Roland1014 Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) I'm sort of deciding that my VFC AKS74 has taken enough beating and am leaning towards a new one. Internals don't matter, as they would be getting an overhaul. LCT or E&L? Edit: I should probably add some caveats before you all tear each other apart. Which is most in spec? Which is more solid, I.e. I hear the E&L is nearly all steel. I've never finger *fruitcage*ed an LCT, so all the goodness I hear about those is all I have to rely on. Edited December 17, 2013 by Roland1014 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 I have been told by eople who already fondled both E&L and LCT that E&L are just LCTs with a refinish, so if you are after a nicely finished gun and the budget is not a problem, go E&L, if you want something externally as realistic as possible to an AK, there is only one answer, Real Sword 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
howitzer Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Personally if it was between the E&L and the LCT, I would wait until a few reviews and general user feedback comes in. Of course as above, if you don't mind a Type 56 then Real sword away. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EatTheGras Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Can someone tell the source of the "E&L is refinished LCT" story? Looking by the gas blocks they are not the same, more similar to RealSword Type 56 than to LCT. I've recently aquired an LCT AKMS (only because E&L underfolder is nowhere to be seen/announced). I must say the quality is good (better than most AEG's i have seen), but not on the pair with Real Sword (i own a RS SVD). The only "dissapointment" is that front barrel assembly is still put together with screws with fake pins (Dboys or VFC use pinned design with no screws for example). On the other hand LCT's new gearbox internals looks way more nicer than E&L's .... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roland1014 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 On Red Alliance they found that the selector markings are different than LCTs and therefore unlikely/impossible that they are the same. On gunfire (evidently they're E&L's *badgeress* right now) there was a side by side with a real AK, and the parts interchangeability was unprecedented. Also for anyone interested, Fox Airsoft did a tour of the LCT factory, and it reminded me of Izhmash videos. Visit video: http://www.airsoft2day.com/news/1239-fox-airsoft-tour-lct-airsoft-factory.html Gunfire side by side: http://blog.gunfire.pl/en/2013/08/23/the-replica-as-good-as-an-original/ Red Alliance thread: http://www.red-alliance.net/forum/index.php?action=printpage;topic=25435.0 E&L website: http://www.emei-landarms.com/m/index.asp# 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PianoBlack Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 (edited) Their markings might be better, but their construction-style is LCT: http://www.emei-landarms.com.hk01.51cdngo.com/UpFiles/2013/8/15/thumb_2013081550718109.JPG I checked the possibility of interchanging the chamber’s cover – there is no possibility of doing it. The E&L’s body, and what it followed by it, the cover are longer a few mm that in the case of the original. Reason? As I managed to discover it comes to some legal regulations and the sale possibilities in the USA for example. Well, at least it is not a matter of an oversight. Nevertheless, too bad. Utter . It's a byproduct of the gearbox design. Real Sword Type 56s don't have this issue and were sold in the US. -Piano Edited December 20, 2013 by PianoBlack 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roland1014 Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Ooh thank you that finally answered my question. Looks like the charging handle is indeed similar to that of VFC's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PureSilver Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Utter ######. It's a byproduct of the gearbox design. Real Sword Type 56s don't have this issue and were sold in the US. My thoughts exactly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PianoBlack Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 (edited) Ooh thank you that finally answered my question. Looks like the charging handle is indeed similar to that of VFC's. No problem. Honestly, since you're in the US, just get a LCT blaster from FoxAirsoft. You won't be raked over the coals in shipping charges and they're running deals this time of year. Sure, the E&L might have a better selector marking or whatever, but the front end construction is the same (unless they've decided to covertly go VFC construction style) and if you're spending more time looking at selector markings than using the gun, you might as well just buy a VFC if you're going to order from overseas anyways. -Piano Edited December 20, 2013 by PianoBlack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roland1014 Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Hearing on Facebook they've secretly switched to pinned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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PianoBlack Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Hearing on Facebook they've secretly switched to pinned. Seeing on Red-Alliance they look like who did it and ran. -Batou Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roland1014 Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) Linky link? Edit: http://www.red-alliance.net/forum/index.php?topic=25435.msg250400;topicseen#new Edit: Son of a biscuit. Looks like I'll be overhauling the ole VFC. Edited December 22, 2013 by Roland1014 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 http://www.zahal.org/products/m4-recoil-reducing-folding-buttstock-for-ak47-polymer-version-cp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vulcand Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Does anyone know if a RS buffer tube adapter for AK will work on a Real Sword Type 56? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
klh31 Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 Another AK variant, the OTS-14 Groza (HTS-14 Hephaestus / GHK) with GP-30 installed: More on Frontovik => http://www.frontovik.net/IPBoard/index.php?/topic/10817-mes-nombreuses-repliques-maj-dec-2013/ 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Murdoc Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Nice!!! But as I see it's not an absolut correct conversion so would look better with silencer, and without grenade launcher. I would use it with steel 7.62 magazines... Edited December 31, 2013 by Murdoc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
klh31 Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) @ Murdoc: Like this one ? I know for the GP30 but my target was to install one without modifying the existing replica, hence all modifications have been made on the GP30, leading to an uncorrect replica of it. It was a choice that I assumed from the beginning, but I wanted soo much to have a grenade launcher attached to this little beauty. Hephaestus is working on the full silencer (one of the reasons why I did'nt modified the base version) and on correct mags external. It is now a question of time... EDIT: and I forgot to add that the GP-30 is fully fonctionnal as I have used the extracting device (located on the left side) as a firing device that push the firing pin (moved from a vertical position to an horizontal position). It works flawlessly. Edited December 31, 2013 by klh31 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blobface Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 HOLY poopoo these are awesome, nice job klh31 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Murdoc Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 @ Murdoc: Like this one ? Yeap... Maybe 9×39 would be the best (7,62×39 is also correct, and unconfortable to change; I don't know if it ever existed in 5,45×39), It's good that they will make it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peabird Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 LCT TKMV NV with Docter Sight, Surefire Scout Light, B.E. Meyers Flash Hider, Magpul Front Grip and some small extras. Enjoy Comrades! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sigma3 Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 It's been quite a long time since I logged in here... so, hi again, errybody! First off, that OTS-14 is a beauty. I usually avoid $$ temptation, especially in gas guns these days, but... you're pressing my luck. Now onto my question/problem. I went to replace the flash hider on my relatively new CYMA (CM040D) AK-105. What ended up happening is that the anti-rotation pin retracted but now won't come out! I thought maybe I could push it out from the other end of the channel, but that seems to be blocked by another pin that I can't remove, and I'm not sure if it would work anyway. Thoughts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PianoBlack Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Apply a little heat to the pin with one of those micro butane torches. I had a similar problem because the retailer was sloppy with whatever adhesive they used to attach the flash hider and some got into the recess for the pin. A little heat and some mechanical agitation caused it to free up. -Piano Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sigma3 Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 I agree that that's the problem, but really unclear on how to get it out or agitate it now, since it's pretty much 100% down in the hole. Only think I can think of is super glue or a magnet to pull it out. Not sure if either would work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
titchikov Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Look what Santa got me...ASG rebrand of a CA Sportline AKS-47. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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