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Only just discovered them myself, and so what if theyre not derived from a combat rifle rather than an export for sporting? Imo its the first real evolution in the platforms ergonomics-that is for ris-and im not putting a kg of metal on a 3+kg rifle. The ak12 stock id include, also the akmsu set, the other aks (russian) follow a strictly defined design.

 

Oh, ah ha! I did find a carbine '74-the bulgarian aks74s - it sez they werent a big success among troops. I guess in cqb in the hands of an operator its different though.

 

Another eastern bloc client i read about in this book (croatia? Estonia?) Make all of theirs ij nato 7.62. Pretty interesting choice- it said using this round, the platform would be operating at its max possible performance - any more is damaging - in an ak of all things.

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I love this Type 56-2 0317151955a_zps9utj41du.jpg krylon'ed the front and rear grips the night before a game. New paint plus bug spray on your hands = crappy paint job  :D

Niiice. So thats a new type 56?

 

Dont fret about the paijt job tho...to get the authentic finish ive found it to be a process of many seperate layers and materiels. Those patches are a great start-once ive got my orange sprayed, then its a black wash, wiping off the raised parts for depth and shadow. Im a sucker for red "russian" myself-ive had good results with basecoat, black wash, then a wash of crimson ink, putting a bit of fairy liquid in the mix; it makets it very oily and it paijts itself rlly-you caj do this with black. Once ive got rhe tone its just a nice thick shell of wood varnish-the toffee apple look.

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As far as I know the AKS74U was called the 'little female dog' because you couldn't do much with it: It was extremely loud, very inaccurate and heated up quickly.I don't think It was every regarded as a specialty SpecOps weapon. You're better off trying that with a 9x39 weapon or even an 'ordinary' ak74mn. The reason the AK wasn't upgraded much was because it was too costly to equip infantry with a specialty weapon.Hell, I believe they still keep mosins and AKM's in stock as training weapons, though I'm not 100% certain. It doesn't offer much modern tech but from a financial and logistics POV, the AK variants do the job extremely well with it's high percentage parts compatibility, effectiveness in the field and the soldiers knowledge and habit of handling of the weapon. No relearning techniques, same muscle memory, only 2 kinds of ammo ( just the calibres ). It's very efficient at what it does. This, because the red army ( they're still called that? ) is HUGE!So they only update the SpecOps every few years.  Red-Alliance and guns.world.ru is a good source of info :). The reason pistols are often a gift is that you could carry it easily for personal protection. Anything bigger is a bit... well.. big, you know?

 

I know its a *badgeress* of a cliche: the ak was made for ignorant peasants who couldnt be trusted with tying the8r laces much less use a rifle, and its ; by the time it entered mass production (after theyd perfected mass production using stamped pieces of metal, )the red army were a modern, proffesiojal force-and they had the concept of the universal weapon figured out-one army one weapon.

We had the sterling at this time, the bren, smle, lee sniping variants, webley revolvers....they had the ak 47 and rpk.

 

Its not light, but imagine the effects on logistics. Id love a pistol too, psm or tt33, but for ease of use having one single system trades weight for simplicity-just the rifle, bullets, and mags-no pistol mags, speedloaders, ammo for the mg etc

 

 

And with the nukes they had, youd imagine infantry to be pretty pointless.

 

Worldguns good. I got this new book complete encyclopedia of guns for 4 kwid from a discount bookshop. Its 100% exhaustive up to around 2010, with almost every millitary and police weapon inc every ak producer- even north korea - eastern variants etc. Inferesting to note that arguabally it wasnt the g3, ak or ar that spawned as many indiginous derivatives-its stoners ar18-its ancesters arm the UK, any user of g36, the sar21 (singapores current issue-no3 on the wish list, after M1c garand)

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As far as I know the AKS74U was called the 'little female dog' because you couldn't do much with it: It was extremely loud, very inaccurate and heated up quickly.

 

Very early models used a chopped down 16" barrel with the same standard rifle twist and made them shoot horribly. They were later improved with a tighter twist specific to thew 8" barrel which brought accuracy up dramatically losing only 100m effective range vs the AK74 despite having half the barrel length. Unfortunately, that's not what's propagated on the internet by spetsnaz commandos of the keyboard variety.

You're right about the noise though. Standard military ammo has too much powder resulting with much of it igniting outside the barrel making for a huge fireball and concussive blast. Better funded units however have access to more suitable ammunition: less but faster burning powder and great with a suppressor.

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To much explosive, not enough ventilation; old problem that. (When your in a vault, theres never enough bloody ce4 so its the coin cabinets..)

