memberTGC Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 My heart stopped beating for a second... It will come this summer! And also the price seems to be OK/fair... however you want to call it.... http://www.airsoft2day.com/news/669-kwa-unveiled-the-kriss-vector-gbb-and-more.html Link to post Share on other sites
renegadecow Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 So it seems they really did copy the Super V design. Wonder if that means it has less recoil than an AEP? Link to post Share on other sites
Samm Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Looks good, still not entirely convinced this isn't another fake version ###### take though Link to post Share on other sites
Grindstone Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 New mags, or use old M/G-series 9mm mags? While the realism of .45 mags is nice, there's also those of us with tons of 9mm mags, including extended. It would be nice not having to buy tons more. But I'm not holding out much hope. Link to post Share on other sites
hitmanNo2 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 The extended mags could just use a sleeve for the bottom part. However, I think I read it will have propriety mags. Could be wrong though. Link to post Share on other sites
Hanger Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 oh so sexy Link to post Share on other sites
Deadmeat Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 I have to admit it looks good and is making me more excited!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Interficium Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 The KWA KRISS Vector is undergoing extensive field-testing, with production and delivery scheduled for this summer. Getting a strong sense of deja vu, almost as if they were saying the same thing at last year's shot show! Link to post Share on other sites
Leon Kennedy Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 EBB AKs from KWA? Mmmm Link to post Share on other sites
memberTGC Posted January 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Getting a strong sense of deja vu, almost as if they were saying the same thing at last year's shot show! same here... but I hope waiting will have an end... somewhere down the road... Link to post Share on other sites
Deadmeat Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Oooooooo found this on the KWA website: http://kwausa.com/community-pages/news/unveiled-kriss/ Link to post Share on other sites
DangerWerx Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Video of operation. Unless KWA hired a CGI crew and found an Allizard stunt double, I think it is real... Link to post Share on other sites
Leon Kennedy Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Here's a facebook note of all the upcoming sutff (ATP auto, MKV, etc) "KWA Announces 2012 New Products" Las Vegas, NV and City of Industry, CA – January 17th, 2012 – This week at SHOT Show in Las Vegas, Nevada, KWA will be announcing new products that will add to KWA’s extensive line of MIL-SIM and professional training products. - Revisiting The Past - For decades, the 1911 style pistol has been legendary among shooters all over the world due to its reliability and ergonomics. KWA will reintroduce an NS2 version of the classic 1911A1 US ARMY, complete with original features found in its introduction as a service pistol for the US military. Both slide and frame are constructed with aluminum alloy and its magazines and internal components interchangeable with KWA’s existing 1911 Mk series magazines. The KWA 1911A1 US ARMY will be released at the end of first quarter. Street Price is expected to be $149.95 and will be available only through KWA Authorized Resellers. Recognizing growing demand for Eastern European style replicas, KWA will also be releasing the MKV, a GBB version of the legendary 9x18mm Russian service pistol designed by Nikolai Fedorovich Makarov. The single stack pistol features an aluminum alloy slide and frame and has the same field stripping procedures as its firearm counterpart. MKV Street Price is expected to be at $134.95 and will be available only through KWA Authorized Resellers. - New Additions - With the recent BATFE approval of KWA’s LM4 PTR design, KWA can now proceed with production and distribution of the series in the United States. Many of today’s military and law enforcement service rifles are optimized for close quarter applications, thus creating the need for a compact training weapon. The upcoming LM4C PTR is the ideal choice with its shorter barrel. Features such as a fully functional bolt catch and realistic field stripping are standard, providing users with a safer alternative to an actual firearm. Street prices for the LM4 PTR Series is as follows: LM4 PTR $384.95, LM4C PTR $379.95, LM4 PTS Magpul Edition $479.95 KWA’s upcoming AKG GBBR series will include the full size AKG-74M as well as an AKG-74SU. The AKG-74SU is configured with a shorter barrel, unique fixed sights, and a side-folding metal stock. Specially designed magazines are included with every AKG rifle, allowing the rifle to be safely dry fired for demonstration purposes. Realistic field stripping and operation make the AKG series the ideal training weapons. The street price for both the AKG-74M and AKG-74SU is $379.95 The ATP has become one of KWA’s best selling and popular pistols due to its simplicity and application as a training pistol for law enforcement and military personnel. To satisfy the overwhelming requests for a select fire variant, KWA will be introducing the ATP Auto. The select fire option gives users the option to either fire in semi automatic or fully automatic. Like the original ATP, the ATP Auto will have modular back straps, accessory rail, and extended slide release. Expected street price is $149.95. Release dates will be available in the near future. Link to post Share on other sites
