Typewriter Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 As soon as I got my hands on the Ingram and saw these pictures I wondered to make one myself. The retractable stock isn't too comfortable and steady to use, so this might improve aiming when using iron sights. I haven't started the project, this is just a plan. Here's pictures to show what I mean: Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Good to see you're still alive. People have been wondering where you've gone. For the build, it's pretty much straight forward, but are you using an ACM (Well brand) M11? Because the stock bracket on those are made of pot metal and might break if the stock were to hit something, if not out of its own weight. Link to post Share on other sites
spetsnazdave87 Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Damnit, Typewriter's back and he makes an actual SANE suggestion? Well that's just no fun at all... Link to post Share on other sites
-Angel- Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Damnit, Typewriter's back and he makes an actual SANE suggestion? Well that's just no fun at all... You haven't seen it yet, it could be constructed entirely of stilton cheese and glitter. Link to post Share on other sites
spetsnazdave87 Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 The concept art is far too pedestrian though. Link to post Share on other sites
Murdoc Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 I was scared reading the title, but that's OK... and nice wood-work. Link to post Share on other sites
Typewriter Posted July 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Good to see you're still alive. People have been wondering where you've gone. For the build, it's pretty much straight forward, but are you using an ACM (Well brand) M11? Because the stock bracket on those are made of pot metal and might break if the stock were to hit something, if not out of its own weight. I've been hanging here and reading stuff all the time. I haven't build anything for a long time (if wooden grips gor pistols don't count). I'm using Tokyo Marui M10 (the AEP), the stock bracket seems very sturdy and it shouldn't break down easily. Altough this build is rather simple, this will go slowly because I don't yet have any wood or materials laying around. *Goes shopping* Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 personally i think that looks bloody awful, but i reckon if you improved on the real steel design it might look pretty cool. try to get it to sit a bit more flush and make it less chunky. kinda like the uzi stock. Link to post Share on other sites
Typewriter Posted July 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 You mean like this? You're right, it does look more sexy. I'll draw a few scetches, and see what would look and feel good. EDIT: After some searching, i found this rather interesting Ingram-system: At first I had in mind to attach a M16 solid stock to the gun (as seen in the fourth pic from above). There are real steel adapters for the job, unfortunately they are pretty rare/expensive. What's your opinion, should I go for the Armalite-stock or wooden? Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 you wouldnt be able to go on the underside like the uzi, but just getting it to fit flush to the back would look so much better. the real steel one looks like it's barely attached. edit: ever thought about an ACE skeleton stock? i think it looks in keeping with the MAC's appearance, plus you wouldnt have the hassle of fabricating a decent looking stock. Link to post Share on other sites
Typewriter Posted July 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 That actually looks good (especially when attached to the M10), but I want a solid stock (not a big fan of skeleton/retractable ones). I have to think hard what would do the job... Link to post Share on other sites
Imperator Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 A friend of mine did it with a LR300 folding stock. It actually worked pretty damn good! Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 That actually looks good (especially when attached to the M10), but I want a solid stock (not a big fan of skeleton/retractable ones). I have to think hard what would do the job... it is a solid fixed stock, just a skeleton design to save on weight. plus it looks awesome. Link to post Share on other sites
Typewriter Posted July 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 I ordered a M16 fixed stock, should take couple of days to arrive. So I'm going for the Armalite-ish looks. I'm still planning to make the wooden stock, but I will have to think the desing (real-steel, as mentioned, is too bulky and heavy). Gosh, I didn't think this topic would have this much conversation in a day! Link to post Share on other sites
Typewriter Posted July 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 Little progress on this one. I removed the hook (which works as a buttplate), so I can attach the system that holds the stock: This thing works as a buffer tube (the longer, thinner part is metal, the thicker, shorter part is PVC): (This is perhaps too long, I maybe have to shorten it) It slides in from the hole of the bracket's plate, as the pic demonstrates: Next thing is to attach the tube to the plate and then, of course, attach the M16 stock to the tube. More on that later. Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 Little progress on this one. That's actually looks like a pretty simple and effective way of doing it. Kinda looking forward to seeing the result of this, AR-Uzi's always look good. Saying that, I like anything with AR parts. Still, good work. Link to post Share on other sites
Typewriter Posted July 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 Thanks! This build is pretty simple and straight forward, but I have to tell you, removing that hook was PITA. Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 Not sure how difficult it'd be, but perhaps knock a couple of 90 degree angle brackets together and make some sort of reinforcement that spreads some of the stress of the stock around the receiver sides as well as the stock mount? Link to post Share on other sites
Typewriter Posted July 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 My high-school english is too bad so that I could understand what you're saying. Something about making the brackets stronger by attaching the stock to the gun itself? Link to post Share on other sites
Typewriter Posted July 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Some progress. I'm thinking to paint the Ingram Snake -logo on the right side of the stock (would be a nice finishing touch). Maybe with dark gray so it would not stand out too brightly? Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 That was quick! And dare say it looks pretty good. Have an idea though, how about making the stock hold an extra mag? Link to post Share on other sites
Typewriter Posted July 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Thanks! The mags are little too long to fit inside the stock, if they were like five centimeters shorter they would slide in no problem. Link to post Share on other sites
my_plague_666 Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 that doesnt look half bad. couldnt you flip the stock rail/hook thingy upside down so the stock would sit more in line with the receiver? that would look much better IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
Typewriter Posted July 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 It maybe looks better that way, but then you couldn't aim trough the iron sights. If I'm putting a red dot -scope for it, then it should be higher like you said. Link to post Share on other sites
hwagan Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 My high-school english is too bad so that I could understand what you're saying. Something about making the brackets stronger by attaching the stock to the gun itself? Your high-school English is a hell of a lot better than my Finnish! Basically, some sort of metal bracket that wraps around both the sides of the stock and the rear of the receiver; Should spread the stress a little? Saying that, having seen the picture it looks pretty solid - The snake logo in dark grey would definitely look awesome. Link to post Share on other sites
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