Lone_Bullet Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 This Inforce WMLx is soooo amazing! Why didn't I buy it before? it's all I ever wanted ( with the 18something rechargeable battery instead of the 2xCR123 )Outside I can use 2xCR123 for the full 500 lumen, inside that 18 something cell and have a reduced output but a prolonged use! <3 Inforce Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 I switched to a 18650 light, they are brilliant! You can also get rechargeable cr123 to save on cost, bit check voltages as the rechargeable ones can kill things...! Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Yeah, a lot of the rechargeable CR123s are pants if you buy cheap. Better to stick to the branded ones, you might pay more but at least they work... Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Meant to say that too. I use nitecore, they are fine. I use a nitecore i4 intellicharger too Edit. Think it's an i4, the one with the lcd screen. Link to post Share on other sites
Lone_Bullet Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Well, I've insulated the floor of my house with PUR, now waiting for the floor heating kit to arrive. They will cover that up with something we call 'Chape' here in Belgium. A cement-y crumbly foundation later of 50mm to lay your tiles or other floor covering on.Next week, my contractor will FINALLY try and search for the leaks in the roof.It's been a huge project, certainly on my own, but it's starting to take shape.It needs to be liveable by May, but I'm hopeful. Electric, water and sanitary installation ( cable and tube work ) is done, so perhaps I'll have water and electricity by my birthday in april? Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Underfloor heating is fairly modern. The Romans used it... Why heat a massive slab of aggregate to then heat a room? Apologies, nothing personal - honestly - but I see it as a folly. Link to post Share on other sites
scorch Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Modern underfloor heating has a much lower running cost as you aren't heating the system up to 70ish degrees in an attempt to throw heat from the radiator across the whole room. For underfloor 25 is usually ample. Also, you don't get limited on your room layout by where the bloody radiators are. It's *suitcase* if you have decent carpet though. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Underfloor heating is great. If you're heating up a slab, you have a massive thermal mass that uses less energy to heat up and gives off heat uniformly across a room hours after it's turned off. Hook it up to some PVs and you're sorted. Link to post Share on other sites
Gunmane Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 I wish my folks would get wise to it and do that instead of our furnace system. Of course, they can't even agree on replacing the carpet of fixing up all kinds of *suitcase* so bugger all. Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 Warm air am the best! Link to post Share on other sites
scorch Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 I live in the UK capital of warm air (the no1 uk manufacturer of it is based here). And even our council have all but ripped it all out and put in conventional wet systems. Domestic warm air heating is so unhealthy it's not even funny. Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 I was in that game for years, mostly commercial, but I helped out on the domestics as and when. They are replacing with wet systems for ease, *albartroth* covering, and lack of warm air engineers. Why unhealthy? Link to post Share on other sites
sandstorm Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 Legionnaire's, I'd bet. It's a major risk with warm air stuff... Link to post Share on other sites
Habakure Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 Stagnant water. It's why you have to leave hot tubs on or you have to drain them (if the water hasn't been circulated for a while) before using them again. Vaporised stagnant water is a no no. Link to post Share on other sites
amateurstuntman Posted February 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 They will cover that up with something we call 'Chape' here in Belgium. A cement-y crumbly foundation later of 50mm to lay your tiles or other floor covering on. We call that a screed. Underfloor heating is fairly modern. The Romans used it... Why heat a massive slab of aggregate to then heat a room? Apologies, nothing personal - honestly - but I see it as a folly. Underfloor heating is great. If you're heating up a slab, you have a massive thermal mass that uses less energy to heat up and gives off heat uniformly across a room hours after it's turned off. Hook it up to some PVs and you're sorted. What he said. Link to post Share on other sites
Lone_Bullet Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 I know ^^. Thermal inertion they call that here ( loosely translated ). It accumulates heat and slowly releases it. It's going to be great! right? Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 But said slab is also losing heat to a massive thermal sink known as the planet earth. It's also not instant, it takes an age to heat up, so if it's cold you don't get warm for ages. I appreciate forward planning will alleviate that, and also it will maintain an ambient temperature if left never a sole source of heat though, it's always complemented with rads... As for warm air, I've never seen a case of legionnaires. It's a dry system, there is no standing water. My family has been fitting it for nigh on 60 years, and all over the north when councils were wanting them in their new builds in the 60's, so that's literally thousands of installs. Never had a health issue with a client. Link to post Share on other sites
scorch Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 I was in that game for years, mostly commercial, but I helped out on the domestics as and when. They are replacing with wet systems for ease, *albartroth* covering, and lack of warm air engineers. Why unhealthy? Fungal spores and airborne germs mostly. If one room gets it, the whole house does. We had a load of cases of mould because of *suitcasey* filters, which council tenants don't tend to keep cleaned correctly if checked at all. Link to post Share on other sites
Lone_Bullet Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 But said slab is also losing heat to a massive thermal sink known as the planet earth. It's also not instant, it takes an age to heat up, so if it's cold you don't get warm for ages. I appreciate forward planning will alleviate that, and also it will maintain an ambient temperature if left never a sole source of heat though, it's always complemented with rads... As for warm air, I've never seen a case of legionnaires. It's a dry system, there is no standing water. My family has been fitting it for nigh on 60 years, and all over the north when councils were wanting them in their new builds in the 60's, so that's literally thousands of installs. Never had a health issue with a client. My bottom ground has been shielded with 70mm PUR, then concrete and then said PUR layer again ( 50mm) on which the heating is fastened. You cannot lay floorheating without insulating the ground/foundation underneath. They just won't do it. So the heat gets reflected upwards anyway. Sent from my C6603 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 So maintenance is the key, that's not the fault of the system I've never seen a fungal spore issue, nor heard of one in any of our installs. Lone bullet, I realise insulation goes down first, but to me it will always be a cob way of heating a house. Each to his own though Link to post Share on other sites
Hedganian Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 I suspect you're perhaps a tad biased on the subject... Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 Well, I suppose, but it is a good way of heating a house. It's pretty much instant, the units run forever on minimal or no maintenance - easily 30+ years - and I've never seen a health issue. New units are also running around 98% efficient. I'd have it in my house over a wet system any day. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 My parent's house used to have hot air. I found the vents made very good stash locations. Link to post Share on other sites
shmook Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 We found 5 grand down a vent a few years ago. It seemed the old lady who lived there had stashed it, and when she passed away her family had no idea. We found it during a service for the new buyer. Link to post Share on other sites
DeltaZero Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 New wheels arrived for my car.. I went with a matt burnt bronze colour with a wider offset. They look the *badger*s and handling has been slightly improved so win win.. looks a bit like a monster truck now though, maybe I'll have to get coilovers, what a shame! Oh god the bug has bitten, this is a slippery slope of awesomeness! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
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