druid799 Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 (edited) In that case if was in your position i'd see if can find out what it was chronoing with him ,to try and work out a full history of the gun to see if I could see were the problem has come from . Edited December 31, 2011 by druid799 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TK4235 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 my socom shot 305 out of the box but the scar only had 287 avg Honzo, you also need to consider that 287fps is more or less the standard in Japan and perhaps this is why it's firing that. Still if others are doing around 300 fps thats still a mystery. If you know how to take the gearbox apart just check for compression issues. At the end of the day, the difference between 287 and 300 fps is marginal in the field. If the gun is accurate and fires straight, don't worry about it... But if you feel the need to tinker, then go ahead. There are loads of people here that can offer advice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TK4235 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Honzo, at 287fps using a 0.2g bb, you should easily and accurately hit a target at 30m. Infact, as the marui hops are very good, you should still hit out to 40m even at 287fps. My stock SOPMOD was doing that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
druid799 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Honzo, you also need to consider that 287fps is more or less the standard in Japan and perhaps this is why it's firing that. Still if others are doing around 300 fps thats still a mystery. Don't think there doing domestic and export versions (though if wrong some one please post up) have spoken to two people who've imported direct from Japan and both were firing over 308fps (mine from firesupport was doing 310 out of the box) and haven't come across any one under 305 (again if any ones was different please post up) so I'd have thought 287 is either a faulty gatt or a 'Friday afternoon' build ;-) . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TK4235 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Okey dokey, well it was just a thought.....oh well..... Friday builds... don't you just hate that time of the day... 310fps std out of the box... now that's respectable..... . I think it's bout time I retired my MASADA..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
druid799 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 310fps std out of the box... now that's respectable..... . I think it's bout time I retired my MASADA..... Yup 310 , one of the reasons I have absolutely no intention of cracking mine open to 'tinker' ! Most deffinetly a case of 'not broke don't fix' . Funnily enuff sale of a Masada whent a long way to paying for my Scar ! :-) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weekenny Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Might not be anything "wrong" with it, perhaps the spring was left compressed at some point? In which case an Eagle 6 spring and you're sorted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TK4235 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Funnily enuff sale of a Masada whent a long way to paying for my Scar ! :-) Do you think that's a sign? Lol Mmmmmm CQC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Honzo Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Tk, i was thinking that too. The gun seems to shoot far and well (like my socom/sopmods) and i doubt this guy would tinker with it and try to sell it to me falsely. It could be possibly that he forgot to leave the spring decompressed after use. Now im trying to think if the chrono actually read 287 or 297 haha. I've had two stock sopmods shoot 300 even and at times 297. The only recoil aeg i had shooting over 300 was my socom (but i bought that brand new from echigoya). So i believe druid if he says theres probably not an import version vs another. Hmmmmm, i dont want to tinker with it and mess it up even more! I'm terrible with these things what to do..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewpidbear Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 As Druid says, If it ain't broke don't fix it. Most people complain about faults only after they've "worked" on them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TK4235 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) As Druid says, If it ain't broke don't fix it. Most people complain about faults only after they've "worked" on them. Aye tis true..... mind you it's sure as hell fun trying.... I got obssessed with my SOPMOD not doing 345fps and spent weeks literally to get it to where I wanted it... and then I sold it! Duh! Now i'm gonna take the SOCOM apart and get that doing 345fps..... well at some point I will.... Anyway, back on topic.... Edited January 1, 2012 by TK4235 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tirpitz10 Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Out of ineterst my scar was chronoing at about 297 fps out of the box. It still has an impressive range on it though and I'm happy with it. Just need to get it wired for deans and a decent 7.4v lipo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
