to post Share on other sites
trinco Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 some spy photos that ive found... Link to post Share on other sites
frogfish Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 I can see this not costing much more than the TM. In all honesty this would be one gbbr I would purchase regardless of performance. Link to post Share on other sites
deepsix Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 This holds some interesting promise for those who like to tinker. The Mag holds only gas... and the valve is in the gun. This means two things: the gun SHOULD be more consistent since there is only one valve ever regulating gas flow, dwell time, etc... unlike having several magazines with different valves which could have varying O ring wear, spring tension, etc... ALSO, this means you can tap directly into the valve and feed it from an external regulated bulk source (for those that don't mind). This way you could mod a TM mag, and then use regulated Co2 externally, resulting in WAY more consistent output. This could be a Very skirmishable gun.... Link to post Share on other sites
-Clover- Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 I can see this not costing much more than the TM. In all honesty this would be one gbbr I would purchase regardless of performance. You and me both! Link to post Share on other sites
Riko Posted December 8, 2010 Report Share Posted December 8, 2010 I hit James fast question about release date, and here is answer (very fast. approx. 1 hour). So, we want it. Now need to tell WE-Tech that. there I already sent WE a message on youtube! I suggest everybody that wants this to be released to do the same Link to post Share on other sites
faramon Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 I think this is short to become my no 1 want for next year. Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Snap. Could be a WE year for me, this and the browning, I want (If they are both released in 12011, that is). Link to post Share on other sites
ultimentra Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 I sent a message to their youtube account WEAIRSOFT. Hopefully they go through with this, and it performs as well as an AEG does. Also, GBB FN2000. Yes. Hell Yes. Link to post Share on other sites
rusTORK Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Added comment on their YouTube channel too. If your not too lazy, please do the same. Link to post Share on other sites
rusTORK Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 Also i have sent message to James and ask, what we must do to see P90 in shops ASAP. And here is answer: Hi Felix: There's ONLY one way we will release the P90; that is withofficial licensing from FNH. You are indeed writing to the wrong people if you really want it. You should write to FNH and/or Cybergun (who hold the airsoft licensing rights for FNH). The more people write them, the more they will understand the good opportunity to release such a gun. I have already notify them about our possible P90, they said they are very excited, but yet no more news from them.... may be they think not enough people want it. I would strongly suggest that you guys who really want the P90, should go on every forum & start a petition to FNH & Cybergun. This will make their decision making easier I think Again, any new guns now is not up to us, but the real gun licensing authority. We will not release the prototype gun without proper licensing agreement. This is the fact. We wait for response from the companies & we can release the gun tomorrow So if you guys want it bad enough, don't ask us (we already made it), you should ask those gun & licensing companies who hold the license to these & all future guns. Kindest Regards, James So, it's pretty clear right now. Link to post Share on other sites
Riko Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 *fruitcage*ed, i dont see cybergun giving away permission to competetors. Nor do I see FN giving away extra license to WE. Cant we release one like they did with the g36, calling it g39? They could call it the WE P80.... Link to post Share on other sites
Mike_West Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 Well, Cybergun has a lot to earn on this gun. They just have to sign an agreement with WE: "You make it, we sell it, you get money, and we get too." Link to post Share on other sites
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