Reppyboyo Posted September 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 The 'recoil kit' does look like it works rather well. Rarely use auto myself so I doubt I will buy it unless there are other benefits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 I always assumed that the WE magazine capacity of 30+2 is that, the mag takes 32 rounds total, but then has to be loaded with bolt/nozzle locked back, because it is "maxed out" and has no play in the spring. So, it would be recommended to only load 30 rounds, but it will take 32. Same with all guns really, don't load it so the spring can't flex 2 BB's up and down... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stuey Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 I always assumed that the WE magazine capacity of 30+2 is that, the mag takes 32 rounds total, but then has to be loaded with bolt/nozzle locked back, because it is "maxed out" and has no play in the spring. So, it would be recommended to only load 30 rounds, but it will take 32. Same with all guns really, don't load it so the spring can't flex 2 BB's up and down... Ohhh I see, so you don't smash the bottom of the bolt when you put the mag in, right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reppyboyo Posted September 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Indeedy. Still find it odd that it is noted on the box as 30 + 2 yet holds near 50. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Yes, I always load my mags with a speedloader and then take out two BBs so I won't have problems if I insert the mag with the bolt/nozzle forward. Back on topic; What is the real steel capacity of the AK magazines ? Because WE always aim for RS capacity, I would think the 50 rounds is more correct. I have no idea how they would manage it to shoot a full 50 round mag with a single 12g CO2 capsule though, if those mags ever come out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reppyboyo Posted September 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 According to world guns, 30 rounds standard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stuey Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Yep, AK mags are 30 rounds. An error on WE's part, or catering to the people who complain about low mag capacity? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reppyboyo Posted September 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Possibly but the only other time they have done this is with the M14 mags. They came with an additional spring and follower (i think) to change them from 20 to 30 rounds. Coming 50 rounds standard seems to be an odd thing for WE. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rvlyssup Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Has anyone figured out yet how to remove the hand guards? Looking to put a rail system on this bad boy... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) Well, it's being advertised on retailers as 30 rounds, the box sais 30 rounds, but it holds 50. My guess would be WE just let it be so that people can decide for themselves what they wanna run. But a BB limiter/spacer would be nice because if you load it with a speedloader it's a *badgeress* to know if when you got 30 rounds in... Sucks to load up 50 and then have to poke 20 out... :| Anyone broken a magazine appart to see how the spring and follower look and how you could limit the capacity ? Edited September 27, 2011 by NonEx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pariah_WP Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) Little bit of additional info, Redwolf claims the mag holds 50 rounds which seems odd for WE. They are advertised for the usual 30 + 2 rounds. Tested one of mine and sure enough 49 BB's loaded into the mag. This potentially may be the cause of Pariah's neice's problem, constant overloading causing the spring to weaken and not push the pin stop up? You know this might actually be the issue. The mags can load more than 30, that is for sure. I am no expert on this, but it could be. Sadly loading less BBs didn't fix it so these mags might be just screwed. I can also report that the Ultimak rail fits without much fuss. I had to file it just a little on the bottom and shim it with a manila envelope clasp painted black to stop some side-to-side wobble. The optic mounts up to it nicely and she could care less about the rear sight now since the optic is way higher. The gun also has one more, not as hard, session of playing under its' belt. Holding up mystifyingly well too! Only the paint is really showing the wear-and-tear bad now. Even the gun case seems to scuff it. Edited September 27, 2011 by Pariah_WP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reppyboyo Posted September 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) Have you tried disassembling the latches on the mag and lubing them? Edited September 27, 2011 by Reppyboyo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pariah_WP Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 No not yet. My niece will not consent to my desire to take apart these magazines until she can get some new ones since these work...more or less and she fears I will break them. lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reppyboyo Posted September 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Pushing the guide rod down does increase the rate of fire quite well. There is MUCH less resistance when you pull the bolt with the guide rod pushed down. Worth doing this mod. Also, to install a NPAS the nozzle needs to be modified like other WE GBBR's, just needs filing. Consistency isnt great with the npas though, stick with the stock valve if you can. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DiscoBiscuit Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 Someone needs to make a replica of the Vityaz laser seen on the Inokatsu pics. It is surely the shizzle and would make it easier to look past the many faults this gun is certain to have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reppyboyo Posted October 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 Skirmished mine today. Good points: Fun as hell Loud Accurate Good range Bad parts: Disconnecter has snapped clean off, I can only use auto now. Part of the selector (internally) has snapped. yay pot metal. Anyone know where or who I can contact to get spares? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aznriptide859 Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 Airsoft-Buddy might have spares, or RATech is working on reinforced parts already. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reppyboyo Posted October 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 Images of both broken bits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M733 Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 how many mags did you fire before things broke? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reppyboyo Posted October 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 If you include plinking, in the region of 20-25 mags. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gijohn2 Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 Top quality stuff eh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NonEx Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 What gas and at what temperatures ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rvlyssup Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 Images of both broken bits. Whoa, that really bites!! Curious to see what WE will say about this...not too promising. I haven't shot mine after the 1st 500 rounds; it isn't like there are abundant parts around right now... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reppyboyo Posted October 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Well if anyone has an email address to WE it would be appreciated. Propane was used, temps were roughly 22c. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pariah_WP Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Looks like this is the weekend of breakage. Plinking this weekend my niece broke part of the hammer off and something else...that I have yet to figure out what was. The weapon still shoots fine, but wear is showing up on the selector in the same place as Reppyboyo. While it hasn't broken there is a hairline crack towards the barrel right up against the selector cradle. That tells me that this is a really common problem. She is on magazine 59 apparently. I asked her to leave it be until I can find a selector part to replace this one if it falls out. I don't think she is going to listen though since she is sick as a dog and bored. lol Does RA Tech sell this part yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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