DrAlexanderTobacco Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Personally I'd put the torch on an extended rail mount, forward of the main rail a bit. That would give me more space to hold the gun a little further down; at the moment it looks uncomfortable to hold. I've got long arms though! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tenebraex Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 For the impression that's the best I can do with the rail space given. Although, the way the sling mounts might account for why they're a bit farther back than usual. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ivan le Fou Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Or placing the light on the other side? Unless you're a left-handed shooter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tenebraex Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Honestly, it's not that bad since it's not primarily a run n gun rifle/kit. I can get a good enough grip on the handguard section available or use the magwell if I want to. Plus, having an IBA with pouches on the sides helps with resting your arms... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tenebraex Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Just swapped out the M16 with the new VFC M4.. Definitely not what's going to be on there permanently, there's a SF Scout replica in the mail, going to get a PEQ15, maybe an AFG, new rail covers, and probably a 553. Then a new 3 pt sling and a paintjob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Whitteh Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 MRE rail looks good. I'd recommend putting the light on one of the side rails to avoid it getting smashed if you want to rest the gun on a ledge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GhostWolf Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Suppressor made and fitted, just need to get it painted up now. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bOp Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Quick one for anyone who has had a Madbull rail and Dytac rail. How is the finish/quality of the Dytac rails (In particular UXR 3.1 & their SMR rails) compared to the finish of a Madbull rail?I'm torn between a 13.5' UXR 3.1 or a 13.5' SMR MK5. Unfortunately I don't have the luxury of seeing either in the flesh and I have to judge it from pictures. Saw some reviews of were people have mentioned the quality and anodising of Dytac rails to be hit and miss. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
[-=O=-]^{Woozie} Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 *Shameless Pitch for my camo lol*Anyway~ King Arms Based Mk18 Mod 1 with Madbull FDE Rail + all the ACM Bing Bing.OPURATUR./s 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bladerunner168 Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 Quick one for anyone who has had a Madbull rail and Dytac rail. How is the finish/quality of the Dytac rails (In particular UXR 3.1 & their SMR rails) compared to the finish of a Madbull rail? I'm torn between a 13.5' UXR 3.1 or a 13.5' SMR MK5. Unfortunately I don't have the luxury of seeing either in the flesh and I have to judge it from pictures. Saw some reviews of were people have mentioned the quality and anodising of Dytac rails to be hit and miss. The barrel nut on my Dytac URX 3 was was made of soft cheese, it broke after a few twist using very mild force with a wrench. The externals were OK though. The SMR's are in a different league in terms of fit and finish, easily supersedes any of Madbull's efforts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Katotaka Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 Handled one of those DYTAC SMR, didn't like the grit/finish. (not sure if the thing is sandblasted so coarse, or actually machined from cast metal with full of bubble) Machining seems inconsistent, I could feel "stairs" around curved places (I know real ones also have the steps visible but not really be felt by touching) but not the opposite side, no safety bevel / deburr cuts around some edges that I could even snap off some chips. For the record, DDC-ish color is nice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Heilage Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 Something nice and slow.. But a bit worse quality photo.. Going classic USMC style with this? Very cool. I'm building a USMC kit myself, with a small team of friends. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bOp Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 snip snip Thanks, that might sway my decision from going with Dytac's rails altogether. Can't really be bothered with any hassles. PTS Centurion C4 or MB NSR it is then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 I wouldn't go Madbull personally, seen plenty of inconsistency with them and their "keymod" is just wank. PTS I would trust to make a quality external part. