Honzo Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 wow, echigoya shipping for the scar is like 100$... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TK4235 Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 For some reason am looking at whether I really need this or not! Or perhaps I'm becoming a EBB hoarder!! Lol Off topic.. I do fancy a PTW but can't justify that much on a single gun.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Honzo Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 buy another one so i dont feel bad too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 (edited) Off topic.. I do fancy a PTW but can't justify that much on a single gun.... When you already have a TM EBB M4? Honest medical inquiry: Has someone twatted you up 'round the head with any sort of hard object recently? Edited September 22, 2011 by CKinnerley 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
druid799 Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 (edited) let me think ; buy a Scar or a PTW , Senario 1 ; spend the day scurmishing with big grin on face . get home , clean said Scar put said Scar away till next scurmish . OR Senario 2 ; buy PTW spend day scurmishing and worrying is it going to make it to the end of the day ? Get home , attempt to fix whats gone wrong with said PTW (and we all know it will happen) ? i know wich way i"d be leaning Edited September 22, 2011 by druid799 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Number5 Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 DO NOT BUY A PTW. anyone who says their PTW is awsome/excelent/has not had problems/does not have problems/etc is a lier. At a very serious milsim game recently a guy popped around a corner and opened up towards 3 of us stacked on a wall from about 10m's away. I side stepped, drew my p226 and picked him off only for the guy to say sarcastically "Didnt I get any of you then" (as he assumed we'd all been hit of course with his super machine) and all of us calmly replied 'NO' safe in the knowledge that none of us had felt a bean and had it been a real firearm all the shots would have gone wide and the gun jammed and exploded killing said 'operator' (at least if systema made real firearms) Seriously thoyugh, PTW's are expensive to buy, expensive to improve out of the box, expensive to maintain and so tempremental they should be nicknamed 'precious' and they aint even that good. TM sopmod (or other TM EBB), eagle 6 spring and your sorted. when the Raptor comes out for it it will literally be 10 times better than what a PTW promises (and does not deliver) as apposed to the already 5 times better it currently is. Just my opinion of course Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TK4235 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 When you already have a TM EBB M4? Honest medical inquiry: Has someone twatted you up 'round the head with any sort of hard object recently? CK Lol.... Must be the tequila I'm drinking on vacation and all the hot sunshine that's making me loopy...lol You guys are right. It was a silly notion I had. I asked a few questions on the PTW forum and I guess the PTW users were rubbing me up the wrong way....and I got led astray. I just gotta get my mods put into the sopmod an then see how it performs... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TK4235 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) Going back to the SCARL, I'm seriously considering selling the MASADA to buy a black SCARL. You guys are right.... Why on earth do I need a PTW!!! I must have been off my knocker to be thinking that... Lol Edited September 23, 2011 by TK4235 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Honzo Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 with the price of a PTW, you could buy TWO TM ebbs... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hatchet Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 SCAR-L CQC is up on Marui's website for those that prefer the shorter look... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
druid799 Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 SCAR-L CQC is up on Marui's website for those that prefer the shorter look... Bugger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TK4235 Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 Bugger This is not the SCAR-L CQC you're looking for.... Move along... Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TK4235 Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 (edited) Edited September 30, 2011 by TK4235 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TK4235 Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 Even I'm moved by the CQC! They really do look good! The big question in my mind would be what is the difference if any between the L and the CQC interms of accuracy and groupings (essentially standard barrel vs shorter one).... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 I reckon a short version with a good tightbore could easily match the standard version with a stock barrel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnakChan Posted October 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 I can't remember if it was asked on this thread or if it was asked elsewhere but someone was asking if Echigoya was going to make a heavier recoil unit for the SCAR-L the way they made the SURUS for the Sopmod. He felt the standard TM-SCAR-L's recoil weight was heavy enough and it wouldn't make sense to make a heavier recoil weight as it'll weaken the mechbox. So for now, it looks like the kick of the standard TM-SCAR-L is all you'll get. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akiraspeedstar Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 I was never a big SCAR fan, but that's sexy as *fruitcage* haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Interficium Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Odd that they're coming out with an entirely new model for that, I wonder if they changed anything except for the outer barrel. Should have done a SCAR-H CQC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Number5 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 I have not felt the recoil of a Scar (real or TM) but the Real Scar is supposed to have a very managable Recoil (read low) so perhaps its more prudent to stick with what the TM already has (even though it wont be near to the RS;) ) although if (actually: When) I get a Scar L I'll probably want a heavier recoil! Shame making the recoil heavier would put the gearbox in jepardy. Perhaps when/if Laylax release a reinforced GB we could have heavier recoil!? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnakChan Posted October 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 I did inquire bout the a reinforced GB but it seems this time TM has got a patent on the Recoil Engine GBs. Presumably that the patent is local Japan rather than international so locally at least, it's somewhat of a showstopper for others to copy (and improve) the design without paying royalties to TM. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
druid799 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Does it really need more recoil that much ? Have to say mines got a very nice 'snap' to it as is . Can't help thinking if your going to want more recoil in it I'd say "go gas" and swing towards the WE Scars , it's easy enuf sticking the replacement recoil engine in the Sopmod/Socom's but when your start talking about basically completely re-building the internals of the Scar I think is there really that much point ? The TM is such a sweet gun as is . Just my two penneth worth . :-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Number5 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Everyone set your faces to stunned! Check out the news threads and/or the TM web page and see what they will be releaseing next..... try not to explode in you pants immediately. SCAR-H! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Interficium Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Everyone set your faces to stunned! Check out the news threads and/or the TM web page and see what they will be releaseing next..... try not to explode in you pants immediately. SCAR-H! It's like I made it happen with my mind. Now watch Marui not come out with lower receiver conversion kits for us existing SCAR owners Quote Link to post Share on other sites
druid799 Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Double bugger with a side order of 'oh my bleeding bank account !' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Now watch Marui not come out with lower receiver conversion kits for us existing SCAR owners I'm not sure the lowers are interchangeable between calibres. Far as I'm aware, the upper used on the H is of different dimensions to the L, similar to the difference found between AR-10 and AR-15 variants. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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