farrasdevell Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 http://www.ebairsoft.com/battleaxe-midcap-magazine-marui-recoil-shock-p-5325.html Hoi hoi, clone mags £10 a pop happy new year Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akiraspeedstar Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) That mad doesn't look that great, look at the bb area, it looks like someone took a file to it. Also is the mag plastic? Doesnt look metal. Overall I don't see it being worth saving only $10 (usd) for a cheapy looking magazine. Edited January 2, 2012 by akiraspeedstar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Josiah Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 My stock sopmod m4 is only shooting 0.49 joules I haven't done any upgrading, just using stock marui batteries One thing though, I noticed one of the pins in the receiver (not the big one, its labelled NGM4-23) has fallen out, I put it down to a cosmetic peice since the gun still functions, could it somehow be causing the problem, or is it a problem with my gearbox? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
druid799 Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 Unless my maths are off 0.49joules is 287fps right ? Which is prity much standard for for a stock socom/sopmod . It's only the Scars that are putting out 300plus FPS (or 93mps) . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TK4235 Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 My stock sopmod m4 is only shooting 0.49 joules I haven't done any upgrading, just using stock marui batteries One thing though, I noticed one of the pins in the receiver (not the big one, its labelled NGM4-23) has fallen out, I put it down to a cosmetic peice since the gun still functions, could it somehow be causing the problem, or is it a problem with my gearbox? No no, it's not cosmetic. It pins the gearbox to the receiver.... get a replacement.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Honzo Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 ill try to get a chrono and get an accurate reading on this scar. btw, can anyone comment on those cheap mags? i was thinking along the same lines as akira. the genuine mags have been so good to me despite how many times ive drop them (sometimes on hard concrete, not that i mean to!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GingaNinga Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 My stock sopmod m4 is only shooting 0.49 joules I haven't done any upgrading, just using stock marui batteries One thing though, I noticed one of the pins in the receiver (not the big one, its labelled NGM4-23) has fallen out, I put it down to a cosmetic peice since the gun still functions, could it somehow be causing the problem, or is it a problem with my gearbox? Is it the trigger lock pin? They seem to fall out fairly often, to the point that Laylax makes a screw in version. http://laylax.wn.shopserve.jp/SHOP/4560282765425.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 H is out, in case anybody was unaware. WGC and Echigoya. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TK4235 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Is it the trigger lock pin? They seem to fall out fairly often, to the point that Laylax makes a screw in version. http://laylax.wn.shopserve.jp/SHOP/4560282765425.html It's the same pin in the sopmod/socom (above the trigger)... best preventative measure is a small bit of black insulation tape over each end...or tan or DE whatever your gun colour is.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akiraspeedstar Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 I say go with the locking version, it's not that much at all and you won't have to worry about it. I lost my receiver pin on my CQB-R, came loose in a game and disappeared. I now have both locking pins installed to be safe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Honzo Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 So i was moving boxes and i saw the TM scar L box in the closet. One thing that i did not notice before is that you see, on the side, three flags (countries) then it says "next generation aeg". I see a US flag, japan, and china. obviously, they have a japan flag since it's japanese made. I guess the american is there because of the rifle itself being US socom based. Where does the china flag fit in? Just curious Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GingaNinga Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 These three flags are starting to appear on many of the boxes, and I think this is where they hold patents for their blowback system. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Interficium Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) Here's mine. Tokyo Marui Next Generation Scar-L Prometheus Hard Piston for Marui Gearbox New Version SCAR LayLax Adjustable Length Outer Barrel for Tokyo Marui Scar-L Prometheus Stainless Hard Cylinder Type C Prometheus Piston Head for Marui Gearbox New V2 Prometheus Air Seal Nozzle for Marui Gearbox New V2 Prometheus Aero Cylinder Head for Marui Gearbox New V2 Prometheus Bearing Spring Guide for SOPMOD M4 (New Ver.2) Prometheus EG Double Torque Hard Gear Set for Marui Shoot & Recoil New Ver.1/2 Lonex Cut-Off Lever for Marui M4 Gearbox New V2 AEG Lonex Enhanced Anti-Reversal Latch for Marui M4 Gearbox New V2 AEG Prometheus 6mm Bearing Axle Hole Prometheus 6.05 ASH Barrel for G36K/M733/MC51+/M1A1 AEG (300mm) SpecterDR sty 4X Magnifier Scope w/ Illuminated Dot Madbull Noveske KFH Magpul XTM Rail Panels VFC EGLM 40mm Grenade Launcher For SCAR ASC MK16 Airsoft Research Syndicate Cylinder Head Sorbo Eagle6 Airsoft M120 spring for Marui Gearbox New V2 G&P M160 motor Edited January 11, 2012 by Interficium Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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