Sneaking_moose Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 ICS M4a1 with accessoaries, 11.1v lipo, systema Magnum motor, and GATE Merf 2.0 mosfet, almost as fast as a systema PTW Dboys SPR Mk12 Mod.0 140m/s tuned, waiting on a paintjob which i havent decided on yet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sinner101GR Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 several ARs from a couple of us on the team (crappy camera action, GO.)   Top gun: VFC SR-15E3 Trijicon TA31RCO-M150CP Magpul AFG2 Knights Rear BUIS VFC PEQ-15 TangoDown SCAR panels Surefire M600C w/GearSector Mount VFC Triple Tap comp  Middle gun: Some ACM GBBR................... LMT SOPMOD Stock LaRue 11.0 Magpul AFG Magpul MBUS set Aimpoint T-1 w/LaRue mount Magpul BAD .....Repro.....AAC M4-2000  Bottom gun: CA M4 Knights RAS VFC SOPMOD Magpul AFG Magpul rear BUIS Aimpoint PRO w/LaRue mount Surefire M300C w/LaRue mount G&P DBAL-A2 Madbull Noveske KX3  Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
08kecarv Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 ...KAC... Â *droooooool* Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Extraordinaire Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Â Â -Ex 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sinner101GR Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 PDW  -Ex  That's not an AR variant.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
08kecarv Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Preeeeeeetty sure it is Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frogfish Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 It's an AR15 variant the same way the AR57 is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mirska Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 AR57 Is a upper receiver that fits on to a standard AR lower. KAC PDW does not have interchangeable parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frogfish Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 (edited) /facepalm  The AR57 can be purchased as a conversion kit or a complete weapon. http://www.57center.com/ None-the-less it utilizes a different bolt, and only shares compatibility with the trigger group and lower assembly. The PDW is similar enough that the differences still make it a variant of the AR design.  To be an AR variant it just needs to have the same controls and overall design appearance, obviously features are going to change based on caliber and needs of the weapon, but they can still be a variant. Otherwise things like Non-DI AR variants (piston driven ARs) would not be AR variants as they also lack compatibility on certain parts. Just look at some .22 ARs despite having a stock, some don't actually have a full sized bolt that goes into the stock tube, the design is surprisingly similar to the PDW.  Along the same lines as the PDW, is a ZM LR300 an AR variant? I've seen a few in this thread an no-one has complained. Edited September 8, 2011 by frogfish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Extraordinaire Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 PDW fires a rifle cartridge. Â Haters gonna hate. Â -Ex Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SteevoLS Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Pretty sure this is an AR15 variant. Â 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Extraordinaire Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 (edited) Lookin' good, SteevoLS. Â How's the quality on those replica Magpul parts? Namely, the bullet-window PMAGs. Been hesitant about picking some up. Â -Ex Edited September 8, 2011 by Extraordinaire Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SteevoLS Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 (edited) I've had those PMAGs for a year or two, and they still feed great. VERY weak feed springs (BBs dribble out), but they feed fine nonetheless. They won't fit in most guns w/out mods, though. They were originally designed for the A&K Masada, but fit fine in my VFC. They also fit fine in that body above and G&G combat machines. Aside from that, I haven't found a receiver they fit in. As a side note, I got mine for $8/ea waaaaay back when they first came out by ordering them in bulk and pulling a few strings. Don't expect to get them that cheap anymore, though. Â Things like the CTRs, handguards, pistol grips, etc, are an excellent value for the money. Magpul lovers frequently diss them, but I've been using them for years with no trouble. I actually built that M4 above about 2 years ago, and it's held up fine over that period of time. Edited September 9, 2011 by SteevoLS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leon Kennedy Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Good to hear SteevoLS...only faux items I've had are a trigger guard and a pair of MBUS knockoffs and all of theme were garbage...your gun looks really awesome though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sinner101GR Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 /facepalm  The AR57 can be purchased as a conversion kit or a complete weapon. http://www.57center.com/ None-the-less it utilizes a different bolt, and only shares compatibility with the trigger group and lower assembly. The PDW is similar enough that the differences still make it a variant of the AR design.  