The Reptile House Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Good point. The ACS L will be narrower, but will have a longer cheek weld surface than the STR. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
QDRenegade Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Wow I must have missed the memo where they added half a dozen new stocks! Too cool. No wonder my PMAGs are taking forever to ship. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ivan le Fou Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 The something like 3 or 4 new stocks.  The ACS-L, the STR and a sniper stock looking like a fixed version of a ACS + PRS +CTR offspring. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
QQexDERA Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) As promised earlier, a pic of two busted Dytac T1 mounts. I've compared them to the real deal KAC T1 mount I have and it's quite obvious why the Dytac ones have broken where they did: 1 - very poor quality steel, 2 - the hole drilled through the pin is way to close to the end of it. One of them has snapped completely, and the one on the mount has cracked already. I might try and put a spot weld across the end of it to save it, but I wouldn't put any money on it doing the job. Â Edited March 10, 2013 by QQexDERA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MRF Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 For those of you who are familiar with my guns, I am planing to change the ACS for something else. Â The ACS is a nice stock yes, but too big/large. Plus it's heavy. Though I would like to stick with the magpul stock. Â I was thinking about a UBR stock, but if you guys have other ideas/suggestions let me know. I. Want. That. Handguard. But to the point - perhaps it would be nice to put LMT or Magpul STR on it - if You like stocks with cheek slope... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 STR is pretty nice, I second it as a suggestion Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Reptile House Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 My short STR review here: Â http://www.systema-ptw.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=10660 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShadowBolt Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Only thing that bothers me in this build is T1 - way to small for such a long rail IMHO. Of course in terms of the look, because I know well, that it's absolutely sufficient for airsoft skirmishing. Some long optical tube would much nicer here anyway .  The method of choosing an optic should never be based off of pure aesthetics. If he's using it for CQB-medium range, then his optic choice is perfectly fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akiraspeedstar Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Plus scoped optics on Airsoft guns are kind of foolish. They can be useful, but when are they really needed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frogfish Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 The method of choosing an optic should never be based off of pure aesthetics.You are forgetting airsofter logic, Airsoft is 90% looking good, 10% actually doing stuff right. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MRF Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 (edited) I guess it's the first time in my life, when I'm forced to quote myself...  Only thing that bothers me in this build is T1 - way to small for such a long rail IMHO. Of course in terms of the look, because I know well, that it's absolutely sufficient for airsoft skirmishing. Some long optical tube would much nicer here anyway . Of course my comment was focused on aesthetics, and I thought I pointed that out clearly and expressed my understanding for practical side of using optics in airsoft. Apparentely I was wrong, judging from following comments .But hey, we are all only humans and sometimes we see/hear only what we want to, don't we ? (perhaps I'm doing it right now )After all it's just like TRH wrote - it's about personal preferences. I know guys who use magnifying devices constantly, and find them practical for different reasons (in fact I don't, and I've never used any) so I would be careful with any general statements. Edited March 11, 2013 by MRF 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frogfish Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 I'm not trying to be disrespectful I'm merely saying this is airsoft, functionality is secondary for most players, do what you want. If it dosen't work do something else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawaiianjuggernaut Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 For those of you who are familiar with my guns, I am planing to change the ACS for something else.  The ACS is a nice stock yes, but too big/large. Plus it's heavy. Though I would like to stick with the magpul stock.  http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/780874IGP0114.jpg  I was thinking about a UBR stock, but if you guys have other ideas/suggestions let me know. I got 2 UBR stocks. They are really awesome, only con is that running a battery in it is an absolute pain in the butt. I ended up just removing the part that prevents the lower part of the stock from coming off when adjusted normally for the pure sake of being able to use a buffertube lipo in it. I can PM you pics if you need. Hard to explain in words.  If you do get a UBR, i recommend doing it on a gun with a front wired setup, IE: in the magpul hand guard or the normal M4 hand-guard. Disassembling it to fit the battery in is a pain.  -Hawaiian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Noveske Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Finished T1 and index marks added:         Refresh 3.1 KAC URX 3.1 Rainier Arms upper KAC Micro rear BUIS Rainier Arms Raptor charging handle Seekins Precision trigger guard Blackhawk sling plate Mil spec buffer Magpul CTR stock, mil spec Aimpoint T1 2moa Aimpoint spacer Aimpoint QRP *Prime KAC E3 lower *VFC KAC Micro front BUIS *FCC trigger *Madbull Noveske light weight gas block *UFC KAC flash hider  *Repro   Has anyone figured out what the 4-slotted rails towards the rear of the URX3.1 are used for?  