uscmCorps Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Well no one has complained about the other manuals I've written for them so far. There are a few things that come up after the gun's released that I/we can't anticipate, or they may forget to tell me, but that's rare. Link to post Share on other sites
Mrfoss Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 That's to bad, its always more fun when the manual is google translated into English To me the perfect release is end of February. Need to get a UK Defence before i can buy anything. Link to post Share on other sites
Baddbaz Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Still want to see the old classic tm manuals pictures and mess ups , maybe I just miss stick men .. The best was ; if gun jam bang against tree ; with a picture of a tree and a stick man doing it !!! Link to post Share on other sites
swatti Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 So, still no offical release-date? Fast look thru some 'big names' and none take pre-orders. Link to post Share on other sites
Baddbaz Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Landwarrior are taking pre orders at 319 quid !!! Link to post Share on other sites
Rob15 Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Also on pre-order at JD Airsoft. http://www.jdairsoft.net/product/b527c0fc-3d26-4c06-a52e-fddfb4890284.aspx Link to post Share on other sites
swatti Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Wasnt it supposed to be around 350 dollars? Not sure what rate pounds go but doesnt those prices put it up to 400+ The "value-added-tax" in the country i live in just got a raise, again so im trying to aim for cheapest i can find. VAT, customs and shipping+vat will hurt my poor old wallet a lot just for a toy gun. Link to post Share on other sites
Baddbaz Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Not even considering parting with my hard earned till I see the internals/ quality of this gun For that sort of money it needs to be high , I only paid £ 340 for my real sword 97b and that is top notch internally and externally !! Link to post Share on other sites
TheFull9 Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Wasnt it supposed to be around 350 dollars? Not sure what rate pounds go but doesnt those prices put it up to 400+ I'm sure it'll be around the expected price in HK stores, but by the time UK retailers have shipped it over here, paid whatever taxes they have to, incurred the costs of stocking the product in their store then actually factored in some profit for themselves, the price ends up being very different. £350 is about $560. Link to post Share on other sites
swatti Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 :: Major OT and rant incoming, :: please disregard if only interested in the gun. Its not the money, its where its going. Looking in my garage, i can say i can afford it. Local coverment decided to cut the support of single parents, war-vets and those looking after sick relatives at home while increasing the allready massive VAT and soon after their own salaries that now go up to 15k € a month in avarage plus travel fees, cost coverage and often classified 'expenses-account' Considoring most of this tax-money goes to salaries of ppl making desisions like these i will do any and all in my power to pay these filth as little as possible. If i didnt have over 50 ppl working for me including multible single parents whose childs daycare i now pay on top of their salaries just so they can feed their kids and live well i would have ditched this country a long time ago... Call me cheap or whatever as a toy-gun hardly adds up the big picture but even so. :: RANT ENDS :: That said, im hoping to see these in HK-shops soon with those nice hk-pricetags. Theres allways a bit of room to "negotiate" in local customs office and ever since half of them got fired they are happy too see the mountain of packages get one smaller and move on to more important stuff. Link to post Share on other sites
IBMedic Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Yesterday I have about 10 glorious minutes of hands on time to lovingly and thoroughly fondle my PDR, yes MY PDR LOL. The rifle was rather sticky after being returned to the rack.OK for some points:You CAN mount any 14mm- muzzle device except a silencer (unless it's one of those super thin silencers). With an AAC or other type flash hider that then takes a QD suppressor, you will NOT be able to mount the QD suppressor. You will have ot use an outer barrel extension.The trigger is smooth as Kim Kardashian's rear "trunk". Length of travel is relatively short and there's rather long amount of travel before it goes full auto. So it's unlike you will be surprised by the full auto coming on.Rifle is VERY solid. Despite the small number of locking pins between the lower and upper receivers, the tight tolerances and ridgidty of the PTS polymer makes it like a brick. No play whatsoever.The mag release has a bit of slop and mushyness to it. Unavoidable I think.Thanks to the opening for the charging handle, you will be able to run a wire through the gap and connect it to an external battery if need be. Speaking of wiring, it's thick 16 gauge on the gearbox, yay.My only real gripe is the short length of pull and the super short pistol grip. My pinky almost has no space. It was clearly designed for users smaller than myself haha Link to post Share on other sites
swatti Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 That extended grip seems like a must, not just for the battery-space but making the gun look more balanced with a long mag. So no offical word on the grip, when or even if it will ever come? Aaaaand i'd like to know when gun comes too Link to post Share on other sites