frogfish Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 it looks like it has almost no recoil.... Link to post Share on other sites
Interficium Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 it looks like it has almost no recoil.... Unsurprising. The KWA mp7 and mp9 have next to zero recoil and this a GBB with a bolt system designed to (on the real steel at least) delay and reduce recoil. That's like dividing by zero. I'd be lying if I said I haven't been waiting for this for a long time, but it'll be a lot tougher to justify the purchase with my MP7 sitting around... that and the fact that KWA will probably make it chrono 420 out of the box, ugh. Link to post Share on other sites
howitzer Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Glad to see a GBB Makarov on the way. Link to post Share on other sites
frogfish Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Unsurprising. The KWA mp7 and mp9 have next to zero recoil and this a GBB with a bolt system designed to (on the real steel at least) delay and reduce recoil. True, yet it is a GBB. You don't buy a GBB for a lack of recoil, I almost wish it was an AEP (if you know me that's saying a lot). My MP7 has some felt recoil but to be honest the real 4.5mm round dosen't have much recoil, much like the 5.7mm round... If it had at least the appearance of recoil I would consider it over my MP7, but then again the MP7 is a beast of a weapon. Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 MP9 no recoil you joking? MP7 joke nothing but the MP9 certainly does! This is exciting! If the price is $300 im happy. p.s AEPs suck Link to post Share on other sites
Interficium Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 True, yet it is a GBB. You don't buy a GBB for a lack of recoil, I almost wish it was an AEP (if you know me that's saying a lot). My MP7 has some felt recoil but to be honest the real 4.5mm round dosen't have much recoil, much like the 5.7mm round... If it had at least the appearance of recoil I would consider it over my MP7, but then again the MP7 is a beast of a weapon. You're right. There's a certain irony to them going to such painstaking lengths to replicate the crazy felt-recoil-reducing bolt of the KRISS when recoil is a DESIRED characteristic of GBBs in airsoft. MP9 no recoil you joking? MP7 joke nothing but the MP9 certainly does! This is exciting! If the price is $300 im happy. The MP9 has SLIGHTLY more felt recoil than the MP7, yes, but it's still bottom-tier compared to like, a GHK or even a WOC. It'll be $399 Link to post Share on other sites
DangerWerx Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 The MP9 has SLIGHTLY more felt recoil than the MP7, yes, but it's still bottom-tier compared to like, a GHK or even a WOC. Felt recoil of a replica emulating a .223/7.62 round vs felt recoil of a smg emulating a pistol caliber round. Maybe the ratio is skewed on the rifle caliber recoil range vs the pistol caliber range... Just saying. Link to post Share on other sites
Interficium Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Felt recoil of a replica emulating a .223/7.62 round vs felt recoil of a smg emulating a pistol caliber round. Maybe the ratio is skewed on the rifle caliber recoil range vs the pistol caliber range... Just saying. If that's the case they should at least attempt enough felt recoil as a 9mm GBB pistol. DangerWerx you should try to get KWA to get you a proto of the bolt so you can have an aftermarket nozzle for us when this comes us, considering how long it took KWA to come out with OEM low power bolts for their previous SMGs Link to post Share on other sites
DangerWerx Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Haha, Can't hurt to ask. I was just expressing that... If you rate the KJW 10/22's felt recoil as the standard for a .22 caliber on the low side, then you have a more realistic ratio to work with. Then the mp7 and mp9 seem a bit more appropriate and the M4's/AK's are then lacking. Back to the Kriss. I wonder if the there is recoil, but because the way the engine is designed, we'll feel a downward tug vs the traditional linear recoil of gbb's. Probably doesn't translate well on a video. Being that there is a stock and Allizard is seen using a vert grip, much of the recoil is possibly mitigated? Link to post Share on other sites
Sallinen Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 I hope they make the bolt light enough to have better gas efficiency. Since it doesnt doesnt recoil anyways, why have extra weight moving around and screwing its usability ^^ If Ill get work for summer, Ill get one and start converting it to HPA ^^ Link to post Share on other sites
greatwatermelon Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Looks good, still not entirely convinced this isn't another fake version ###### take though Understandable after the media stunt that Evike pulled. However, KWA Central actually did have the exclusives for the video, on the Kriss Vector by KWA... Here's some pictures to convince you. Link to post Share on other sites
wazzy1013 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 well ive been wanting to get a tm 1911 plus metal kit; but i think that money is gana be going to this beauty instead ...i just kinda hope the mags hold 50-100bb's and i wonder if there will be a proprietary suppressor or if can use any that are on the current market; as the barrel seems kinda small Link to post Share on other sites
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