To be an AR variant it just needs to have the same controls and overall design appearance, obviously features are going to change based on caliber and needs of the weapon, but they can still be a variant. Otherwise things like Non-DI AR variants (piston driven ARs) would not be AR variants as they also lack compatibility on certain parts. Just look at some .22 ARs despite having a stock, some don't actually have a full sized bolt that goes into the stock tube, the design is surprisingly similar to the PDW.  Along the same lines as the PDW, is a ZM LR300 an AR variant? I've seen a few in this thread an no-one has complained.  AR-15 variants fire a 5.56 or .223....is what I was going for. The various piston driven platforms and the LR300....as well as a good amount of other rifles that have all the gizmos and doodads are still AR-15 variants...in that the lower is interchangable, and there is still a 5.56 round being driven through the barrel.  The PDW uses a set up similar to the AR....and that was the intended purpose...but the PDW is not an AR variant, was my point. In fact, it is not even an AR-10 derivative, if we want to get real technical.  Course, I'm not really too worried about it...was just making sure that the PDW is not confused with an AR. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akiraspeedstar Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011  -Ex  Wish that some US based shops would have that flash hider in stock, seems the only place that has it right now is Redwolf. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SteevoLS Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Ebaybanned has two. While it's not US based, you can't really beat the price and they don't usually screw up on small orders. Â AABB steel version http://www.ebairsoft.com/aabb-steel-axd169-style-flashhider-p-4455.html Iron Airsoft ??? version http://www.ebairsoft.com/iron-airsoft-style-inconnel-flash-hider-black-p-3341.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shift Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Wish that some US based shops would have that flash hider in stock, seems the only place that has it right now is Redwolf. Evike has KAC Tripple Tap copies in stock. They only have it in black though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHWEL Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 I cosign wut SteevoLS said. Ebairsoft.com has them, and they get the job done. And the price with free shipping cant be beat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kojak Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 I've had both, definitely get the Iron Airsoft version. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frogfish Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 (edited) Â AR-15 variants fire a 5.56 or .223....is what I was going for. Â Â What about those that Fire the .50 Beowulf or 6.8SPC, or how about the AR12 or any of the other 7.62 AR variants...... Those do not have interchangeable lowers but are still considered AR variants. There is a difference between a clone, and a variant. Edited September 9, 2011 by frogfish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Extraordinaire Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 I originally ordered my flash hider from ebairsoft back in June. It never arrived. Won't place an order there again. Â RSOV has them for about $18 after shipping I believe. That's where I got mine along with the PDW mags. Â -Ex Quote Link to post Share on other sites
[NL]Infinity Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Someone on the internet told me the PDW did not derive from the AR15 design, in fact it isnt in ANY way similar to the AR15 design! The fact that the lower looks almost exactly the same is just sheer coincidence... Â ...It looks kickass nonetheless!!! Â (I lolled ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mimesis Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Infinity' timestamp='1315603816' post='2486763']Someone on the internet told me the PDW did not derive from the AR15 design, in fact it isnt in ANY way similar to the AR15 design! The fact that the lower looks almost exactly the same is just sheer coincidence... AFAIK, it's very different inside, but was actually designed very deliberately to resemble the AR15 externally, so that users could transition seamlessly to it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Everything that gets posted in here fires 6mm, ergo, calibre of the RS weapon the replica is derived from is irrelevant to a weapon's suitability for going in this thread. Â M4A1, KAC PDW, SR-25, doesn't matter. This thread has been running for ages on the same basic principle that if it looks mostly like an AR-15, it goes in here, and that's worked fine for years. If we had threads for all the different sub-groups it'd get silly, you'd have bloody loads of them, all with very few posts. AR-10 variants, intermediate cartridges, PDW/LR300 type systems, outlandish creations like the 5.7mm.. etc... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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