Warning Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Yesterday I have about 10 glorious minutes of hands on time to lovingly and thoroughly fondle my PDR, yes MY PDR LOL. The rifle was rather sticky after being returned to the rack. OK for some points: You CAN mount any 14mm- muzzle device except a silencer (unless it's one of those super thin silencers). With an AAC or other type flash hider that then takes a QD suppressor, you will NOT be able to mount the QD suppressor. You will have ot use an outer barrel extension. The trigger is smooth as Kim Kardashian's rear "trunk". Length of travel is relatively short and there's rather long amount of travel before it goes full auto. So it's unlike you will be surprised by the full auto coming on. Rifle is VERY solid. Despite the small number of locking pins between the lower and upper receivers, the tight tolerances and ridgidty of the PTS polymer makes it like a brick. No play whatsoever. The mag release has a bit of slop and mushyness to it. Unavoidable I think. Thanks to the opening for the charging handle, you will be able to run a wire through the gap and connect it to an external battery if need be. Speaking of wiring, it's thick 16 gauge on the gearbox, yay. My only real gripe is the short length of pull and the super short pistol grip. My pinky almost has no space. It was clearly designed for users smaller than myself haha any chance to have a look at the gearbox? Link to post Share on other sites
Phubar Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 any chance to have a look at the gearbox? +1. I'm sorely tempted to preorder this with LWA but the lack of any info regarding the internals is holding me back. Link to post Share on other sites
Baddbaz Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 +2 on the gearbox , / internals Won't even consider buying till I know what's inside it .. Maybe its just me , but I would of thought that if the internals are good quality a manufacturer would shout about them ! Link to post Share on other sites
bankz5152 Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Heres still hoping for a GBBR version Link to post Share on other sites
Horsem4n Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 the still isnt a manufacturer backing the ACR. you wont see anybody claiming they are the OEM for these things. Link to post Share on other sites
Manxmadman Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Well by the looks of it PTS are finally gearing up to send out the first batch at the end of January (although I'll believe that when mine turns up at my door from Land warrior) Link to post Share on other sites
Deadmeat Posted January 25, 2013 Report Share Posted January 25, 2013 Well by the looks of it PTS are finally gearing up to send out the first batch at the end of January (although I'll believe that when mine turns up at my door from Land warrior) This f'book post might cheer you up!!?? (Every day, it gets a little bit closer!!) http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=494528120598535&set=a.177468215637862.51866.176332535751430&type=1&theater Link to post Share on other sites
Leatherneck Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 What are these going to be on sale?? Link to post Share on other sites
Deadmeat Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 New photo's up on PTS Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=497036097014404&set=a.177468215637862.51866.176332535751430&type=1&theater Sounds like it is finally being released in Feb!! (but only in certain countries!!) Link to post Share on other sites
Baddbaz Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Ares designed gearbox ... Masada box with revisions as stated by PTs comment on Facebook So micro switch trigger woes again No more ares rubbish for me , gonna give this gun a miss methinx Tavor = ares = fail Afv = ares = fail Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 I'm sorry, where exactly did PTS state that Ares designed the gearbox? Because this is news to me. And I've personally been to the OEM. And I know who it is and who it isn't. And Ares definitely falls under the latter of the two. Link to post Share on other sites
Baddbaz Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Maybe I'm wrong , please correct me if so , but the magpul Masada box is ares designed ? And the reply they gave me was that the pdr is using a Masada box with revisions .... Link to post Share on other sites
uscmCorps Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 PTS has not now, nor ever, in the past used Ares as an OEM for any Masada, PDR or other PTS products. PTS has never stated as such either. This is simply popular opinion of various vocal individuals across various different public forums. And quite frankly I'm tired of the misinformation. As you've shown by your own statements, the opinion of these individuals has now been interpreted as fact, when in fact they have nothing more to back up their beyond the fact that the internals are extremely reminiscent of what others have seen come from the likes of Star, Ares and a couple other manufacturers. Yes, the "evidence" is compelling. I won't argue with that. And not knowing what I now know, I at one point felt there was strong validity to this popular belief. But then I saw who was actually involved, who was OEM'ing the items, and then I knew it was not in fact Ares. People will believe what they want. And when I have the energy to dispute it, I will, but to be quite honest, I generally could give a *fruitcage* anymore. * Edited for clarity Link to post Share on other sites
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