I thought about it, and researched online, and I haven't found anyone actually use those rails for anything.  I mean I suppose a sling mount, but 4 slots left, bottom and right?  And there's already a QD hole there as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Has anyone figured out what the 4-slotted rails towards the rear of the URX3.1 are used for? Â I thought about it, and researched online, and I haven't found anyone actually use those rails for anything. Â I mean I suppose a sling mount, but 4 slots left, bottom and right? Â And there's already a QD hole there as well. Talking to the KAC reps a couple Shot Shows back, there was a request by MIL to have rails near the rear as some units like to place lasers at the rear of the rail and save real estate up front for other accessories and/or support grip. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Noveske Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Talking to the KAC reps a couple Shot Shows back, there was a request by MIL to have rails near the rear as some units like to place lasers at the rear of the rail and save real estate up front for other accessories and/or support grip. Â Would not your front accessories then block your lasers in the back? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MRF Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 (edited) I got 2 UBR stocks. They are really awesome, only con is that running a battery in it is an absolute pain in the butt. I ended up just removing the part that prevents the lower part of the stock from coming off when adjusted normally for the pure sake of being able to use a buffertube lipo in it. I can PM you pics if you need. Hard to explain in words.  If you do get a UBR, i recommend doing it on a gun with a front wired setup, IE: in the magpul hand guard or the normal M4 hand-guard. Disassembling it to fit the battery in is a pain.  -Hawaiian UBR is a nice choice but considering what Ivan wrote I see some major problem here - it's even heavier than ACS. At least its CM version I had for a while. Edited March 11, 2013 by MRF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawaiianjuggernaut Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 UBR is a nice choice but considering what Ivan wrote I see some major problem here - it's even heavier than ACS. At least its CM version I had for a while.  Ehhh. I have the PTS and the ACM version. They arent really THAAT heavy. There is pretty much no difference quality wise between ACM and PTS too; one of the strange things I have noticed. Only difference between the fakes and the real PTS ones is how they spell COLORADO on the side. Fakes are misspelled "COORADO" Real PTS ones, obviously, are spelled correctly.  So if you get ACM or actual PTS, they are going to be the same weight. I dont have an ACS stock, but I've been planning on getting one eventally for my KWA. I can keep you posted on weight difference. Keep in mind that the UBR has its own buffertube setup, the ACS just slides on normally.  -Hawaiian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Katotaka Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Yeah, don't forget to count the buffer tube, the "stock" buffer tube could be heavy on some guns. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrsevenstars Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Â After building alot of PTW platforms, I wanted to build a GBBR platform. I opted to use a WE Open Bolt M4 platform as a PRIME kit was avail, since I done PTWs for quite a while, its known as the PRIME lowers were a gold standard for the PTW realm as are the NOVA kits for the TM pistols. Its RS Accessorized UNLESS the part states "replica" or "Style" Â Specs:WE OB M4PRIME Colt SetRS Larue Aimpoint Micro mountRS Aimpoint H1RS Magpul BUISTSC PRI style Charging HandleTSC Type 1 Anti Rotation pinsTSC Ambi SelectorRS GEISSELE SMR Mk1 10 inchFCC SF Style MB556k HiderWE Steel CQBR outer barrel and steel ExtensionTROY Low-pro gas blockRS Gear Sector Hand StopRS Magpul ASAPRS Magpul CTR MilspecRS BCM Milspec Buffer Tube/castle nutRS Tango Down GripSF MIni scout style light w/ gear sector style mount 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Noveske Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 After building alot of PTW platforms, I wanted to build a GBBR platform. I opted to use a WE Open Bolt M4 platform as a PRIME kit was avail, since I done PTWs for quite a while, its known as the PRIME lowers were a gold standard for the PTW realm as are the NOVA kits for the TM pistols. Its RS Accessorized UNLESS the part states "replica" or "Style"  Specs: WE OB M4 PRIME Colt Set RS Larue Aimpoint Micro mount RS Aimpoint H1 RS Magpul BUIS TSC PRI style Charging Handle TSC Type 1 Anti Rotation pins TSC Ambi Selector RS GEISSELE SMR Mk1 10 inch FCC SF Style MB556k Hider WE Steel CQBR outer barrel and steel Extension TROY Low-pro gas block RS Gear Sector Hand Stop RS Magpul ASAP RS Magpul CTR Milspec RS BCM Milspec Buffer Tube/castle nut RS Tango Down Grip SF MIni scout style light w/ gear sector style mount  Really digging that Geissele Rail Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WTF?Shane Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 ^^ Same here. I really want to do a SBR build with the Geisselle SMR, but the rails seem to be non-existant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Wait till you guys see the new Centurian Arms 5.56 Slick rail and its attachments. One of the nicest new rails I've seen in a while. Got to check it out first hand at Shot Show. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emp3ror86 Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Nice build, especially that Geissele rail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
QQexDERA Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Wait till you guys see the new Centurian Arms 5.56 Slick rail and its attachments. One of the nicest new rails I've seen in a while. Got to check it out first hand at Shot Show. Just looked up some pics of it, really liking it. I'm a huge fan of built in QD points on rail systems. What lengths is it going to be released in? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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