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bOp Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 (edited) I had the nsr as my last rail, granted i never used the keymod so I've no opinion on it, but i couldn't fault it otherwise. Finish was spot on and mounting it to an upper was hassle free. What's poor about their keymod? Not more off spec issues? I suppose i might take a punt with PTS and their rail. Would make a nice change from buying MB all the time. Edited December 2, 2014 by bOp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 Hence why I said 'inconsistency', you cannot judge a brand from 1 purchase. MB don't bother making the internal cuts that the actual KeyMod spec calls for. I'm not sure which accessories would even work apart from their own and I've not seen any reviews on whether even those attach securely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bOp Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 Indeed, that is Airsoft all over with inconsistency. I've had my fill of ill fitting/troublesome MB rails hence why i was seeking opinions on a different brand. what you have just said doesn't inspire confidence much. Im at a stage where i can not be bothered with issues like that. Im surprised being that its suppose to be a `licenced` product - id expect a key feature to work as it should. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 I've installed other airsoft Keymod accessories from G&P to Iron airsoft direct to a Madbull NSR.. if you tighten the nuts securely it'll be strong enough for most things Ive found! Never had anything fall of yet! Luckily the MB metal is pretty soft so the keymod accessories with the correct internal cut requirements generally just force themselves a groove. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Katotaka Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Thanks, that might sway my decision from going with Dytac's rails altogether. Can't really be bothered with any hassles. PTS Centurion C4 or MB NSR it is then. If PTS Centurion is on your list, I would recommend CMR, proprietary accessories could be a problem (for now), but built in rotation-limited QD sockets and ability to direct-mount accessories (by force) on threaded holes could save some hassle, I was thinking about screwing an MVG when I built my WE M4 (It was May this year, I just can't wait ). Oh, IIRC C4 rail requires a "barrel nut" --- Delta Ring sans the "delta" part, still a nice rail if that's not a issue Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 If PTS Centurion is on your list, I would recommend CMR, proprietary accessories could be a problem (for now), but built in rotation-limited QD sockets and ability to direct-mount accessories (by force) on threaded holes could save some hassle, I was thinking about screwing an MVG when I built my WE M4 (It was May this year, I just can't wait ). Oh, IIRC C4 rail requires a "barrel nut" --- Delta Ring sans the "delta" part, still a nice rail if that's not a issue I have the CMR now it's fantastic. Though I've never found a QD attachment that will fit in the QD sockets they all seem to be slightly too wide. Have you had this issue? I have also mounted a MVG directly to the screws underneath. It's a brilliant idea in theory and does work well but there are no locating holes on the underside of the rail which means the MVG can have a tendency to twist. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deepeyes Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Latest addition to my collection. A next gen Marui M4 CQBR. I have added a SMR rail, QD silencer, PEQ15 and she is also sporting a real Eotech 552. I love this gun! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Agent Hunk Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Me and my friend have the DYTAC Geissele rails. Me the M4 and him the 416. I've noticed no issues with either and we are both harder than most on things. Really no complaints, especially at their price point. I mean it's an $80ish cloned rail. What are you expecting? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-Drake- Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I was quite impressed with mine, installation was a breeze and it seems well made with a decent finished. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ivan le Fou Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I second the installation easiness. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Katotaka Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Me and my friend have the DYTAC Geissele rails. Me the M4 and him the 416. I've noticed no issues with either and we are both harder than most on things. Really no complaints, especially at their price point. I mean it's an $80ish cloned rail. What are you expecting? You have a (few) point(s) here I have the CMR now it's fantastic. Though I've never found a QD attachment that will fit in the QD sockets they all seem to be slightly too wide. Have you had this issue? I have also mounted a MVG directly to the screws underneath. It's a brilliant idea in theory and does work well but there are no locating holes on the underside of the rail which means the MVG can have a tendency to twist. Nope, I didn't have one. I asked to molest (!?) some of the Centurion rails when I visited a friendly store, didn't have the chance to try the QD. I did direct-mount a MVG to a TRX rail, I removed the 2 tabs and wrapped sandpaper to a tube similar sized with the rail and "carved" a channel on the top of the MVG, made centering spacer with scrap plastic to fit inside TRX's hole and boom! Ultra slick vertical grip! Oh BTW, PTS CMR is like $100-ish rail, with machining tolerance / finish that I "like", the cost includes low profile gas block with not-gas-tube ( very clever workaround, Y U not do this MB??? ) and also the "evil" license fee. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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