 

Im foggly on muzzle devices though, 's74u in particular. I mean, flashider:obvious. Brake: a we8ght i think limits rwcoil but higher noise- but the 's74u... does it eject gas or something - if so wouldnt that put more force to the bullet? Or is that a muzzle booster, as soon on s9me maxims and many aircraft guns?

 

Cause that thing is one big lump o' metal, I cant see baffles or slants 9r what theyre called-just a big fat cone (reallly does look like the maxims imo)

 

If the smaller calibre rifle needs that, no wonder the (mythical) akmsu wouod use that massive great thing. I think that would blow the eardrums from allies in a 6 km area.

 

Oh yeah, about the ak104 Ive checked this out now and they all have this muzzle device- noise hog i thijk- its a flashider, ugly as hell, but would look great with a bit of work- you know blast those ridges down get a bead blasted look goin on, maybe even add some mica chips, black paint-fin8shed well this looks like graphite or soke5hing.

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With the very short distance from the gas block to the muzzle they found it not to cycle reliably all the time. It works without it, just not 100% of the time especially with reduced loads. The cylindrical portion is a gas trap, allowing gas to be contained for slightly longer to help propel the piston. The cone part is just a flash hider and a rather obnoxious one at that. Even on airsoft it acts like a loudener.

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Same thing happens on the FAL carbine conversions where the piston doesn't operate well unless there is a certain length of barrel in front of the gas block.

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In fairness they had a lot of the same problems with the early M16 carbines, by all accounts the original 10" barrel colt commandos would near enough blind the shooter if they fired at night as well as alerting everyone within a mile with the massive flash and very loud report. I think it's important to remember that prior to these weapons the concept of a short barrel rifle wasn't really a thing, you had rifles and sub machine guns that fired a pistol cartridge and so had far less propellant. It took a while for the whole M16 carbine thing to take off and that was with the testing ground of the Vietnam war. For the Russians they didn't really have any proper wars till the soviet invasion of Afghanistan and then the AKM and AK74 are shorter weapons than the M16 to begin with. Interestingly enough they actually dusted off a fair few Mosin Nagants for that conflict because of the often quite long range nature of the warfare, kind of similar to how everyone suddenly wanted 7.62 nato back during the NATO invasion of Afghanistan. Nowerdays the AK104 seems to have gotten a lot of popularity amongst specialised branches of the Russian military along with the various 9x39mm weapons (I do like how the people behind the honey badger think they've invented something totally ground breaking when the Russians have had pretty much the exact same concept for about 30 years).

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(I do like how the people behind the honey badger think they've invented something totally ground breaking when the Russians have had pretty much the exact same concept for about 30 years)

You mean like the .270 and .280 British rounds that predated the remington 6.8mm by nearly 60 years?

 

It's all just recycled ideas.

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I dont know much about differences in GBB and AEG AKs, but does anyone know if I can put this into a cyma AK (cm040)?

 

http://rsov.com/product.php?langId=1&currencyId=1&manufacturerId=10&prodId=20198&cateId=153

 

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Finally, they also brought out an M4 stock adapter for folding stock AEGs.

 

http://airsoft.tiger111hk.com/p28124/EAIMING-Adapter-For-AK-AEG-to-M4-Stock-(Black)/product_info.HTML

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It's been ages since this built began and it's still quite a long way away from being finished, it currently has no internals, but after receiving all the parts after getting them Cerakote'd I couldn't resist putting it together for some pics!

 

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I'm pretty sure I pm'd you like 2 years ago for dimensions for that gas block and you got me started on the 3D model before finally having it CNC'd :P

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Really, really good finish. Never seen cerakote on an airsoft gun before, I was briefly considering diy parkerizing of my ak to get that smooth grey finish but didnt wanna risk messing up. This has made me want to get my '74u done-ive got soke chrome plated parts and that flat gray will just pop

 

That pistol grip though - that must be handmade or RS cos i have never seen one anywhere. Is it grip tape by any chance?

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I'm pretty sure I pm'd you like 2 years ago for dimensions for that gas block and you got me started on the 3D model before finally having it CNC'd :P

NICE....good to see that went somewhere haha

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It looks a proffesional job; did you take it to a gunsmith or sokething? Or is cerakote that finish designed to be done at home? Either way that gun is my favourite model and done to exactly my taste-so simple, great colour matching, kept traditional- just wondering whats going on at the front end. Classic, neo classical polymer - or just a ris?

 

 

I kind of love the akmsu but there is nothing on it just an old picture of a big flashider and a lower handguard on a normal akms....does anyone have some good info on this, maybe a link?

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