Bane Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 RC, you may find the extractor is similar to a Mauser, in that the actual hook that flicks the shell out is a fixed pin on the side of the receiver that on the pump of the action flicks the shell out the ejection port. Quite a few rifles use this idea. Note: Groove opposite the extractor claw Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted July 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 Brain fart. Why'd I put Mauser next to AR?!? Thanks, I meant that kind of ejector which is similar to ones on shotguns. Was thinking that at least this way I could control how far or short they fly out and not smack somebody next to me in the face. Link to post Share on other sites
J.J.Simpson Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 you are one really serious guy in what you do. outstanding project ;] best luck to you, hope to see it finished! Link to post Share on other sites
chas Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Ive been here for some time, watched most of your projects and I can honestly say this is the most epic project that's been on this forum, both from the perspective of the dificulty and the end result. You should really consider contacting some manufacturer (G&P, CAW or probably EBairsoft's 5KU) and try to pitch this as a new production gun. I dont think theyll have anything againsta gun they only need to produce en masse, as the design is already provided to them. Could make some money out of this. Link to post Share on other sites
Mike_West Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 5KU bombed, they made good stuff but apparently too expensive for people to buy (I don't believe it, M79 for half price and 1911 parts even cheaper? C'mon!). Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 I'd say Chas is definitely on to something. I can see King Arms going for a China lake, they like the more uncommon stuff. Considering the massive amount of time, skill and effort you're putting in to these builds RC, I think there's a lot of potential for you to cash in big time. I know I would. Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 I wouldn't say 'cash in' I'd say that you're spreading new and brilliant ideas to the airsoft community. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 I would. *fruitcage* that philanthropy *badger*s, get money *badgeress*. Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 well you do get the added side effect of getting minted for it Link to post Share on other sites
Azubi Posted July 3, 2011 Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 The only problem is that such a detailed step by step guide to your build like this gives such companies a brilliant opertunity to copy your design without paying you anything. Link to post Share on other sites
crackisbad Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Maybe to an extent but since he hasn't put specific measurements they would be kind of throwing darts in the dark. I'm curious to see how this will hold up long term because it seems like it requires quite a bit of force to cock/load. Do you think the plastics will stand up to it? Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted July 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Appreciate all the kind words! Maybe when it's done I'll try contacting a manufacturer if they're interested. I know it's a long shot, but its been done before by a fellow compatriot: the ICS CXP was bought from a guy who designed and started making the kits locally. I've not put specific measurements for a reason, but I do like putting up a show in documenting the process so expect to see more updates. Regarding the plastic, from experience it looks like it will hold. It's just that the bolt head rim hasn't been chamfered yet so seating the nade is still rough and requires a seemingly large amount of force. With everything ironed out, it should be about just as difficult to operate the pump of an airsoft Mossberg 500. Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Like I said before, the worst they can do is say, sorrie we're not interested. Which puts you no better or worse off than before Link to post Share on other sites
zombe minge Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 any update on this yet mr cow ? Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted August 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 *groans* Kinda got sick of it for a while then I had to go on vacation. Came back with no money so I had to earn some for a while. Then I stumbled on the Millennium books by Steig Larsson which got my full attention and went back to being useless. Now a month after and ready to resume work on it again *crosses fingers*. Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteHawksan Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 and we were jsut getting ready to hunt you down and chain you to your work bench Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted August 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 UPDATE!!! *about effin time* Made the ejector, but I had to move it to the side because of the parts inside the bolt. It's having problems ejecting shells when the gun is horizontal as a result, which I hope would be solved by using lighter shells plus the presence of a lifter which should help push the shell out. After monkeying with the gun all morning, the extractor finally broke (was testing how far shells flew when pumped real hard) so I made the sheet metal replacement. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Well, there we go then. Get the firing pin in there and we have all the ingredients required to basically function the weapon (provided you hand load it of course). Bloody impressive. Link to post Share on other sites
MovementUnderDarkness Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 I've saw ALL of your projects now (through older accounts) and I ACTUALLY think your a PVC genious.. Now, I need to dig out my CNC Milling machine and bench Lathe.. You have motivated me Link to post Share on other sites
spetsnazdave87 Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 Renegade if you don't end up working in some major airsoft company's R&D department, there is no god. Seriously dude, you're *fruitcage* incredible. Link to post Share on other sites
Romulus Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 That's a great video. It's really worth 1000 pictures (if you take my meaning). I'm glad to see that the project is back on track too. Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 IIRC in Black Ops, when the pump was activated the user held the open ejection port towards the ground...or am I remembering that wrong? Thing is if it ejects, it's fine - you'll just have to orient the gun to make sure the shell comes out. I mean, come on, it's not like you're gonna be slam firing the thing... ...unless you've turned into some mad 40mm demon XD. Link to post Share on other sites
TerranCmdr Posted August 19, 2011 Report Share Posted August 19, 2011 This is so epic! Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted August 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 Wouldn't really want to base operation after a game, especially not COD. But there are only 2 vids I could find of the real one being worked and only with practice rounds which are significantly lighter than HE. Who knows, maybe the real thing had the same problems which is why it didn't really take off much. Then again, the real things really meant to eject spent cases anyways. Anyhow, it's kinda sorted itself out somehow with the installation of the pump grip. Just makes a firmer grip and am able to rack it back with more determination: ejects 100% if tilted up greater than 10 degrees or rotated to the right 10-15 degrees with the gun level. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 Do you what kind of practice rounds? Only the ones we use in the L85 UGL have these big *albatross* lead/slag metal weights in them to make them weigh (and therefore fly) just the same as a HE 40mm. Link to post Share on other sites
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